iPhone 8 May Include Facial and Gesture Recognition

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    The next-generation iPhone 8, set to debut this September, could include facial or gesture recognition technology, according to Cowen and Company analyst Timothy Arcuri (via AppleInsider). The facial recognition capabilities could be powered by a laser sensor and an infrared sensor located near the front-facing camera.

    We've previously heard rumors suggesting the iPhone 8 could include advanced biometric features like facial recognition or iris scanning, both from KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chu Kuo and from details sourced from the Asian supply chain.

    With facial recognition, Apple could replace the Touch ID fingerprint sensor in the iPhone or augment its functionality with a two-factor verification system for sensitive information. In this scenario, unlocking the iPhone would require users to scan their faces, something that would increase security on iOS devices.


    Facial recognition could also power other features on the phone, like augmented reality camera functions, and while gesture recognition is a new rumor, it could allow users to control their devices with simple gestures for doing things like turning volume up or down.

    Capabilities like gesture control and facial recognition are also some of the first steps towards a rich augmented reality experience, something Apple is rumored to be working on.

    Arcuri also reiterates several rumors we've previously heard. He believes Apple will launch a total of three iPhones, the standard 4.7 and 5.5-inch models and a new higher-end 5.8-inch iPhone with an OLED display.

    The 5.8-inch iPhone, he says, will feature a wraparound display and a Touch ID fingerprint sensor that is located under the glass, a technology Apple has been pursuing for some time. Wireless charging, a much-rumored and highly desired feature, is also expected.

    Today's report from Timothy Arcuri covers many rumors that have been circulating for a few months, which is similar to much of the information that comes from the analyst. Cowen and Company has something of a mixed track record, but accurately predicted some iPhone 7 features.

    Article Link: iPhone 8 May Include Facial and Gesture Recognition
  2. AngerDanger, Jan 18, 2017
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2017

    AngerDanger macrumors 601


    Dec 9, 2008
    I sincerely hope Apple is working on improving its facial recognition algorithms. The ones iOS currently uses are… lacking.

  3. usersince86 macrumors 6502


    Oct 24, 2002
    Columbus, Ohio
    I have a face for radio. Maybe the iPhone won't hold that against me. :D

    Seriously, if this works as well as touch ID, it would be pretty cool.
  4. DrumApple macrumors 6502a

    Jan 30, 2009
    Would be a bad move IMO.

    Do you know how many times a day I have to unlock my phone? Can't imagine all the extra camera activations would be good for battery life. All this crap is just as useless as Siri. They should focus their efforts on improving features most people use.
  5. Jal217 macrumors regular


    Oct 28, 2015
    IF the iPhone 8 has any of these features that would be cool. Can't wait to see them the year after the iPhone 7s!
  6. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    "according to Cowen and Company analyst Timothy Arcuri"

    And he's basing this on???
  7. JM macrumors 6502a


    Nov 23, 2014
    No no. You're forgetting the magical new battery life to compensate.
  8. rudychidiac Suspended


    May 2, 2012
    What for? I think it's more of a gimmick rather than a useful feature.
  9. Jbusick7944 macrumors regular

    Oct 8, 2008
    I like being able to unlock my phone while laying on the desk by lazily laying a finger on it.
  10. BasicGreatGuy, Jan 18, 2017
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2017

    BasicGreatGuy Contributor


    Sep 21, 2012
    In the middle of several books.
    Why not just start off every rumor story (read: meaningless information at this point) with 'may include the kitchen sink'.

    As to facial or gesture ID potential, if such were to come to fruition and it worked as well as Touch ID on a regular basis, I would definitely try it out.
  11. yaxomoxay macrumors 68040


    Mar 3, 2010
    This would feel big brotherish... especially when someone (*) is browsing questionable websites...

    *= obviously not me!
  12. iDento macrumors 6502


    Sep 8, 2011
    iCloud Servers
    1. If they'll release a high end 5.8' model, it won't just need better hardware, the product life should be longer, like if they'll release iOS 11,12,13 and 14 updates for the other models, the high end one should support at least 15 & 16 too.

    2. Facial recognition can be useful, AR needs Apple, not the other way around.
  13. gtgrad95 macrumors 6502

    May 15, 2007
    Atlanta, GA.
    The iPhone 7 'upgrade' has gotta be the biggest underwhelming change in the the history of the iPhone (outside of S releases).

    Glad I stuck with the 6. The 8 looks like it will be revolutionary. Give me wireless charging and bezel free OLED display and I'll be happy.
  14. macduke macrumors G4


    Jun 27, 2007
    Central U.S.
    Facial recognition in augmented reality? Sounds creepy and inevitable. I like my anonymity in public. I don't want my full social media history to show up when someone sees my face. I imagine this would make life even worse for ex-cons as well. It could pull up all kinds of information. Fortunately for me, I have a somewhat limited social media presence after I shuttered my FaceBook in 2010.
  15. AngerDanger macrumors 601


    Dec 9, 2008
    This is where the ol' fursuit comes in handy.

    *would come in handy. Hypothetically.
  16. paradox00 macrumors 65816

    Sep 29, 2009
    Facial recognition as a replacement for Touch ID would be a terrible idea. You wouldn't be able to unlock your phone with it resting flat on a table without picking it up or awkwardly hovering over it (or entering a passcode of course).

    The field of view on the screen is 180 degrees but the camera only sees a fraction of that.
  17. MentalFloss macrumors 65816


    Mar 14, 2012
    My assumption is still that it will be a completely seamless, buttonless and connectorless slab of glass. Facial recognition would explain how they get around the need for a home button. When you lift the phone up and it sees your face, the display comes on, and the phone is unlocked automatically when you are recognized.
  18. McCool71 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 16, 2012
    Just like the Galaxy S5 back in 2014.

    You need other unlock options as well though, lots of people use their phones without picking them up from their desk. Having to 'aim' the front of the phone towards your face to unlock would be a major inconvenience.
  19. 1bcoolrob macrumors newbie


    Apr 12, 2014
    new orleans
  20. soanis macrumors regular


    Apr 15, 2013
    could it be 7s, 7s+ and big-ass edge2edge 8 this year?
  21. HiRez macrumors 603


    Jan 6, 2004
    Western US
    All we need now is for this phone to make perfectly browned toast as well and I'm in.
  22. BvizioN macrumors 601


    Mar 16, 2012
    Manchester, UK
    No just that On dark environments as well, When I get my iPhone from my pockets is well unlocked before it even gets out because of the touch ID. With face recognition you have to keep it like an idiot on the front of your face to be unlocked.
    That being said, can't see Apple replacing touch ID with anything else. They may add extra features but not remove one of the best.
  23. Amacfa macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2009
    My 7 plus pictures blow my 6s out of the water. For me it was as big (if not bigger) than the jump to 6->6s
  24. Apple 26.2 macrumors 6502a

    Apple 26.2

    Jan 1, 2011
    What up, 212?!
    I really don't want a nearly 6" phone, but OLED will sway me. Ugh.
  25. farewelwilliams macrumors 68020

    Jun 18, 2014
    there are some applications for this. some parts of an app could have sensitive information but others can be viewed publicly. for example, maybe there's a photo album that you don't want others to see (PORN?) but you don't mind handing someone else the device to look at other photos. Or if someone launches your Safari browser, all private tabs (PORN?) are blurred out until your face is detected or when you return back to non-private mode.

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