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I do think China must do more to ensure iPhone production is not hampered by domestic issues.

The world is basically running on iPhones now. It's vital for the global economy that any issues are jumped on ASAP.
 
Bloomberg is money/business focused, so why shouldn't they cover the impact the virus outbreak could have on business & revenue? Should they bury their heads in the sand so the professionally offended don't get offended?

Because it is total speculation intended to impact a stock price. Gorman has zero evidence other than there is a virus in one part of a massive country and the phones are built in another part of that massive country. Yet he is talking with surety.

Some of us remember when MR had editorial standards.
 
"I can't imagine a scenario where the supply chain isn't disrupted," said veteran industry analyst Patrick Moorhead of Moor Insights & Strategy. "If there's one major hiccup in the raw materials, fabrication, assembly, test, and shipping, it will be a disruption."

Can't even imagine? Even though this is just a speculative prediction. :rolleyes:

Then he says IF [definition of disruption] then it will be a disruption. Which while true has no impact on the likelihood of the IF part occurring.
 
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Of course that's the first thing that comes to my mind at a potential pandemic... the supply chain of a luxury product that's going to be released in 9 month.

Let's pump the brakes here. It's irresponsible to create fear by calling it a "potential pandemic." It seems to be more virulent than regular variants of the flu and precautions should be taken, but currently ~106 people have died, whereas 8200 people in the US died from the regular old flu in the US last year.

Wash your hands, get your flu shot, stay home if you're sick, and get the new flu vaccine for coronavirus when they develop it.

And no one here cares more the stupid phones than the lives of the workers. This is just disseminating information that it might be delayed.
 
Of course that's the first thing that comes to my mind at a potential pandemic... the supply chain of a luxury product that's going to be released in 9 month.
This isn't even the first story Macrumors published about this new Corona virus (the first one was about Apple donating money to help fight it). And it certainly isn't the first story Bloomberg published about the new virus. And what might sound strange to you, but a publication focussed on Apple will first talk about a new virus when that virus and Apple somehow cross paths.
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Because it is total speculation intended to impact a stock price. Gorman has zero evidence other than there is a virus in one part of a massive country and the phones are built in another part of that massive country. Yet he is talking with surety.

Some of us remember when MR had editorial standards.
What is wrong with well-founded speculation? Isn't any prediction about the future some kind of speculation?
 
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Coronavirus outbreak hits China, iPhone users most affected

Keep in mind, China is Apples second largest market, plus that’s where the manufacturing takes place at Foxconn in Shenzhen. So yes, ‘iPhone users and employees alike’ would have the potential to be affected.
 
Boy, if I had a penny every time somebody advanced a conspiracy theory ...

Do you really think it is healthy to always blame a conspiratorial nefarious intent behind everything you don't like?
I don’t like or dislike it. I’ve just been observant enough to note the same exact behavior, quarter after quarter after quarter, for many, many years.

Negative articles published about Apple prior to the conference call are par for the course. Bloomberg is not a credible publication as they still haven’t retracted their “big hack” BS fabricated story, published over a year ago.

Feel free to to believe they have something of value to say about this subject. Foxconn stated months ago that they have assembly capacity—sufficient for the entire US demand—outside of China. I think they can handle assembling 15 million iPhone “SE2” over the next six months. What do you think?

btw, feel free to search through my post history to find support for your straw man statement that I “always blame a conspiratorial nefarious intent behind everything (I) don’t like. 🙄
 
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Some of us remember when MR had editorial standards.
So, if you don’t count this as having editorial standards…basically never?

Look, every now and again I’ve gone back and looked at articles surrounding significant launches from the past. They’re way better off now than they used to be in that department. And yes, they still have a long way to go, but there’s seriously nothing wrong with publishing this story.
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I don’t like or dislike it. I’ve just been observant enough to note the same exact behavior, quarter after quarter after quarter, for many, many years.

Negative articles published about Apple prior to the conference call are par for the course. Bloomberg is not a credible publication as they still haven’t retracted their “big hack” BS fabricated story, published over a year ago.

Feel free to to believe they have something of value to say about this subject. Foxconn stated months ago that they have assembly capacity—sufficient for the entire US demand—outside of China. I think they can handle assembling 15 million iPhone “SE2” over the next six months. What do you think?

btw, feel free to search through my post history to find support for your straw man statement that I “always blame a conspiratorial nefarious intent behind everything (I) don’t like. 🙄
Yawn. AAPL’s up ~1.3% so far today along with much of the tech sector, outperforming the S&P 500, and AAPL’s among the most sensitive stocks to China news. If it’s an attempt to manipulate the stock, it’s not working well at all.
 
Yawn. AAPL’s up ~1.3% so far today along with much of the tech sector, outperforming the S&P 500, and AAPL’s among the most sensitive stocks to China news. If it’s an attempt to manipulate the stock, it’s not working well at all.
Bloomberg should be ignored. They’re a piece of **** publication that doesn’t have the integrity to retract a story they get wrong. Heavily reliant on a single source—who almost immediately disclaimed the conclusions the article’s authors made based on his rather innocuous hypothetical statements—the “big hack” story hasn’t gotten any better with age.

Bloomberg can try to ignore the fact that they blew it, but as a journalistic organization, they’re dead to me (and others). I put them in the same general category as Business Insider, Fortune and others who traffic in clickbait and are best ignored, to one degree or the other imo.

PS Appreciate the condescending and dismissive yawn. Nice passive aggressive opening.
 
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Bloomberg and Macrumours should be ashamed of themselves for publishing this article.Lives are more important than the production of a smartphone.Disgraceful !
Can you point to the section of the article where they say otherwise?
 
I don’t like or dislike it. I’ve just been observant enough to note the same exact behavior, quarter after quarter after quarter, for many, many years.

Negative articles published about Apple prior to the conference call are par for the course. Bloomberg is not a credible publication as they still haven’t retracted their “big hack” BS fabricated story, published over a year ago.

Feel free to to believe they have something of value to say about this subject. Foxconn stated months ago that they have assembly capacity—sufficient for the entire US demand—outside of China. I think they can handle assembling 15 million iPhone “SE2” over the next six months. What do you think?

btw, feel free to search through my post history to find support for your straw man statement that I “always blame a conspiratorial nefarious intent behind everything (I) don’t like. 🙄
Well, how often have you poo-pooed positive rumours about Apple as being market manipulation and how often have you done so for negative rumours? Show me a single instance of you doing the former.

What is there to believe? Bloomberg is just stating the obvious. That new corona virus could really disrupt things in China in the next coming weeks. I guess you also don't believe Bloomberg if they predicted that it would rain tomorrow, because you know 'they are not a credible publication'. If one false story by a news organisation means you don't trust any of their news, you'd quickly run out of news providers. Most people can be more nuanced in their assessment. Mark Gurman also wasn't involved in that "big hack" story.

Who the hell is talking about the next six months? We are talking about the next couple of weeks. For once, it might take a week or two to shift assembly from one country to another, plus it's not just assembly, it's all the suppliers as well.

BTW, you say one bad story by Bloomberg means they are not credible publication, but when I use one conspiracy theory presented by you to declare that you do this often, I am suddenly the one that is doing the generalising?
 
Bloomberg should be ignored. They’re a piece of **** publication that doesn’t have the integrity to retract a story they get wrong. Heavily reliant on a single source—who almost immediately disclaimed the conclusions the article’s authors made based on his rather innocuous hypothetical statements—the “big hack” story hasn’t gotten any better with age.

Bloomberg can try to ignore the fact that they blew it, but as a journalistic organization, they’re dead to me (and others). I put them in the same general category as Business Insider, Fortune and others who traffic in clickbait and are best ignored, to one degree or the other imo.

PS Appreciate the condescending and dismissive yawn. Nice passive aggressive opening.
Notice how I didn’t say a solitary word about Bloomberg’s integrity. All I said was that if it’s an attempt to manipulate AAPL southward, it sure isn’t working. Besides, if Bloomberg’s integrity is so far down the toilet, why even care if they try to manipulate the stock with a purportedly negative story?

AAPL’s now up over 2% for the day, by the way.
 
Well, how often have you poo-pooed positive rumours about Apple as being market manipulation and how often have you done so for negative rumours? Show me a single instance of you doing the former.

What is there to believe? Bloomberg is just stating the obvious. That new corona virus could really disrupt things in China in the next coming weeks. I guess you also don't believe Bloomberg if they predicted that it would rain tomorrow, because you know 'they are not a credible publication'. If one false story by a news organisation means you don't trust any of their news, you'd quickly run out of news providers. Most people can be more nuanced in their assessment. Mark Gurman also wasn't involved in that "big hack" story.

Who the hell is talking about the next six months? We are talking about the next couple of weeks. For once, it might take a week or two to shift assembly from one country to another, plus it's not just assembly, it's all the suppliers as well.

BTW, you say one bad story by Bloomberg means they are not credible publication, but when I use one conspiracy theory presented by you to declare that you do this often, I am suddenly the one that is doing the generalising?
1) It’s not up to me to prove or disprove your claim. That’s on you.

2) I already said Gurman occasionally gets good Apple info. And yes, when a news organization fails to retract a false story, that absolutely affects their credibility, and reflects very poorly on the organization as a whole. It shows a complete lack of integrity and responsibility to its readers. I’m not going to keep a list of which Bloomberg reporters I can and can’t believe. The fact that Bloomberg promoted the lead author of the article is further damning.

Perhaps personal integrity is more important than a paycheck and Gurman should quit?

3) Apple doesn’t need 15 million units on day one, and were months away from a rumored introduction. Apparently volume production hasn’t even begun. If Apple wants to ship parts to Vietnam or India or wherever, they will. It’s not October and Apple doesn’t need to introduce this unannounced iPhone—if it even exists—on any particular schedule.

4) Your whataboutism provides no cover for your statement. I’m not a news organization, and I feel free to state my opinion.

Sack up and admit you had no basis for accusing me of trafficking in conspiracy theories, or prove it. Or just go away; foolish, unsupported accusations are non-productive.
 
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