Oh I meant the NFC standard in general, transport NFC cards, reading NFC tags on the trains here in the UK, magazine advert tag NFC, etc. Pairing phones via NFC by tapping, or NFC printer pairing etc.
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iPhone 8 May Use Apple's In-House Inductive Wireless Charging Rather Than Technology From Energous
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Oh I meant the NFC standard in general, transport NFC cards, reading NFC tags on the trains here in the UK, magazine advert tag NFC, etc. Pairing phones via NFC by tapping, or NFC printer pairing etc.
OLED? Apple Watch says you're wrong. NFC? What are you talking about. Apple hasn't done anything to NFC. Fingerprint sensor? Nobody was getting it right... riiiiiight. Let's just say you're right about that. It still has nothing to do with falainber's quote, which was a reply to keysofanxiety stating: No way they'll happily wait for somebody else to invent this technology, which everybody else can use, and then decide to use it.
When the Watch first came out, weren't there a bunch of reports saying it could be charged with Qi pads?
The Watch's wireless charging is there, I think, partly to help make the device waterproof - one less hole to plug. But for a decent wireless charge solution, you need at least a one-meter range. Charger on the nightstand tops off your watch while you wear it sleeping and your phone and pad as well, charger on the desk tops them off as you work, etc. You never have to think about it after that.
The Watch's wireless charging is there, I think, partly to help make the device waterproof - one less hole to plug. But for a decent wireless charge solution, you need at least a one-meter range. Charger on the nightstand tops off your watch while you wear it sleeping and your phone and pad as well, charger on the desk tops them off as you work, etc. You never have to think about it after that.
Oh, you mean like exactly what you can do with bluetooth proximity right? Does the same thing, even the tapping part. Except it takes things a step further. As far as the rest, pretty sure it's about as popular/useful as QR tags.
Apple has done nothing with NFC? Interesting, because Apple Pay has forced everyone in the industry into the payment processing business - all by figuring out the steps to adoption, that being making it more secure and enticing for both consumers and banks. Getting fingerprint sensor right involved no swiping and making it convenient, while also not storing your fingerprint data in an open text file. Oh, and putting it in hardware that isn't fragmented by throwing stuff at the wall. You are aware that you can count on one finger the number of phones that had a fingerprint sensor before the iPhone, right? And that the phone flopped?
Well aware that OLED is in the watch, even as I typed that, I was referring to the phone.
The context of the original quote wasn't lost. Apple's already got this technology in house, you're going to have a hard time finding an example you can even compare. This would be like them waiting for someone else to invent liquid metal before they use it - not that I think that it's anything to write home about anyway.
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It is, most assuredly, NFC...which is why it works with NFC terminals.
Oh apple pay is nfc of course but it's the only bit of NFC apple uses, that's all I was meaning
Otherwise the app store would be filled with millions of NFC apps using the chip
Hear hear!
The ONLY way I could conceive of a wireless mat product sold by Apple, is if it has a 1 meter+ charge radius around it.
Because its an embarrassing joke of a "standard".another standard..
apple - why dont you make it compatible with QI
Qi (pronounced CHEE; IPA: /tʃiː/, meaning "natural energy") is an open interface standard developed by the Wireless Power Consortium
Yes, they use Bluetooth, but it doesn't discount the fact that the W1 brings a significant advantage in range, battery life, and convenience. The ability to seamlessly pair across multiple devices and switch between them on the fly is far superior to the current method of switching devices between shared Bluetooth headphones.
Apple WILL NOT be using a routine inductive tech in the iPhone 8. That tech has been out for years and is boring and not very useful. Apple will incorporate a true wireless charging solution, with little charging pods that can radiate power up to 15 feet. Anybody thinking Apple is going to go inductive is truly clueless.
I'm honestly okay if Apple doesn't add long-range wireless charging in the next iPhone. To be honest the idea of that technology has given me the creeps from the beginning. I really don't think that we know the real-world health implications of transferring electric energy wirelessly yet.
And believe me I'm not one of those "cell phones gives you brain tumors" kind of guys.
And believe me I'm not one of those "cell phones gives you brain tumors" kind of guys.
Placing it down on a pad is fine b me. Obviously charging wirelessly from a distance is superior, but I honestly couldnt complain with this eaiter. Make some docks for the car, maybe a stand for my desk/nightstand, and I am good to go. I already charge my apple watch daily this way and it is much more convenient than plugging something in.
That said I do hope a proproetary standard does give us some tangible benefit. This is obviously super early to make juedgements, but on the surface it doesn't seem meaurable beter than anything else. Maybe it is able to charge faster? More efficiently? Both?
I am just a fan of universal standards. Having to buy all new products to work with one device versus another isn't a consumer friendly move, in my eyes. Here's to hoping for potential cross compatibility.
That said I do hope a proproetary standard does give us some tangible benefit. This is obviously super early to make juedgements, but on the surface it doesn't seem meaurable beter than anything else. Maybe it is able to charge faster? More efficiently? Both?
I am just a fan of universal standards. Having to buy all new products to work with one device versus another isn't a consumer friendly move, in my eyes. Here's to hoping for potential cross compatibility.
Or maybe it'll charge the user when his/her palms are resting on the MacBook. Sometimes coffee just doesn't cut it.
There is nothing about inductive charging that makes it better than wired charging. That means you won't be able to pick up your phone while it's charging unless you pick up the charging dock/pad as well. I never will understand this.
If your argument is that it's much easier to just drop the phone on a pad rather than sticking the charger into the phone, give me a break. You're talking a second or two at most.
If your argument is that it's much easier to just drop the phone on a pad rather than sticking the charger into the phone, give me a break. You're talking a second or two at most.
Nobody should be using a "spinning hard drive" in a pro-level machine... and you couldn't fit one in any currently shipping Apple portable anyway.
This is not to say; however, that Apple's pricing on SSDs is on par with the rest of the industry. You definitely pay a premium.
One benefit is no lightning cables to wear and break. Lightning charging as an additional way to charge with a separately-sold wireless charging base would be pretty handy if it charged within a single room, for example. I still have my doubts that such tech is mature enough to be ready for prime time yet however. And obviously overtime it's easy to envision a future with wireless charging with WiFi-range where everything in your home could be wireless and your mobile device would "buzz-buzz" as soon as you come near the house or office.
Nice try. No where in my quote did I say Apple did nothing with NFC. Of course they did. They used it to power Apple Pay. I asked what did Apple do to NFC? You know, like improving it or something of that nature. As to what else they did with it? Well, along with using it to power Apple Pay they restricted it's use in iOS. Limiting it's capacity across the ecosystem. That's something they did with it. <--- Some would classify that as something they did to it as well.
No I am actually not aware of the ability to count the number of pre-iPhone phones with a fp sensor on one finger. Are you referring to the Toshiba G500 or the G900? No, no wait. You're referring to the HTC P6500 right? No? Then I'm guessing you meant the Atrix. But it's still gonna be pretty hard to count those on that single finger.
It's not that hard to be thought of as innovative when you buy Authentec, cancel their contracts with other companies, and use their tech exclusively. Just sayin'.
And in the MBP too.
So yeah, it's coming to the phone as well.So if it wasn't lost, how did you start quoting off topic? Was it intentional to change the narrative? 'Cause nothing in the original quote was untrue as it related to Key's post.
They make many different kinds of qi compatible batteries that you can carry with you which makes it convenient and mobile, some of those chargers also support rapid charging so they are as fast as wired charging. If you followed closely with the true wireless charging you would have noticed that the signal doesn't pass through skin which means you wouldn't be using the phone while it's charging also energous is more than a little sketchy about the numbers and how fast and how far away you can be from the transmitter. My money would be on very small devices using that type of charging, like hearing aids etc.