If AirPods will be included, does this mean that the iPhone 8 will be on a six week back order months after launch?
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iPhone 8 Said to Have Enhanced Earpiece With Further Improvements to Stereo Sound and Waterproofing
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It'd only make sense to package AirPods with an iPhone if sales were bad and no one was paying $160 for them.
All our guesses is that this isn't the case so why would Apple do this?
All our guesses is that this isn't the case so why would Apple do this?
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Touch ID on the back would be a little cumbersome. For one thing, it would necessitate the use of the index finger rather than the thumb and also you would have to feel where it is in order to place your finger on the sensor since it will not be directly visible. Another negative aspect of it would be the necessity of putting a hole on every iPhone 8 case, which would make the touch ID recessed further and make it even more cumbersome to use. A less than ideal solution so to speak.
I doubt that AirPods, a $160 item, will be a free accessory to the iPhone 8. That would reduce the gross profit margin of both the iPhone and the AirPods.
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I doubt that AirPods, a $160 item, will be a free accessory to the iPhone 8. That would reduce the gross profit margin of both the iPhone and the AirPods.
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At first I also thought that the AirPods were outrageously priced. However, after comparing the prices of the similar quality BT headphones, and owning a pair, I changed my opinion.
If production gets more expensive you will definitely pay for that. And if they include AirPods you will also pay the full price.
Let's say 969 USD for the 7 Plus is the entry 8 with 32gb -> 1069 USD for 128gb -> 1199 USD with AirPods! They would have to sell this in Europe for about 1350-1400 Euros.
No one will buy this!
And who needs new AirPods every year?! I don't want to pay for that.
I could see Apple selling the iPhone without headphones to keep prices low!
999 without headphones feels cheaper
Let's say 969 USD for the 7 Plus is the entry 8 with 32gb -> 1069 USD for 128gb -> 1199 USD with AirPods! They would have to sell this in Europe for about 1350-1400 Euros.
No one will buy this!
And who needs new AirPods every year?! I don't want to pay for that.
I could see Apple selling the iPhone without headphones to keep prices low!
999 without headphones feels cheaper
I agree. I for one have a pair of Bluetooth earphones that I am more than happy with and are much better for my uses than what the AirPods would be.
If Apple did include the AirPods with the iPhone 8. I would immediately put them on eBay to try and recoup some of the extra cost that I'd paid for the iPhone 8
Maybe it'll be free AirPods to cushion the blow of fingerprint scanner on the back. lol
I kid. Anyway... do you know what else you can hear in stereo? The already available FM tuner in your iPhone that Apple, carriers selfishly refuse to unlock. It's all about the coin. I wouldn't put it past Apple to put the scanner on the back this year, move it to under the glass in the front in 2018 & then claim in 2018 waterproofing. I think they're that shady!
I kid. Anyway... do you know what else you can hear in stereo? The already available FM tuner in your iPhone that Apple, carriers selfishly refuse to unlock. It's all about the coin. I wouldn't put it past Apple to put the scanner on the back this year, move it to under the glass in the front in 2018 & then claim in 2018 waterproofing. I think they're that shady!
Waterproof earpieces with better sound? Well,guess Apple will ship the phone with the waterproof earpieces from the now long obsolete Sony Walkman sports. For you that's not old enough,that's a late 1970s and early 1980s yellow cassette player,with waterproof shell and earphones. Soo,waterproof headphones is not a new thing,we had those back then,and from my own experiences,when comparing my old Sony phones with the earbuds shipped with my iPhone 6,the earbuds are awful,with crappy sound.
A question: Has anyone here ever heard the word receiver used for the earpiece? It sound totally strange for me and I can't find a dictionary entry that backs it up either...
Actually, you're probably too young to remember when a phone had two parts. The base, with its rotary dial (then eventually touch tone) and the wired "receiver." It was not unusual to say to someone "give me the receiver."
It seems odd now that it is AIO, but that's likely why they still use that terminology.
Yes, wall street will expect that.
My guess for 2017:
-iphone 8/x/edition will be very limited in supply, will launch somewhere in october with just a few launch countries, supply and demand will be in balance around march 2018.
-in 2018 apple will release a new iphone that is based on the iphone 8/x/edition, and will launch a plus version(will sell like hot cakes)
-in 2018 apple will launch new iphone se' s(including a plus version for the chinese/indian market) that has the same new aspect ratio lcd screens(touchid on the back though)
-2019/2020 apple will launch an iphone with true wireless (longer distance) charging, and a new design and microled screens.
-2019/2020 apple launches ar glasses.
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I upgraded two months ago to the iPhone 6s Plus, since I could not pay the price for the 7, at least not for a reasonable amount of RAM.
If I had to upgrade next year, which will not happen unless I hit the jackpot, without playing, I would do it to the 7, which would be a bit less expensive by then.
I agree with you that upgrading phones each year is insane, especially at the prices they currently have. I also feel that manufacturers leave intentionally out many features that would be useful, only to sell a new phone next year. It's hard for me to imagine the difference in performance between the A7 and A9 chips was not because of this. Not really affecting much how the devices work though but again it's a "feature" helping them sell again.
I also understand that they need to keep selling, especially if other manufacturers upgrade their phones that often, but the market is focusing more and more in aesthetics that in usefulness. Do we really need a phone with no bezels or all wrapped in glass with a 4 additional megapixels camera? Isn't more useful double the storage and RAM in perhaps the same phone? A more efficient battery? Why not adding some improvements in software like being able to customize 3D Touch to be more productive? There could be a way they could make reasonable money with software, maybe in the form of an app?
I know there are no easy answers, but we consumers are not helping either when we behave like sheeps.
Thx for explaining. I do know these old phones (after all I'm 42) but I never learned that the german Hörer (listener) was receiver in english.
I do hope they don't include the AirPods. The phone will be expensive enough as it is, I don't want the additional price hike for something I will throw into garbage right from the box.
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Whether they include them or not, you are paying for them in the price. They don't just throw them in for free. Without the addition of those useless toys the price of the actual phone would be lower than it would be if they are part of the package. Apple isn't stupid even though it seems to try to make us think so every so often.
Should they include it there's less incentive for me to pay the price for the phone - I don't have any use for AirPods. I've tried them and I can't justify paying that much for mediocre sound quality and low battery life. They're small, that's one thing going for them. Then again, the Anker Soundbuds aren't much bigger and cost 1/5 of their price. And provide just as mediocre sound quality which I still can live with in gym. AirPods is a true fanboy item.
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Whether they include them or not, you are paying for them in the price. They don't just throw them in for free. Without the addition of those useless toys the price of the actual phone would be lower than it would be if they are part of the package. Apple isn't stupid even though it seems to try to make us think so every so often.
Should they include it there's less incentive for me to pay the price for the phone - I don't have any use for AirPods. I've tried them and I can't justify paying that much for mediocre sound quality and low battery life. They're small, that's one thing going for them. Then again, the Anker Soundbuds aren't much bigger and cost 1/5 of their price. And provide just as mediocre sound quality which I still can live with in gym. AirPods is a true fanboy item.
This all sounds good to me. You have to welcome any incremental improvements now the smartphone tech is so mature.
Wall Street expects tens of millions to upgrade, but not all from the iPhone 7. I'll be trading in my iPhone 6.
Years ago, before you or I were born, automobile makers added "features" to cars each year to entice owners to upgrade. This isn't new behavior, and consumers were not necessarily smarter back then. We did fall for chlorophyll, mood rings, and other silly fads.
Of course your paying for them in the price and it's definitely an insentive to buy the Edition. AirPods aren't a fanboy item, they are for the majority of iPhone buyers but clearly not audiophiles or somebody that cares that much if their sound isn't perfect. I think you may fit into that category but that doesn't mean everybody does.
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I'm not wrong, I said they are considering including them, NOT that they will.
Does that mean they will? I don't know what their decision is, or even if they've made a decision, I just know, as a fact, that they have been seriously considering it for the Edition.
They are relatively low cost to manufacture, it's around the retail price of EarPods. Or course that's a lot in terms of iPhoen costs but they are able to include them. I don't think they would mind driving up the price a bit in order to reduce demand slightly, although the short supply of AirPods would impact the iPhone availability.
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No much meat on the bones of this rumor. This just in: Apple to improve iPhone in next iteration. No sources cited, but is reasonable to expect...
AirPods will not be included. Not a chance - unless the premium version/edition has a special version of the AirPods that can't be purchased, like black ones? And if they are included, the premium cost of that version will be dauntingly expensive.
As an aside, I own a pair of AirPods, and am more than delighted with them - with the biggest drawback being volume control.
AirPods will not be included. Not a chance - unless the premium version/edition has a special version of the AirPods that can't be purchased, like black ones? And if they are included, the premium cost of that version will be dauntingly expensive.
As an aside, I own a pair of AirPods, and am more than delighted with them - with the biggest drawback being volume control.
If Apple had left the phone jack on the phones, couldn't all of this engineering/marketing of wireless/lightning/dongle business have been put into more useful stuff that didn't seem to be compensating for reinvention of the wheel? Especially when the wheel was perfectly fine for its intention: output to high quality headphones and/or speakers? So far all of this stuff has mainly contributed to less sound quality and higher prices for both the phone and the wireless speaker systems. Anyway, a dead horse generally stays dead.