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I wonder how much you could add into the "module"

what would you think id a better speaker, camera were also added to the battery pack?

More like a 2 part phone concept?
 
I thought it was obvious I meant all of those things in the same form factor and similar weight. They don't have to add weight and bulk, technological advances could mean Apple finds a solution. Adding a stereo speaker for example would be negligible weight increase (if any, if its replacing a solid piece of the phone) and no bulk increase.
The only "technological advance" in the near future that could remove weight while offsetting the addition of new features or hardware is the use of a silicon carbon battery. I suspect that the Air's and the new MagSafe battery's encased battery design was meant to transition to SiC at some point. We'll see if that happens with the Air or the folding iPhone.
 
I hardly ever use my phone speakers. You don’t have Bluetooth speakers or AirPods?

Thats actually why I went with the 17e instead of Air, all the stuff that is important for a phone to be a phone, like the microphone, speakers and one could even say battery life, are just missing from the Air in comparison to the 17e.
 
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The downside being of course the 20th anniversary phone is probably going to make a lot of Air 2 buyers upgrade again, assuming it's a separate model and not the 'new pro' thickness wise. Time will tell.
Isn't that what the whole "Air" concept is leading to? Now that Apple has the huge aluminum bricks for the power users, getting back to the aesthetics of the "X" should be the next direction.

How long will Apple stick with the current boxy design?
 
I still don't understand the appeal of a super thin phone with a huge camera bump, but to each their own.
Totally! The whole concept of a thin phone goes out the window with that fugly uneven camera bump. How does Apple not understand this?! When marketing a thin phone, you actually have to make the whole thing…thin!
 
I have iPhone Air and I don’t think I will ever go back to having the Pro versions, unless Apple stops making the Air. iPhone Pros have gone ridiculously large, far to large to put them in a pocket.
 
Thats actually why I went with the 17e instead of Air, all the stuff that is important for a phone to be a phone, like the microphone, speakers and one could even say battery life, are just missing from the Air in comparison to the 17e.
My Air can hear me from afar, and Siri works HomeKit seamlessly. Speakers are only needed at home, either for voice commands when not in range of HomePods, or calls whilst working the bbq.
 
It is technically a plus model that apple removed for 17 as they know that it will impact pro max sales due to the fix of all the weakness for 17 including 120hz etc.

If Air 2 has second camera, it is technically a slim version of plus model.
 
I switched from 14 pro max to Air and I enjoy Air a lot. I use it significantly more than pro max due to its light weight.

I have iPad mini 7 which I use it often on the move and at home but now on the move I did not even bring a long my iPad mini 7 any more that I use air only. Even at home I now use air more.

The weight of a phone makes significant difference to user experience.
 
Have you held one?
I have. I liked the thinness of the body, and appreciate the engineering that went into getting it that thin, but with that camera bump it's almost back to the thickness of a Pro phone. Like I said, to each their own. I'm in the camp that thinks the Pro models are adequately thin and I'd rather have more battery if the camera system is going to push out the thickness anyway.
 
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I have a 16 Pro. My wife has the air. Every time I pick her phone up, I'm a bit jealous...

I figured I would upgrade to the 18 Pro, and maybe I will... But honestly I don't use a zoom lens that often so the Air 2 might be my next phone.

Her battery life is totally fine. On days where she knows she needs extra juice like Disneyland or a concert, then she just has a slim magnetic battery. 90% of days it is more than fine.
 
I wish they'd turn the Air into one half of the upcoming fold/ultra. A thin, small, passport size phone would be an instant buy for me.

All the videos of the new Samsung and the iPhone mocks leave me loving for the form factor but not wanting to have to spent 2k+ to get the folding internal screen.
 
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If you look at the teardown of the original iPhone Air, it seems quite far fetched that they will be able to add an entire second camera. What are they going to do, physically take a big chunk out of the battery shape and move a bunch of stuff downwards?

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The main SoC is at the top middle of the phone.
 
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It's amazing how many people are chiming in how everything with the Air is "just fine" or folks have only one particular nit to pick.

It did not sell well, so something is off with the folks praising it here vs the reality of the wider market.

Should be fascinating to watch.

I expect a very minor revision and continued tepid sales (at best), especially in our new pricing environment.

If there were a smaller version, even with just one camera, I'd have considered it.
The width in hand is way too much for me when I've spent time with it. I found myself shifting it around in my hand when demoing it and knew after 5 mins ... no way. "You'll hate this once the novelty wears off"
 
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