iPhone 8 to Feature All-Glass Casing in Order to Support Wireless Charging

[tann]

Any quick charge please. Current charge speeds are laughable with included chargers. Goes for iPhones and iPads!!

 

[EdT]

Wireless has very real limits—mostly for safety reasons. You're talking about a non-negligible amount of ERP around people. It's one thing to talk about transmitting a few milliwatts next to your head. It's quite another when you're talking about high single-digit watts. That makes the old analog cell phones look like toys by comparison.... You want to talk about cancer fears... at those power levels, they'll actually be legitimate causes for concern.

There are a LOT of OTA TV and radio stations at 50,000 watts of power being broadcast. Even in crowded markets there are lots of 10-30,000 watt stations. In addition, many communication companies still use microwave towers that broadcast in a more focused 30 watt range, and there can be a lot of those in cities. Then there are the satellite cable companies that beam microwave signals down from their satellites to receiver dishes mounted on houses. Most national networks have much bigger systems to transmit and receive, also by satellite relay. Then there is GPS satellites also beaming signals. I don't think a 5-10 watt local signal, even a hell of a lot of them, is going to add much to this.

 

[metsjetsfan]

Is this the begining of RIP for lightning?

 

[Brian Clifford]

Good on you Jony Ive! You have envisioned the "one sheet of glass" look for quite some time now.

 

[jerryk]

Yep. I get the benefit of just setting down your phone and having it charge, but when traveling, you have to carry not only the wall socket plug, but the cord and charging pad, which frankly is more than you do with a cord and wall socket plug today. This is why Apple hasn't embraced the tech - because it's not really a leap ahead, like wireless / padless charging will be. That will be the game changer, the next wifi-like advancement as it will have the ability to change how we live with our devices, moving to an even more wireless life.

No, while travelling you plug in you phone like you do today. It is wired and wireless charging, not one or the other.

 

[Rookbird]

That's why they've been developing a way to mass produce LiquidMetal for about 5 years now. It's stronger than steel from an impact standpoint, and it's 100% RF transparent.

Really? LiquidMetal is 100% RF transparent? Id like to know what LiquidMetal consists of.

 

[Bone Ranger]

As an investor, what company is getting the glass contract I am wondering?
Corning?

 

[AZREOSpecialist]

Don't expect anything dramatically different than today, albeit with different materials. If Apple has shown us anything in the last few years, it's that is seems loathe to design anything new while milking the designs of the past.

 

[JamesPDX]

There are a LOT of OTA TV and radio stations at 50,000 watts of power being broadcast. Even in crowded markets there are lots of 10-30,000 watt stations. In addition, many communication companies still use microwave towers that broadcast in a more focused 30 watt range, and there can be a lot of those in cities. Then there are the satellite cable companies that beam microwave signals down from their satellites to receiver dishes mounted on houses. Most national networks have much bigger systems to transmit and receive, also by satellite relay. Then their is GPS satellites also beaming signals. I don't think a 5-10 watt local signal, even a hell of a lot of them, is going to add much to this.

Hmm. https://www.fcc.gov/wireless/auction-1000

 

[jm001]

Maybe Apple could ask everyone else how they can charge wirelessly without a glass case.
Hell, even the Palm Pre announced in 2010 had wireless charging, yet it wasn't doomed to destruction following a slip from the hand.

Anyway, it is just a rumour...

Re-read the article it does say that Apple DOES know about current wireless charging that's why the rumour is they WANT to go all glass. Apparently there are issues with current metal cases and wireless charging whereas glass casings allow devices to charge faster.

 

[mbpowner]

Would a handset to put the iPhone in be required yo be plugged? I heard that technology is apparently already available with iphone 6 + etc. , by plus i mean 6 and above. Not the 6 plus

 

[JamesPDX]

I'm calling it: No ports, no buttons. Nuthin' but glass.

 

[Koalazub]

I'm calling it: No ports, no buttons. Nuthin' but glass.

Dear cables,
kthxbai.


On a side note: if they have some new method of quickly charging the battery(I'm assuming some sort of flash charging like the Pixel) then I'm all for it.

 

[BlargKing]

I'm a little leery of this idea of wireless charging over the air like wifi. Could that possibly be healthy to be near? Sounds like it would be a pocket of cancerous radiation to be near something like that.

Wireless has very real limits—mostly for safety reasons. You're talking about a non-negligible amount of ERP around people. It's one thing to talk about transmitting a few milliwatts next to your head. It's quite another when you're talking about high single-digit watts. That makes the old analog cell phones look like toys by comparison.... You want to talk about cancer fears... at those power levels, they'll actually be legitimate causes for concern.

RF radiation cannot and will not cause cancer. No matter how many hundreds of watts you get exposed to. That much RF can cause burns through the excitation of water molecules in our bodies, but its on the wrong end of the spectrum to cause the kind of damage needed to cause cancer.

I cannot tell you how tired I am of people thinking radio waves can cause cancer. 6th grade science will teach you that its fundamentally impossible.

Since I'm so nice, heres a handy chart to illustrate:

Ionizing = Cancer causing, non-ionizing = no cancer

Now tell me where radio and cell phones end up.

 

[44267547]

I don't think I have ever once used an emoji. Ever.

Nope, it's the truth. In fact not only do I not use them but I think they are childish and tacky.

Agreed. They just seem sophomoric to me. Like something a high schooler uses to communicate versus actually taking the time to use words. There worthless to me.

Anyway, excited for the iPhone 8 (No emoji included).

 

[Tech198]

hehe..Didn't Apple use glass in the past?

 

[deany]

Just to confirm apple do U turn, hoping they will U turn on the soldering of SSD on 2016 rMBP

From 2012

Phil Schiller on "Wireless charging"

http://www.geekwire.com/2012/apple-wireless-charging/

"After unveiling the new iPhone 5 yesterday, Apple marketing boss Phil Schiller told AllThingsD that the company doesn’t see much use for the type of wireless charging that Nokia showed, because it still requires the use of a wireless charging unit."

Roll the clock 4 years:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads...n-order-to-support-wireless-charging.2017119/

= apple U turn

 

[The Game 161]

Difference is though apple wireless charging is likely to be different to how wireless charging that we know now from all reports

 

[EdT]

RF radiation cannot and will not cause cancer. No matter how many hundreds of watts you get exposed to. That much RF can cause burns through the excitation of water molecules in our bodies, but its on the wrong end of the spectrum to cause the kind of damage needed to cause cancer.

I cannot tell you how tired I am of people thinking radio waves can cause cancer. 6th grade science will teach you that its fundamentally impossible.

Since I'm so nice, heres a handy chart to illustrate:

Ionizing = Cancer causing, non-ionizing = no cancer

Now tell me where radio and cell phones end up.

This was part of the point I was trying to make, but you did it better. Mentally people separate light and radio waves, but they are the same thing. Not sort of, exactly. The difference is the wavelength, which corresponds to how energetic the wavelength is. The range we use for cell towers, radio stations and OTA TV is well below visible light. Visible and near visible light has significant amounts of energy-if you don't believe me go ask Elon Musk. And people are exposed every day to hundreds of thousands of watts of that energy. "Ahhhhh" I hear you say, but too much sunlight definitely causes cancer. Yes it does. Because the sun also puts out UV rays, it's just that our eyes can't see them. Look at any brand of sunscreen and it will brag about how well it blocks UV rays. And from the chart above, UV is ionizing.

 

[mac.ross]

Just to confirm apple do U turn, hoping they will U turn on the soldering of SSD on 2016 rMBP

From 2012

Phil Schiller on "Wireless charging"

http://www.geekwire.com/2012/apple-wireless-charging/

"After unveiling the new iPhone 5 yesterday, Apple marketing boss Phil Schiller told AllThingsD that the company doesn’t see much use for the type of wireless charging that Nokia showed, because it still requires the use of a wireless charging unit."

Roll the clock 4 years:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads...n-order-to-support-wireless-charging.2017119/

= apple U turn

How is it a u-turn?

Apple have been very upfront that they've been wanting to go fully wireless for many years now, the only thing really holding them back was the maturity of wireless charging.

The technology that they want to use won't require the device to be sitting directly on a mat constantly (which is what they didn't like), Extended Range Wireless Charging is a massive step up in both usability and practicality compared to current technology.

 

[deany]

How is it a u-turn?

Apple have been very upfront that they've been wanting to go fully wireless for many years now, the only thing really holding them back was the maturity of wireless charging.

The technology that they want to use won't require the device to be sitting directly on a mat constantly (which is what they didn't like), Extended Range Wireless Charging is a massive step up in both usability and practicality compared to current technology.

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[syclone]

Alumina or some other non-conductive ceramic makes way more sense than glass. Yes, it still shatters if you hit it hard enough, but the initial resistance to breaking should be better especially if there is a decent metal frame behind it. With Apple tinkering with ceramic on the watch I wouldn't be shocked to see a ceramic version of the iPhone 8... though knowing Apple it will be glass on the low end and some stupid $3,000 "iPhonr Edition" that gets the ceramic.

 

[macduke]

Wireless has very real limits—mostly for safety reasons. You're talking about a non-negligible amount of ERP around people. It's one thing to talk about transmitting a few milliwatts next to your head. It's quite another when you're talking about high single-digit watts. That makes the old analog cell phones look like toys by comparison.... You want to talk about cancer fears... at those power levels, they'll actually be legitimate causes for concern.

Wireless ≠ electromagnetic spectrum.

 

[cmaier]

Really? LiquidMetal is 100% RF transparent? Id like to know what LiquidMetal consists of.

Unobtanium.
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Just to confirm apple do U turn, hoping they will U turn on the soldering of SSD on 2016 rMBP

From 2012

Phil Schiller on "Wireless charging"

http://www.geekwire.com/2012/apple-wireless-charging/

"After unveiling the new iPhone 5 yesterday, Apple marketing boss Phil Schiller told AllThingsD that the company doesn’t see much use for the type of wireless charging that Nokia showed, because it still requires the use of a wireless charging unit."

Roll the clock 4 years:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads...n-order-to-support-wireless-charging.2017119/

= apple U turn

This is the exact opposite of a u-turn. He said he didn't like wireless charging of the kind where you have to stick it on a charging base. This rumor says that apple's charging will require no physical contact. In other words, apple is doing it exactly the way he previously said it should be done.

 

[tiptongrange]

As long as we're talking about wireless charging, Apple will probably be coming out with new keyboards for the iMac that have a touch bar and match the features on the MacBook Pro's keyboard. I wonder if the new keyboard, trackpad, and AirPod charging case will also support wireless charging.

And, as for its design, I assume the charger will look similar to the 1st generation Airport Express, a small brick that plugs directly into the wall socket with an interchangeable adapter for each country which would make it totally wireless.