jlwarlow
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It’ll be interesting to see if there’s small print saying excluding UK due to weakened encryption with ADP being disabled at UK GOVs request.
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iPhone and iPad Are First Consumer Devices Cleared for NATO Classified Data
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There are Android devices that are used by various government agencies and the military. Android fans often point to this as proof Android is more secure than iOS.
What they fail to realize is those are not only highly “managed” devices, but use modified Android that’s been locked down so tight you can’t do anything with them other than the very specific tasks they’re allowed to run.
While these iPhones are no doubt also managed (like enterprise/corporate devices) they’re still running vanilla iOS 26.
This is a big deal from a security perspective and is a win for Apple.
What they fail to realize is those are not only highly “managed” devices, but use modified Android that’s been locked down so tight you can’t do anything with them other than the very specific tasks they’re allowed to run.
While these iPhones are no doubt also managed (like enterprise/corporate devices) they’re still running vanilla iOS 26.
This is a big deal from a security perspective and is a win for Apple.
I intend this as neither a positive nor negative statement, but the fact that Apple is an American company is probably a major factor here.
Stasi was a Soviet innovation and KGB clone.
Mr_Brightside_@
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Would love to hear literally one of their sources because https://www.xda-developers.com/apples-app-tracking-costing-billions/
Darth Tulhu
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ThomasJL
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The problem isn't signal, arguably more secure then iMessage.. The issue is the device its being used on might not be secure for this type of comm's.. He was using a non MDM managed device, so thats a fail right there..Signal app is unauthorized (unapproved and unsecure according to Department of Defense Office of Inspector General findings)
Pentagon watchdog releases report on Hegseth's use of Signal app
The 84-page report finds US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth violated policy and could have put American troops at risk when he used the Signal app to discuss military strikes in Yemen.www.abc.net.au
The Pentagon watchdog has released a report that finds US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth could have put American troops at risk when he used the Signal app to discuss military strikes in Yemen.
The findings in the 84-page report, by the Department of Defense Office of Inspector General, had been leaked and widely reported before their formal release on Thursday, local time.
The inspector general found Mr Hegseth's use of a commercial messaging app and his personal device did not comply with the department's policies.
The report said:
"The Secretary sent information identifying the quantity and strike times of manned US aircraft over hostile territory over an unapproved, unsecure network approximately 2 to 4 hours before the execution of those strikes."
lazyrighteye
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For the US DoD, devices that are approved for Top Secret Classified information are Samsung devices with KNOX enterprise suite.
Then recently, DoD approved the Google Pixel devices as well.
As for Samsung Knox, I believe it's more secure than the iPhone.
Then recently, DoD approved the Google Pixel devices as well.
As for Samsung Knox, I believe it's more secure than the iPhone.
Whether its either Apple or Android devices, they have strict MDM policies set on them. So its not like a regular consumer devices.
Among other reasons why the US military or DoD has approved Samsung Galaxy devices especially for the rugged series like the Xcover6 Pro because there more rugged especially when used in the battlefield.
Still think Samsung Knox is hands down when handling classified information.
Among other reasons why the US military or DoD has approved Samsung Galaxy devices especially for the rugged series like the Xcover6 Pro because there more rugged especially when used in the battlefield.
Still think Samsung Knox is hands down when handling classified information.
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It was in this video, it just landed in my recommended stuff so I gave it a watch.
Part is at 27:43 I googled him though and he seems to have a track record on Apple? Still some valid points in the video. It set me in a mood lol.
gaximus
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There is a unique id tied to you and your device, apps are allowed to use this to track you for related ads. They’re are other ways to track you as well. If you “Ask app not to track you” then the app gets a fake id and can’t track you in that way. The app has no idea what you answer with. But a lot of apps don’t use that to track you. There are so many other ways.
It is ironic, as the VPN implemented backdoor is still active and exploited. Guess what? Every person involved in NATO uses VPN.
jdawgnoonan
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Shin-Ra
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This reminded me I never saw MIE support announced with the release of M5 products after the iPhones late last year.
Apple updated their Platform Security PDF in January with mentions of M5 MIE.
Apple updated their Platform Security PDF in January with mentions of M5 MIE.
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You can think that all you want but it doesn’t make it true.
iPhones have been approved by the DoD for years now. Google Pixels were approved recently. Devices used for top secret information are the heavily modified devices I mentioned above and have little in common with Android consumer devices.
Yeah, until the stable geniuse use private devices with non approved apps; hell even copy journalists on their messages because of human snafu - totally secure
Huh? Salt Typhoon, for one thing, targeted Windows and Linux-based ISP and governmental systems, and two, is largely mitigated. The most interesting thing about it is that Drumpf_admin_2 disbanded the team that was investigating it (and many other things), and then proceeded to offer a money reward for information about it. Derp. Now, it seems to be in the hands of the legislature and they are slowly continuing to gather information, although likely up against a Chinese state actor. So, Salt Typhoon is certainly a cause for concern, but doesn't have much to do with Apple or its devices or their relative security.
What is this approval for? someone in a nato office? I highly doubt it’s approved for battlefield carry. The Israelis who basically have access to iOS code probably have fifteen different ways to access and track your iPhone. If they have it there’s a good chance the Russians also have it. I just don’t see this being that secure. Military is a different level of caution vs civilian.
FYI 'NATO RESTRICTED' is the lowest form of classification (it's even below NATO CONFIDENTIAL) so while it's a nice press release, it's not a huge thing .. I daresay the American equivalent would be saying IOS can handle "controlled unclassified information' (CUI) which is a designation used to keep routine things out of the public eye for a few hours* at least.
* having worked in this space, I'm being very cynical here
* having worked in this space, I'm being very cynical here