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iphone and tomtom

Here's what TomTom has to say:

TomTom says could do it if Apple allows to be sold

"Since the SDK became available," Lafargue observes, "some of our engineers tried to put Navigator on the iPhone. And the first tests showed that it worked well for the most part."

As for phones + TomTom taking over the Personal Navigation Device market... I don't think so.

First off, not that many people have a smartphone or interest in buying navigation software vs just buying a GPS off the shelf.

Secondly, not many will pay $100+ for the software. And with the app store, there's going to be no piracy.

If there is any future in smartphone GPS replacement, it'll come when navigation software is included with the phone... such as HTC is reportedly doing with the Diamond on O2 Germany.
 
aGPS or real GPS, too??

OK, so I've read everywhere that the iPhone is assisted-GPS, right. Some people say that the triangulation of cell phone towers is used to speed up the real GPS, while others say that aGPS data stops with the triangulating. I'd imagine that it does have some kinda real GPS if TomTom is developing for it.

The reason I ask is because I am going to get a 3G iPhone one way or another, but I'm not paying for AT&T's service. I'm assuming the aGPS needs some kinda data service to speed up the satellite location process, but I'd just like to make sure that GPS will still function for me on the iPhone without their service (TomTom add-on or not).

Sorry for asking the aGPS question(s) you all hate hearing, but I'd like to hear the truth instead of just guesses. Thanks!!
 
kdarling said:
First off, not that many people have a smartphone or interest in buying navigation software vs just buying a GPS off the shelf.

Secondly, not many will pay $100+ for the software. And with the app store, there's going to be no piracy.
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Man, you are sooooo wrong. GPS for car navigation on iPhone would be a blowout success. A cradle for the car that would launch a GPS mapping program while charging the iPhone? SOLD.

If the software was well-groomed and it was loud enough using the speaker for voice commands, I could see several iPhone owners buying a cheaper software ($100-150) over a dedicated system ($200-up). But it all depends on how good the software is.... TomTom, Garmin (they won't), the people who do Dash Express, etc.
 
grndslm said:
OK, so I've read everywhere that the iPhone is assisted-GPS, right. Some people say that the triangulation of cell phone towers is used to speed up the real GPS, while others say that aGPS data stops with the triangulating. I'd imagine that it does have some kinda real GPS if TomTom is developing for it.

The reason I ask is because I am going to get a 3G iPhone one way or another, but I'm not paying for AT&T's service. I'm assuming the aGPS needs some kinda data service to speed up the satellite location process, but I'd just like to make sure that GPS will still function for me on the iPhone without their service (TomTom add-on or not).

Sorry for asking the aGPS question(s) you all hate hearing, but I'd like to hear the truth instead of just guesses. Thanks!!
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I think you need a data plan for iPhones A-GPS. Otherwise, you're going to get a la carte data charges because I don't think it's possible to do ONLY regular GPS on the iPhone. I might be wrong. No one knows yet for sure. If that's a stickler for ya then don't be one of the nuts who camps out in front of an Apple Store in July.
 
grndslm said:
OK, so I've read everywhere that the iPhone is assisted-GPS, right. Some people say that the triangulation of cell phone towers is used to speed up the real GPS, while others say that aGPS data stops with the triangulating. I'd imagine that it does have some kinda real GPS if TomTom is developing for it.

The reason I ask is because I am going to get a 3G iPhone one way or another, but I'm not paying for AT&T's service. I'm assuming the aGPS needs some kinda data service to speed up the satellite location process, but I'd just like to make sure that GPS will still function for me on the iPhone without their service (TomTom add-on or not).

Sorry for asking the aGPS question(s) you all hate hearing, but I'd like to hear the truth instead of just guesses. Thanks!!
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Doesn't really matter what technolgy it uses --- the money is in getting you to buy a monthly subscription service which includes real time traffic avoidance (which requires a data link to get real time traffic data).
 
grndslm said:
OK, so I've read everywhere that the iPhone is assisted-GPS, right. Some people say that the triangulation of cell phone towers is used to speed up the real GPS, while others say that aGPS data stops with the triangulating. I'd imagine that it does have some kinda real GPS if TomTom is developing for it.

The reason I ask is because I am going to get a 3G iPhone one way or another, but I'm not paying for AT&T's service. I'm assuming the aGPS needs some kinda data service to speed up the satellite location process, but I'd just like to make sure that GPS will still function for me on the iPhone without their service (TomTom add-on or not).

Sorry for asking the aGPS question(s) you all hate hearing, but I'd like to hear the truth instead of just guesses. Thanks!!
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Well, I don't think you're going to be able to purchase an iPhone 3G without paying for AT&T's service.
 
I'm not paying monthly fees -- PERIOD.

And what's wrong with signing a contract and then paying the ETF, again? A 16GB iPhone's worth $475 to me.
 
I'm not against monthly fees, just not fees that are born from the minds of conspirators like Apple & ATT.

WiFi is a great free data service that I know of, and I've heard there are ways to get $20/mo unlimited data on a pay as you go account with the SIM card from GoPhones (Coming from CDMA land, I'm really liking the SIM card thing). I might do this and pay whenever I really need the data most.

Loopholes are awesome, aren't they??
 
arnette said:
Man, you are sooooo wrong. GPS for car navigation on iPhone would be a blowout success.
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Please read my post again. I was responding to the idea that iPhone+GPS would destroy the standalone PND market. I just don't see it. It would take millions of sales to do that.

How many iPhone owners are willing to spend $100-150 for navigation software? And some more for a car dock? Sure, some will. But millions? No. Not even hundreds of thousands.

How many do you think would buy such a thing?

In my case, I bought a Nuvi for about $160 on sale. I leave it mounted in my wife's car, and even if she forgets her phone, she still has the GPS.
 
I read somewhere that TomTom were telling porkys and they have no plans in the pipline for TomTom for the iPhone.

I would like to see TomTom and slingplayer
 
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