iPhone Air and iPhone 17 Limited to USB 2

[M-Life]

Someone check my math please....

If you were to transfer your entire 256GB storage via a 17 Pro, it would take about 25 seconds optimally.

If you did the same on a 17 air, it would be about 9 minutes.

 

[Carlos51]

Awe dropping, really.

 

[turbineseaplane]

An influencer would not be using the Air.

Sure they would/will.

It's the first new form factor in quite a while.

Influencers will be all over them

 

[thiscatisfat]

So you want them to increase the price so the thing most people seldom do is slightly faster?

I want many things that Apple just doesn’t seem to be able to deliver, and value for money happens to be one of them. The thing is already overpriced, we’re pushing for thunderbolt 4 speeds while you happily pay a thousand bucks for a phone that now after 4 years finally has a 120hz screen across the board and USB 2 transfers speeds.

 

[ghostface147]

How often do you have to sit around waiting for your photos to transfer?

Frequently as I take a lot of pics and airdropping is slow.

 

[filchermcurr]

Who transfers files to the Mac? Only YouTubers I guess, that buys the Pro phone anyway

People who prefer encrypted local backups. People who have local media libraries. People who prefer to use actual computers to edit photos and videos. There are plenty of reasons non-YouTube people still transfer files.

Not everybody has the same workflow, requirements, knowledge, or budget. Some people may not be a "professional" and this phone is Good Enough(tm), but they still want to edit their photos and videos. Some people may not be able to afford to pay rent on Apple servers to store terabytes of data. Some people may worry about the privacy implications of trusting servers outside of their control with their static data. Everybody is different with different priorities. It's annoying to dismiss people because they don't do things the way you think they should be done. (Not specifically directed at you but all of the people in this thread who are dismissive of those who might want to do the seemingly inconceivable and plug a phone into a computer.)

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

I want many things that Apple just doesn’t seem to be able to deliver, and value for money happens to be one of them. The thing is already overpriced, we’re pushing for thunderbolt 4 speeds while you happily pay a thousand bucks for a phone that now after 4 years finally has a 120hz screen across the board and USB 2 transfers speeds.

So you just want such, without an actual use case?

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

Frequently as I take a lot of pics and airdropping is slow.

More than once a day? Why not just let it charge and transfer while you sleep?

I'm still not understanding the use case here.

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

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People who prefer encrypted local backups. People who have local media libraries. People who prefer to use actual computers to edit photos and videos. There are plenty of reasons non-YouTube people still transfer files.

Not everybody has the same workflow, requirements, knowledge, or budget. Some people may not be a "professional" and this phone is Good Enough(tm), but they still want to edit their photos and videos. Some people may not be able to afford to pay rent on Apple servers to store terabytes of data. Some people may worry about the privacy implications of trusting servers outside of their control with their static data. Everybody is different with different priorities. It's annoying to dismiss people because they don't do things the way you think they should be done. (Not specifically directed at you but all of the people in this thread who are dismissive of those who might want to do the seemingly inconceivable and plug a phone into a computer.)

And you think these kinds of people are not buying Pros?

 

[FlavorfulTreat]

I was going to write something witty, but my rage is preventing me. Arguably this is their flagship phone this release cycle and they limit the phone to USB2 speeds. Disgusting.

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

(Not specifically directed at you but all of the people in this thread who are dismissive of those who might want to do the seemingly inconceivable and plug a phone into a computer.)

Every iPhone can still be plugged into a computer and have the files transferred, though.

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

I was going to write something witty, but my rage is preventing me. Arguably this is their flagship phone this release cycle and they limit the phone to USB2 speeds. Disgusting.

Help me understand why you find it disgusting, please.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Apple is FINISHED. Steve would have never allowed this

What product are you preordering?

 

[cyb3rdud3]

I can't get excited about this. I can't even remember the last time I've plugged my phone in for any reason. Not even to charge it. Videos/Photos can either airdrop, or even better nicely synched through photos so they are in the library and can be used by any application. I don't even have to do anything for it.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

I don't think it is an issue for 95%+ of the iPhone user population. It is only a big deal to the usual complainers on MR and the YT creators who fret over a few seconds extra.

Yea

Could someone explain to me why this is an issue?

This is clearly a phone not aimed at Pro users.

Because Apple stopped making something in the past (Airport Base Stations, iDVD, Final Cut Pro7) that they enjoyed using, so that means Apple MUST be on a curve to irrelevance. Because it doesn’t appear to be happening on it’s own, they’ve taken it upon themselves to hasten it.

 

[Sixto]

Does Air USB 2 support wired fast charging? Thus any difference between 16 Pro wired charging vs 17 Air wired charging?

 

[Biro]

If Apple had gone fully wireless with the iPhone Air, it would have been a bold move. But choosing to stick with a technology from the year 2000 is an even braver decision.

And one of a few reasons I won’t be buying an iPhone Air. Not at $999. Thinness is nice… but with all the other compromises, I’ll pass at that price point.

 

[DaffiDuck]

LOL Apple do not care they are the biggest stock buy back in the world ..... stop buying the AI Features ????

 

[jedivulcan]

I think more than any other year … marketing the iPhone Air “The thinnest iPhone ever. With the power of Pro inside” … is really pushing it … since it doesn’t have ProRes, ProRaw, even the same GPU count as the Pro models this year. The marketing is objectively false. It would be like marketing the MacBook Air as the thinnest Pro they’ve made.

 

[zaidbaby]

I don't think it is an issue for 95%+ of the iPhone user population. It is only a big deal to the usual complainers on MR and the YT creators who fret over a few seconds extra.

says the guy with m4 as dp.

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

Yea
Because Apple stopped making something in the past (Airport Base Stations, iDVD, Final Cut Pro7) that they enjoyed using, so that means Apple MUST be on a curve to irrelevance. Because it doesn’t appear to be happening on it’s own, they’ve taken it upon themselves to hasten it.

Man, I really do miss Airport and Expresses. Great UI, decent coverage, didn't look horrible.

 

[Mackie924]

says the guy with m4 as dp.

I mean, they're right. And I can understand being upset and annoyed, but users here are in the minority. The vast people that buy non-Pro iPhones won't care. I'm not defending Apple here, that's just the reality.

 

[superberg]

Ignoring all the rage in the comments to point out that the early iPad Pros did USB 3.0 over lightning.

People need to stop saying lightning was limited to USB 2 speeds.

For the Air my guess is it’s a thermal limit. For the regular iPhone it’s possible the controller only supports USB 2.

Not the best spec, not something I’d defend Apple for. But in my experience most people are buying cheap USB-C cables that only support USB 2 anyway and I’m sure that’s the logic they use, too.

 

[Apple_Robert]

says the guy with m4 as dp.

I can buy whatever I want whenever I want. If a product strikes my fancy for whatever singular (or more reason) I get it, regardless of what others may do. If I was chasing specs as your retort tried to suggest, I wouldn't still be using a 12" MacBook, 11" MBA, or have bought other products that clearly overlapped one another.

Your retort failed. It also didn't address the proper context of what I was responding to with my post.

 

[FlavorfulTreat]

Help me understand why you find it disgusting, please.

The USB 2.0 specification was released on April 27, 2000. You’re good with paying top dollar for 25 year old tech? Neat.