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iPhone 8 TouchId in the rear
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is it not obvious that people here chose iphone for a reason? button on back from android phone is not one of these reason.
button on the back is not bad but it is not great. trying to fish it without seeing it.
While the button might have been part of something that some might have considered making their decision as to which phone to get, it doesn't seem it's something that many likely have given that much consideration given plenty of other reasons people could and often do base their decisions of this type. Quite likely that many, if not most would have made the same decision even with the button being on the back. (Similar to how it worked out with the removal of the headphone jack or the different home button, or the sleep/lock button being on the side instead of the top, or the movement of the headphone jack from the top to the bottom, etc.).
This. It just doesn't feel like Apple. They waited with Airpods until tech was ready to get rid of the wires completely.
I haven't seen this addressed in this topic, if the fingerprint reader is in the back, how would the cases look like?
deuxani
macrumors 6502a
Just remember what people said about the leaks of the iPhone 4 and its "ugly" seams, the two tone back of the iPhone 5, the "terrible" looking antenna lines on the iPhone 6, the "hideous" dual camera on the iPhone 7 Plus. Everyone here said that Apple would never make something like that and if they did, they would never buy it.... and they did make those phones and most eventually even loved it 🙂
If you think about it realistically, this is a prototype design in case Apple is not able to get the fingerprint reader behind the screen working in time. In my opinion, chances are pretty big they either can't get it working or can't mass produce it. In that case the only option would be putting it on the back, because on the front there's no room. Next year, the successor of this device could then get it behind the screen as its big feature.
It's just not as far fetched as people say it is.
If you think about it realistically, this is a prototype design in case Apple is not able to get the fingerprint reader behind the screen working in time. In my opinion, chances are pretty big they either can't get it working or can't mass produce it. In that case the only option would be putting it on the back, because on the front there's no room. Next year, the successor of this device could then get it behind the screen as its big feature.
It's just not as far fetched as people say it is.
lordofthereef
macrumors G5
I don't know that most people chose iPhone because of the placement of the home button. The statement I made was one where I feel many (not all) are making assumptions about functionality of something without having ever used it. You made an assertion about cases and I gave a counter example. The placement of the button has nothing to do with android, as a platform, I just used it as a tangible real world comparison. I suspect most people using iPhone use it for iOS and avoid android because it's android.
This discussion is an opportunity to put operating systems aside and discuss the ergonomics of design. I imagine a touchid placed on the back of an iPhone would function identically to the fingerprint scanners I the backs of many other smartphones.
Anyway, if you don't think you'll like the button in the rear that is perfectly fair. I just wanted to mention that well designed cases don't make that button inherently more difficult to use. In some cases it's actually nicer because the button is easier to find by feel without looking.
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Andrewtst
macrumors 6502
The new leak is more and more disappointing... no round corner screen, the awkward location of TouchID sensor (I mean it is way too low) and overall the back combination looks very ugly!
I though S8/S8+ finger sensor location already awkward and back combination not nice enough but this new leak of iPhone even worst...
For the moment, the nicer back ever did and correctly did is LG G6.
For front, S8/S8+ is absolutely nice and well done.
I though S8/S8+ finger sensor location already awkward and back combination not nice enough but this new leak of iPhone even worst...
For the moment, the nicer back ever did and correctly did is LG G6.
For front, S8/S8+ is absolutely nice and well done.
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a reach out to Apple
We've patiently waited three years for a dynamic hardware change
If need be take more time but don't go backwards in designing the next iPhone
Take more time but do it right
We've patiently waited three years for a dynamic hardware change
If need be take more time but don't go backwards in designing the next iPhone
Take more time but do it right
Brandonjr36
macrumors 68000
I probably won't buy it if it has it on the back. Just a lazy idea. If I'm giving almost $1000 for a phone it better have the unlock sensor on the front. and not look tacky on the back. Hell I would rather them get rid of it all together then to add it on the back.
[doublepost=1492285113][/doublepost]If they screw up on the Touch ID I will be getting the lg g6. There obviously the only one that can make a phone without a ridiculous sensor on the back.
[doublepost=1492285113][/doublepost]If they screw up on the Touch ID I will be getting the lg g6. There obviously the only one that can make a phone without a ridiculous sensor on the back.
I hope they keep the touchid in the front, I really don't like having stuff in the back especially if it's going to have a case on it.
snicklesnackle
macrumors member
Google have theirs on the rear, Samsung have just followed suit, is there any chance some of you are blowing this out of proportion?
KiXeR
macrumors member
Considering the fact that Samsung made a design mistake, I think people weren't expecting Apple to put Touch ID on the back, and they still know that not this could be a prototype of many.
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Yes and completely not the point!
Superrjamz54
macrumors 6502
You mean that sensor thing on the back of the LG G6 isn't the fingerprint scanner? It must be under the screen right and above the front bezel. Have you ever seen a G6?
I certainly hope that leak is not official with the touch ID been placed on the back of the iPhone. But I do question the legitimacy, being LG and Samsung have routed this way now as well. I certainly hope Apple does something different or retains the touch ID embedded into the display or physically until they're ready for a formidable solution.
Andrewtst
macrumors 6502
Even if no choice also make it nicer like G6. Current leak is way too ugly already.
True, but this was an aesthetic issue (antenna bands, glass exterior...). Fingerprint reader on the back on the other hand is a major usability issue (handling the phone, having a case, unlocking the phone while on the table...).
Personally I would say I unlock the phone at least 25% of the time while it's flat on the table. With every touchid iteration Apple was trying to make the unlocking faster and more seamless. Now we have raise to wake + touchid - no physical buttons, people were actually complaining that it is too fast. Now try to imagine how long it takes to do it with the reader in the back.
This is why I hope these renders are fake.
From what I've read Apple are trying to put the fingerprint reader under the display, but there are currently low yields the thing is we hear this every year low yields on something, last year it was the dual lens camera. So I'm inclined to think this is either fake or a back up just in case the design they want isn't do-able.
I think Apple will have the touch ID either embedded in the display or will retain it one more year physically, but I'm willing to guess touch ID will not be on the back of the iPhone. It's possible it could happen, but knowing how Apple does things so different, I just don't see them following the path of where LG and Samsung is.
That is really nice, great work 🙂 if the iPhone 8 looks anything like that i will be pre-ordering one as soon they go live.
Andrewtst
macrumors 6502
If this is real. I will immediately buy or preorder when available. This is possible and it looks very awesome!
deuxani
macrumors 6502a
That's definitely true. I would really hate it on the back, but I think it's realistic it could happen.
Also, just imagine this was fake. Why would someone who would fake it put the fingerprint scanner on the back? If you would fake the iPhone 8 you would assume the scanner under the screen, maybe rounded screen corners, no top and bottom bezels at all, etc. But this design is with square screen corners, not very tiny bottom and top bezels, fingerprint scanner on the back, vertical dual camera's, etc. The ugliness and compromise of this schematic to me only makes it more real.