iPhone 8 Said to Have Enhanced Earpiece With Further Improvements to Stereo Sound and Waterproofing

[darcyf]

If Apple does charge more than $1000 for the coming iPhone, will Wall Street still expect those tens of millions of iPhone purchasers to upgrade to a newer iPhone the following year? And if they don't, will analysts still claim it's due to Apple being unable to innovate? Why doesn't the same logic apply to toasters and microwave ovens? Use them a year and then upgrade to new ones. I honestly don't know when this requirement to upgrade products on a yearly basis started. When I was growing up 50 some odd years ago, I'm sure products tended to last a lot longer (many years) and we were quite happy to have a product last a long time. Why has that attitude changed so much? One would think with so much talk about dwindling resources consumers would be a lot smarter than to simply stop using perfectly working products just to buy slightly newer ones. I really don't understand this type of behavior.

Agreed. Happily typing this from an iPhone 5s, because it's a great phone and I continue to get amazing value from it.

For me, it's not a matter of whether or not Apple can produce another iPhone good enough to seduce me into buying it -- I'll buy a new iPhone when this iPhone is no longer of use to me. Which will most likely mean that it stopped working all together or Apple nag-forced an iOS upgrade on it that crippled its performance to the point of constant frustration, like they did to the iPhone 4. But for now it's an iPhone that works like a charm.

Upgrading your iPhone every year is nothing to be proud of.

 

[zen]

These are all features the iPhone has needed for a couple of years now. But it's too late - if it doesn't have a headphone jack, I'm not interested.

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

You mean they'll make incremental improvements in various parts of the phone, just as they have for 10 years? No way.

 

[SeattleMoose]

Instead of making tinky speakers trying to sound better, how about putting in a headphone jack so you can hook up to REAL speakers or 99% of the headphones in the world? I know, I know....major R&D and stuff. Just sayin...

 

[44267547]

This all sounds good to me. You have to welcome any incremental improvements now the smartphone tech is so mature.

This. Smart phones don't make drastic improvements every single year. It's incremental improvements to build up over time of allowing the phone to mature. Also phones don't have complete physical overhaul designs of the chassis from year-to-year, which I see a lot of forum members continue to keep believing that phones should have complete overhaul's every 12 months, When it doesn't work like that.

 

[djcerla]

There will not be any shortage if Touch ID is on the back. The silver lining of Touch ID on the back is Apple will finally replace senior management.

Funny how Samsung did not replace any management for that very reason, but instead made record S8 preorders.

 

[Azzin]

I wonder if the reason that AirPods are in such short supply, is that they're being stockpiled for release with the iPhone 8?

 

[44267547]

I wonder if the reason that AirPods are in such short supply, is that they're being stockpiled for release with the iPhone 8?

Why would Apple be making a stock pile with the iPhone 8? The goal is to sell them, not keep reserves laying around. (Unless they would be bundled with the iPhone 8, which is highly unlikely) The Airpods have been in short supply since December when they first launched. When stores receive them in stock, they sell out of them almost immediately and there is still a 4-6 week back order.

 

[Azzin]

Why would Apple be making a stock pile with the iPhone 8? The goal is to sell them, not keep reserves laying around. (Unless they would be bundled with the iPhone 8, which is highly unlikely) The Airpods have been in short supply since December when they first launched. When stores receive them in stock, they sell out of them almost immediately and there is still a 4-6 week back order.

I was referring to the shortages and offering a possible answer in relation to why, after a few peeps said they thought Apple might bundle them.

I don't think they ever would FWIW.

 

[vrBrew]

thats a little too pricey for me.

 

[ApfelKuchen]

Thx for explaining. I do know these old phones (after all I'm 42) but I never learned that the german Hörer (listener) was receiver in english.

Receiver goes back to the earliest days of the telephone, when mouthpiece and receiver were not yet combined into an integrated handset. "Earpiece" has also been in use for most of those years, and logically, it pairs better with mouthpiece. Receiver would pair better with "sender." "Speaker" would have been far more confusing, back in those days - shouldn't that be the part into which you speak? But that's English for you!

 

[Tom-Helge]

Instead of making tinky speakers trying to sound better, how about putting in a headphone jack so you can hook up to REAL speakers or 99% of the headphones in the world? I know, I know....major R&D and stuff. Just sayin...

Well, i'm just posting this video to your post here :-D .

So if Apple is smart, they will bring back the headphone jack, because Samsung and many others are going make fun of Apple every year they refuse to use something that is extremely widely used by everyone.

 

[Luap]

But will it be thinner and come with exclusive iPhone 8 Emojis? Maybe it will even have NightShift II?? I can't hardly wait..

 

[BSben]

Well, i'm just posting this video to your post here .

So if Apple is smart, they will bring back the headphone jack, because Samsung and many others are going make fun of Apple every year they refuse to use something that is extremely widely used by everyone.

My iPhone still has a headphone jack, unused since December when I went wireless.

 

[Tom-Helge]

My iPhone still has a headphone jack, unused since December when I went wireless.

Tried to use wireless sound / Bluetooth on a long plane flight?

Good luck with that.

And Bluetooth will never be a replacement for wired sound because of sound quality.

 

[ValO]

The headphone jack, won't come back. People deal with. Use the adapter, get lightning or bluetooth headphones , or get an android, which, in a few years will also get rid of the headphone jack.
But don' t think for one second that apple will change it, by repeating it on a forum.

 

[Tom-Helge]

The headphone jack, won't come back. People deal with. Use the adapter, get lightning or bluetooth headphones , or get an android, which, in a few years will also get rid of the headphone jack.
But don' t think for one second that apple will change it, by repeating it on a forum.

No one asked for an adapter to come back that was in the first place a MUCH hated thing back in the early 2000 days that no one wants back, EVER. It's a reason they died out. And it would also be a good start for Apple to go over to USB Type-C over using a proprietary connector that is no where to be defined as a standard.

This is not about making peoples getting an Android phone or whatever, but rather giving peoples more choices within the iOS world. Isn't that just a good thing?

 

[pratikindia]

The iPhone 8 is rumored to be expensive at around 1000+ USD. SO Apple may include AirPods for free.
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This is not about making peoples getting an Android phone or whatever, but rather giving peoples more choices within the iOS world. Isn't that just a good thing?

It's Apple we are talking about who is strictly against giving choices to customers.

 

[Sevendaymelee]

I'm wondering when louder is too loud. I notice my 7+ screen vibrates when playing it loud. I'm wondering if this could damage the display over a long period. I really appreciate the stereo as compared to my 6, that was a nice surprise feature I missed at the keynote.

Listening to music through your iPhone's speakers is ridiculously horrible anyway. Either use ear buds or buy some good speakers.

 

[LightSwitch]

Also, I would not get to excited, as I don't forsee Apple embedding the home button this Year into the display. I believe it will be remapped to the back of the iPhone, if not retained on the front of the iPhone.

I would hate a Home Button on the back of the display. There are so many people (myself included) who use Wallet Style cases for credit cards and the like. A cut out on these kind of cases is just going to be weird. Sure we'll find out soon enough....

 

[44267547]

I would hate a Home Button on the back of the display. There are so many people (myself included) who use Wallet Style cases for credit cards and the like. A cut out on these kind of cases is just going to be weird. Sure we'll find out soon enough....

It's definitely not going to be a feature many will be appreciative of, because that's not what most are used to where the current touch ID is now. I think if Apple remaps the touch ID button to the back of the iPhone and once it releases, perhaps more may jump on board if there are some users who have adjusted easier than they thought they would with the different placement.

 

[The Game 161]

Tried to use wireless sound / Bluetooth on a long plane flight?

Good luck with that.

And Bluetooth will never be a replacement for wired sound because of sound quality.

It's fine on a plane actually

My beats solo3 are great for sound. Wires are nothing more than frustrating and annoying now

 

[ValO]

I would hate a Home Button on the back of the display. There are so many people (myself included) who use Wallet Style cases for credit cards and the like. A cut out on these kind of cases is just going to be weird. Sure we'll find out soon enough....

I think and hope, that IF they put it on the back, it has to be in the apple logo. For the 5.8 inch model(comparable to the iphone 6s/7 size) , it should be the perfect height. Apple could then release iphone cases with an apple logo cutout(they only have the copyright/trademark for that) and could make them more money in accessories .And that fits the way. Apple operates these days. And it will look a lot cleaner.

But if there ever will be a plus version later on, i hope they will manage to put it in the display, because the apple logo will be more of a stretch there. And i hope they will release a plus version, but they could just wait for the iphone in September 2018 for that(8s+?)

 

[zen]

For all the people hesitant about the touch ID being on the back (and I was one of them), it actually makes perfect sense if you think about it. If you take your current phone and hold it in one hand, and pretend the sensor is on the back (centre, or try next to the camera lens, or try below the Apple logo), it is actually ergonomically very good. You can still very easily use RFID, and I actually find my grip is less precarious than pinching my phone with my thumb at the bottom.

The Google Pixel has a rear sensor, as does the Samsung S8, so I'm sure Apple will do the same. It's not a big deal. The lack of headphone jack remains the big deal!

 

[Ian Howlett]

The most important feature for me would be better cellular signal reception (for calls and data).

I can be in an area on my iPhone and get no signal, yet a Samsung Galaxy right next to it can have lots of signal. This happens with other iPhones too, it's not that I have a faulty handset.