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How can people be duped so easily by tech companies that wave the green flag is beyond me especially tech companies who whole business model is to get you to throw away a perfectly good device every year or two. Electronic devices, especially smartphones, consume a lot of resource during manufacturing including minerals that are environmentally taxing ie lithium.

Especially said companies that fight right to repair laws for simple things like a battery replacement.

Furthermore, their customers are largely high income folks and just about EVERY environmental survey will show that high income folks have the HIGHEST carbon footprints.

Come on folks...wake up!

whole business model is to get you to throw away a perfectly good device every year or two.
I am still using iPhone 6, don't know why you think that people throw away phones after 2 years, and even if po=eople upgrade phone every year they are probably giving older phones to kids or parents or selling them, iPhones hold their value better than other phones.

Especially said companies that fight right to repair laws for simple things like a battery replacement.
Battery on every iPhone is replaceable, government doesn't need to pass a law.
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Despite all the blindfolded unicorns here who see critical thinking as negativity, I cannot stress how much I appreciate the voices of reason like yours.

Apple will probably never go modular and as such will never be seen as green to me. Period.
if your definition of green = modular, show me one phone manufacturer that is modular please.
 
This is a great step, but let's not kid ourselves. There are still many resource- and energy-intensive material inputs into those factories. It's great if the final assembly is done with renewable energy, but I'd wager that powering the assembly facility is a fairly small portion of the actual environmental footprint of making a device like an iPhone. Mining, component manufacture, transportation... that stuff is all external to Foxconn.

It's definitely a good thing that companies like Apple are starting to (very belatedly) address their carbon footprint, but every piece of good news like this is offset by the production of millions of quasi-disposable gadget toys -- many of them featured on this very website -- that will wind up in landfill in a year or two.
 
I type this in a 2009 macbook pro still running Snow Leopard. Who says Apple products wear out right away? Of course I'm not running Fortnight or whatever game is the flavor of the moment.

I think Apple is quite serious about this. They seem to be making real strides, rather than just greenwashing things. We need to applaud and give credit for good corporate citizenship while pushing all the key initiatives that still remain to slice emissions.

China realizes it cannot sustain the emissions it has now, both toxic and CO2, and still survive as a country. Right now they are the industrial park of the world. But they aren't remotely stupid about this. They have very real and serious ideas about changing to less polluting sustainable energy sources.

Believe it or not, the demands of end users for corporate responsibility is what made all this start to happen. Let's reward it and appreciate it when they do the right thing, but always keep an agenda for doing even better.
 
Whatever!

Pandering to anyone over anything, especially when it's a politicized, opinion-only issue to begin with, is not a "good thing". Let's ALL join "The Collective" and cease individual thought. Let's mentally, verbally and yes, even scientifically neuter ourselves with "Group Think" in the name of unnecessary knee-jerk reaction not even aimed at a real problem, but one used as a means to frighten and verbally bully people into submission to the loudest mouths in societies aimed at a one-world ideological perspective.
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LMAO! Yeah... Apple has absolutely no [bs] "carbon footprint" whatsoever, huh? I say "bs" because that entire issue is complete bs to begin with. It's very frightening how duped people are becoming as time goes on. Those with serious political motives who claim to have "enlightened world views" are fast becoming the fascists of our time. Even the originator of Greenpeace said he left his own movement because it's no longer a movement of environmental soundness... but rather a movement of world socialism using a "clean planet" as a cover for their real agenda(s). Apple and other tech companies are some of the biggest hypocrites that ever lived.

Another example of their type of hypocrisy would be Bernie Sanders running around for years claiming nobleness for "near-poverty", slandering and bullying wealthy people, claiming moral superiority, and we find out Bernie is a multi-millionaire who gives very little, if any, to ANY charity at all, and who has never, that is EVER, had ANY real jobs in his entire life. On top of that claims to LOVE America yet complains about it all of his waking hours, and spent his wedding (and other assorted occasions) in the Soviet Union at a time when US citizens were not allowed in the Soviet Union. The ONLY citizens of both nations that were allowed visitation were ex-soviet citizens who wanted asylum in the US, and US citizens who denounced their citizenship to the US in order to please the Kremlin and gain entrance as potential anti-American marxists.

My point? Hypocrites, all of them! Doesn't matter the issue. They all make an effort to "appear" to be what they claim so everyone else will fall in line or side with them, yet they live largely in stark opposition to how they claim to live, and are only minor appearances of what they claim to be.
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You are COMPLETELY correct, and we are in complete agreement on that issue. I use Macs for one reason... I LOVE the Mac OS, and Windows is not even pleasurable in comparison... even though I must use Windows in my work at times.

Apple charges exorbitant fees for everything, including memory. Even when paying their outrageous prices for processor upgrades it is now reported by some those processors are throttled by Apple because the fans are not adequate enough to keep the processors cool enough to run at full potential. So technically we cannot even pay Apple outrageous prices for upgrades because the upgrades are somewhat useless.

For what Apple charges for a high-end iMac I can and have built a PC with the same exact or near-exact specs for a little over half of what Apple charges... and yes, that includes a very nice display. On top of that, I can continually upgrade all of those components for years to come if I choose my parts wisely when building the PC.

Now with Apple seemingly going the proprietary route with future systems: soldering procs to motherboards, soldering hard drives to motherboards, and not allowing users to upgrade their own memory, I am sadly yet seriously considering going back to full-time PC usage. If nothing else it is definitely more economically-feasible. On top of that Apple may isolate themselves even further in the future by dropping Intel or other x86-based processors in exchange for notebook/iPad-capable ONLY Apple-branded processors, and if so, then you're losing me... FAST! Apple almost put themselves out of business before Jobs' return by isolating themselves with proprietary systems. I can't go back to those days... I believe it to be foolish to begin with!

Apple builds adequate-to-good systems with style, for sure... but it comes with a near-hefty price in comparison to what the rest of the computing world pays for "progress". On top of that, we have to contend with political /societal issues spouted by Apple that have absolutely NOTHING to do with producing and selling great items to consumers and professionals alike. Another example besides this "I'm soooo Green... please pat me and call me "special"" issue Apple mouths all of the time? Who cares who or what Tim Cook sleeps with? I could care less about his or anyone else's sexual preferences and issues related to such. That is NOT what I pay Apple for!

So yes... you are exactly correct in my estimation, and in my experience.
Yikes, lots of anger and paranoia, but little worth responding to. I’ll just say that with all the people being “duped”, it’s good that you’re the one who can see through it and has the “real agenda” all figured out. And like you say, why should we care who or what you sleep with? It’s not relevant, you be you!
 
If you have enough of it you can sell it on eBay to people who salvage gold from it. I sold a ziplock baggie of old/fried RAM on there once.

And I’m sure that after they removed the only environmentally safe element from the ram chips they took the waste to a responsible recycler
 
And I’m sure that after they removed the only environmentally safe element from the ram chips they took the waste to a responsible recycler

You said "no one will buy your fried RAM" and I just mentioned some people do. I didn't imply anything else. Sorry if that rankled you.
 
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