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So tablets are becoming less popular in general? Good, keep the kids on PCs. :cool:

I am still a bit unsure as to whether the decline in tablet sales is just through a saturation point being reached with tablets or whether people have a tablet and don't feel the need to upgrade it because it does all they want it to do.

As long as windows is still around, you can count on a career repairing pc's.
 
It is a multi billion dollar industry, you're right, but like I said that mostly comes from "get fit quick schemes". "Here take this pill, here try this easy diet, and look GREAT in 3-4 weeks". What you just said about your supplement speaks to that. People want to look like a centerfold model with quick and easy solutions and that's where a very large part of the industry comes from when in reality you really dont have to spend much if anything to get fit. If people got fit the old fashion way that actually works then the "fitness" industry wouldn't even be half its' size in revenue.

I dont see how having a watch that takes all these statistics that will only REMIND you that you're gonna have to take old fashioned long term measures of exercise and steady diet to get fit is gonna really fit into that whole picture but we'll see.

Agreed! and for the record- my supplements are vitamins, not pills to "burn fat instantly" or anything. :cool:
 
A phone on contract can cost $100 in the states, and free if it's last years model. That doesn't sound too crazy. But buying a car for $100 does. :)

$100

And who pays for the month by month costs?
In Australia, the iPhone 6 is approx $80-$85 per month for 2 years, plus you also have to pay for the calls knocking your invoice up over $100+ per month. Then if you have a teen that likes to use Facebook or any other data sucking app all day, that invoice can sky rocket. Bill Shock is a scary thing for parents with teenagers.

Now I can get a pretty good loan for a car for 2 years at $85 to $100 per month, for a first car. I could even get a cheap one for $1000 (iPhone 6 64GB)

If you didn't have either, what would you pick first?
If you picked the iPhone then I hope you enjoy Public Transport to get to work etc

I don't claim to know how your contracts work in the USA, but in Australia the parents are responsible for their teenagers phone contracts, unless they buy pre-paid phones, or Pay As You Go. Even then, AFAIK, they still need an adult with ID to purchase the phone. They usually ask for your Driver's License.

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Yes. A $550 phone.

For the iPhone 6?

Well, okay, I would pay that, as it's the cost of an XBox One here in Australia.
An iPhone 6 though is close to $1000. Even the iPhone 4S over here still sells for $450 unlocked, $650 for a 5c
 
Uhh it kinda is the main point because by design that's what most of the features do not just with the Apple Watch but with almost all "smart watches".

Just because it doesn't do what YOU want it exactly to do means it' a "dumb" watch ? Yeah Okay

You sound like the non-familiar first time smartphone users who I've heard call a smart phone "dumb" because it personally doesn't do what they want it to do the way they want it done.

It communicates and transmits extensive information from you "smart" phone which a regular watch cannot do. I guess that's why it's called a "smart" watch. :rolleyes:

He meant dumb like a dumb terminal not just plain dumb and to be honest he's more correct than incorrect.

I don't think we should be surprised at the cool response to the Apple Watch among teens.

Let's face it, when Baby Boomers and Gen X & Y were young, they wore a watch to tell time. That's how they knew when to arrive to meet up.

Today's teens its all about text messages and apps that get them where they need to be. And the clock on their phone is likely synced with an atomic clock at some point, so is more accurate than 99% of watches on sale today, including high end Swiss timepieces.

Keep in mind that even a $20,000 COSC certified Rolex is only accurate to -6 seconds to +4 seconds a day. And only 3% of Swiss watches are COSC certified. By comparison, given the sync to an atomic clock, a typical iPhone won't lose or gain a single second during the entire time you own it.

So the average teen has grown up with a different and better method of telling the time and scheduling meetings and events in their lives.

Also when it comes to losing weight, making healthy choices, all that good stuff, they don't really pay attention to that. It's usually the 30+ age group that need to pay more attention to diet and exercise.

I think that Gen Y and older will be quite interested in an Apple Watch. But I don't think Apple should be crying themselves to sleep if a generation of teens that rarely wear watches don't suddenly jump to it just because Apple made a watch.

Gen Y are millennials, most to virtually all of the kids being polled in this survey would be millennials. I'm a late-ish Gen X I was born in '76 and believe it or not we had cell phones and BBS's and early internet and we communicated that way also, but I'll grant you not in the way people do today.
 
He meant dumb like a dumb terminal not just plain dumb and to be honest he's more correct than incorrect.

Well I'm aware of that because he stated that in the post.

but like I said just because it doesn't operate to his preference doesn't make it a "dumb" watch in the sense of being simply a communication terminal (aka dumb terminal). There are things that the watch does standalone wise that makes it more advanced or "smarter" than a regular watch off those features alone. On top of that the fact that it allows multi gesture feedback and two-way communication along with other features keeps it from being just a dumb terminal. So I would have to disagree on that being correct.

Of course it requires a phone to do alot of its' significant features just like a "smart" phone requires a data or cellular connection to also operate at its' full potential. Though if one were to imply that it is simply a one way communication terminal then I think they should go back and watch the keynote again.
 
Well I'm aware of that because he stated that in the post.

but like I said just because it doesn't operate to his preference doesn't make it a "dumb" watch in the sense of being simply a communication terminal (aka dumb terminal). There are things that the watch does standalone wise that makes it more advanced or "smarter" than a regular watch off those features alone. On top of that the fact that it allows multi gesture feedback and two-way communication along with other features keeps it from being just a dumb terminal. So I would have to disagree on that being correct.

Of course it requires a phone to do alot of its' significant features just like a "smart" phone requires a data or cellular connection to also operate at its' full potential. Though if one were to imply that it is simply a one way communication terminal then I think they should go back and watch the keynote again.

Dumb terminals could do some things stand alone too especially in the the latter years. I agree it should be called a smart watch even if it's still more like a dumb terminal.
 
Dumb terminals could do some things stand alone too especially in the the latter years. I agree it should be called a smart watch even if it's still more like a dumb terminal.

Right but at a certain point, specifically when a terminal has its' own unique processor and can execute commands beyond retrieval, display, and basic input then it can no longer be classified as a "dumb" terminal but rather a "smart" terminal.

If you want to emphasize that analogy then you have to admit that the watch clearly surpasses the requirement of what a "smart" terminal versus a "dumb" one. There's far more than enough independent processing capability in the Apple watch to classify it as a "smart" terminal. There's other "smart" watches that are much less capable than the Apple Watch that you still probably couldn't classify as a "dumb" terminal. It doesn't have to identically replicate the full functionality of the main computer in order to be considered "smart".

The S1 processor alone should qualify it but then you consider the linear actuators and biometric sensors on top of the input processing features of the native software then I dont see how you clearly can't make that distinction.
 
On top of that the fact that it allows multi gesture feedback ...

I haven't been paying much attention.

You just made me realize that the Apple Watch doesn't have a multi-touch screen.

Then again, I don't think Google Wear watches have multi-touch either.

(The screen size doesn't matter. Some of my other smartwatches use two-finger swipes to bring up menus or go back home. And wasn't the iPod nano multi-touch?)

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Actual sales stats and polls kinda says just the opposite. But, continue living in your tiny little bubble.

Tiny bubble i work in have +100million teens.

Like said it's not teens buying it. But teens do dictate what sells in the future. Every company knows and lives by it.
 
Is Apple targeting teens with the watch? Do teenagers even wear watches these days?
No. Not according to my observations. where I work pretty much no one under 30 wears a watch. I still do and I'm 44. I find that I'm late to everything when I don't wear one.
 
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