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Do people you talk to tell you the monthly fee is the reason they haven't bought yet?

  • Yes

    Votes: 53 77.9%
  • No

    Votes: 15 22.1%

  • Total voters
    68
I agree that the overall cost needs to be lower. If I use 100 minutes per month, it's a lot for me - I personally would like to see either a $20 / 200 minute plan, or pay as you go for minutes. The icing would then be that the $30 unlimited data plan included at least the first 200 text messages.

There is still plenty of profit to be made even at that discounted rate, and no, I am not familiar with the AT&T business model.
 
Sprints baseline unlimited individual plan for $70 gives you 450 minutes and unlimited messaging and data, while AT&T's equivalent plan costs you $80, because of the unlimited text which they charge $20 for.

But I am still switching from Sprint to AT&T for the 3G S. Luckily AT&T service in NC is decent compared to what I've heard of other locations.

Actually, it's $90 for the "equivalent" plan on AT&T. $70 for 450 min and data, and $20 for texts..
 
Sorry, having trouble of letting go of my T-Mobile plan with 1000, free nights/weekends, 400 MMS, and unlimited EDGE for $51/month....

The next best deal is the one from Sprint for the PRE, 450, free nights/weekends/mobile-to-mobile, with unlimited data and messaging for $56 (corporate discount).

AT&T newly reduced FAN (our company) still comes to $71 with 400, 1500 text, and unlimited data...

Sorry, AT&T, you're still a rip-off...
 
While I've heard people complaining about the price ATT is charging is primarily from iPhone owners. I've really not experienced people who decided against buying an iPhone for the contract price.

They should, though. The cost is in the data. Whether the charge is reasonable or not is a question separate from whether I'm able/willing to pay $30/mo extra for 2 years. The device charge is a small portion of that overall amount.
 
They should, though. The cost is in the data. Whether the charge is reasonable or not is a question separate from whether I'm able/willing to pay $30/mo extra for 2 years. The device charge is a small portion of that overall amount.

Here is what I do. Every time I am going to stop and get a beverage at an establishment, go buy food at a restaurant, etc. I think to myself, "oh, that $ can go towards *item here* instead." Its $1 a day, and I guarantee most people here waste more than $1 a day on less useful things.
 
What I want to know is why ATT charges higher data plan and higher text prices to iPhone and Blackberry. Is it technically more difficult for iPhone and Blackberry?

I will be more than happy to pay non-iPhone/Blackberry data plan and text fees.

I wonder if Verizon charges higher data plan and text fees to its Blackberry users.
 
What I want to know is why ATT charges higher data plan and higher text prices to iPhone and Blackberry. Is it technically more difficult for iPhone and Blackberry?

I will be more than happy to pay non-iPhone/Blackberry data plan and text fees.

I wonder if Verizon charges higher data plan and text fees to its Blackberry users.

I think its a lot easier for iPhone and Blackberry users to eat up bandwidth than it is for users of other devices, just based on the capabilities of the devices.
 
In the United States, it's all about the free market. And Profits.

Exactly. In business, there is something called a "price point," and it compares volume of sales to price. If you charge $20, you sell 100 million. If you charge $100, you only sell 10 million, and if you charge $200, you will only sell one million. Consumers who ALREADY have an iPhone have indicated to AT&T that they are willing to pay $69.99 per month because they signed a two year contract saying they agreed to the payment and wanted to buy the phone. For people that do NOT yet have an iPhone, those people have indicated to AT&T that they are NOT willing to pay $69.99 per month. To bring those people into AT&T stores and sell them iPhones, AT&T needs to lower the price point for those customers. That is why I suggested $59.99 for NEW customers of the $99 non-S iPhone (which will not have the faster 7.2Mbps speed later this year). Basically, what I'm getting at here is that as AT&T upgrades their network and makes it faster, they should offer the previous/old/slower speed phones at lower monthly data rates to bring in the customers who refuse to spend $69.99 per month.
 
Your right, and thats all profit isn't it? Use your head before spitting out BS like that. You are paying for the minutes and data use. No matter what phone you have, you can subtract $30 from the plan for iPhone data, BUT if you want internet access AT&T still charges around $20/mo, so you save $240 after 2 years by using a non iPhone ($10/mo * 24 months). WOW... AT&T has a network that those costs go to, customer service departments, etc. You act as if every penny AT&T gets goes right into profit and they have no expenses. So no, the phone doesn't cost you $1879, its the SERVICE.

Horrible reasoning on your part.
No, I don't act like that. I'm just saying that people are acting as if they don't have to pay AT&T. The price you're paying for the iPhone is relatively small compared to what you'll be paying AT&T in two years time. That's what I'm saying. People should focus on that.
 
No, I don't act like that. I'm just saying that people are acting as if they don't have to pay AT&T. The price you're paying for the iPhone is relatively small compared to what you'll be paying AT&T in two years time. That's what I'm saying. People should focus on that.

I think the largest chunk of your phone bill goes to paying for the Billions of dollars that AT&T had to pay (or finance) for the millions of cell phone towers, base stations, and network equipment to hook it all up. Last summer, we went on a road trip across the United States (I live in California), and to our surprise, every major highway was lined with cell phone antennas every two miles or so. THOUSANDS of antennas (on just the route that we drove). There must be several million antennas nationwide (the iPhone plan is a nationwide plan), each with a base station (think of a computer server with hundreds of plugs and wires), and all of the antennas connected with cable underground. During the entire (almost) road trip, I had internet access on my iPhone3G. Out in "the middle of no where," nothing but corn fields for hundreds of miles in every direction, I had Edge internet access. Yeah, out in the middle of nowhere. THAT is what the majority of your cell phone bill goes to ... paying for those Billions of dollars in antennas, base stations, underground cables, and network equipment. Now, here's another interesting concept to think about ... how much electricity do you think it takes to keep all of that turned on, 24/7 ?

Now, look at it this way: there are ~15 million iPhone users (that's what someone on MacRumors said. Correct me if I am wrong). So, take that cost and divide it by 15 million (that's for your data service) plus the Blackberry users. For the voice plan, AT&T has 70 million users (this fact I got from Forbes magazine), so don't forget that also. Let's do some simple math:
70mill times $39.99/month (yeah, I know some people pay more) = $2.8 Billion. 20mill (for example) times $30.00 data plan = $600 Million. So, added together, AT&T brings in about $3.4 Billion per month (and that doesn't include text messages, which I'm sure adds about 10 percent on this). Let's say total monthly income is $3.75 Billion. Okay. I'll bet you that nationwide cell phone network probably cost AT&T around $100 Billion (don't forget that people also had to be paid to develop, build, and install it). And, AT&T is also in the process of upgrading Edge antennas to 3G and upgrading 3G from 3.6Mbps to 7.2Mpbs (which likely requires additional network equipment and capacity). $100 Billion divided by $3.75 Billion is 27 months (and this calculation does not include AT&T employees, engineers, customer service, research and development, crews that repair and maintain the network, advertising, and so forth. So, lets extend that 27 months to three years. Okay, well ... the Edge network was there three years ago ... but iPhone income was not, and AT&T likely did not have 70 million voice users back then. Texting hadn't become trendy yet. So, basically, we are paying today for the equipment that we are using today ... and AT&T is also spending that money to upgrade the remaining Edge antennas to 3G, and will be upgrading the urban 3G from 3.6Mbps to 7.2Mbps beginning this fall.
So, here is the bottom line: We could pay only $20 per month for data, but there won't be as much money to continue to upgrade Edge antennas to 3G, and there won't be as much money to upgrade the 3.6Mbps 3G to 7.2Mbps 3G. You have to decide: low price and no network upgrades, or pay the current price and the network will continue to be upgraded.
 
I've been reading on other threads that AT&T might reduce the monthly fee by $10 after your 24-month contract has expired if you don't renew. Are those just rumors, or was there some type of news article? And, btw, we shouldn't have to be paying the extra $10 per month to pay for our subsidy once our contract is up.
 
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