Other iPhone battery life scandal. Would you ever buy another iPhone again?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Appurushido, Dec 21, 2017.

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Apples throttling will..

  1. Make me change phone manufacturer

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  2. Annoy me but they still preferable to others

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  3. I don’t mind them tampering

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    36.1%
  1. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    This is something I actually question. Even for those who are the minority on a tech forum and threaten to leave Apple, will they abandon the iPhone/iOS and adjust to the android platform, because they're 'mad' at the throttling? To me, that's a major step away from something into another dimension of android that I don't see others actually doing.

    Some use android and iOS, but the majority only use one platform. My question is, how many actually will leave Apple based on this one issue alone or is it something there just threatening because they're upset at the fact of the throttling with Apple? Thats not an easy decision to make.
     
  2. GrumpyMom macrumors G3

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    Outside of the US things are vastly different, so I’ll assume you and I are talking about what’s going on in our USA, where iMessage keeps so many in the Apple fold.

    I’m thinking if Google ever gets their stuff in order and commits to a messaging system that is as robust and good as iMessage is and can somehow make it work seamlessly with iMessage and gets serious about Androidwear, lots more average users will switch.

    And not because they’re angry at Apple, (which a lot of people are because it’s been all over the news now and heavily sensationalized in click bait headlines so even my kid’s friends are chatting about it).

    Aside from THAT, I’m coming across a lot of interest and curiosity in my S8+ this past year, just because people think it’s beautiful. I’m honest about the lag I’ve experienced on it and how I hate the curved edges and I’ve had Apple users shrug that off and name numerous struggles they’ve had with their iPhones and admire the edges despite my warning them the edges are impractical in actual use and ownership. They like the built in filters that come with the camera. They’re surprised and intrigued that it records in stereo audio.

    The enthusiasm for Apple is reserved for iMessage and Apple Watches, which are popular where I live. The ecosystem is important to a lot of people, but a lot of people have also made the move away from Apple laptops and even iPads to the cheaper Chromebooks. It’s what our kids are using now in school. The ecosystem might be fracturing a bit for some families.

    Apple might have made a mistake holding onto the iPhone 6/6Plus build for so many years, if people can be drawn in so much by the Samsung’s looks, as they seem to be when they admire mine. Then when they finally did introduce something new and exciting, they priced it above a lot of people’s comfort zones and removed Touch ID instead of keeping it on and adding the option of Face ID.

    It confuses people that Samsung advertises multiple biometric ways to unlock a phone and Apple not only just offers one biometric method but took away one that was liked and trusted. It confuses some people that Samsung still has a 3.5 mm headphone jack and Apple removed theirs.

    When I say “it confuses people” I’m referring to snippets overheard from people phone shopping at the stores and on stray comments to me about my two phones. I can’t posdibl extrapolate from such instances with any accuracy. But if, in hindsight, we see Apple actually does end up hemorrhaging a noticeable amount of business, we can look back on such observations and speculate.
     
  3. naturalstar macrumors 6502a

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    I had already started removing my rose-colored glasses with Apple before this incident. I wasn’t thrilled by their keynote. Growing prices with little value. Their recent X hardware issues and general software issues have been a cause for concern with me. I also had already suspected that they use software fixes to cover hardware problems (unresponsive touch screen in cold weather), but couldn’t prove it. A fix is a fix, right? So I supported Apple with expectations that they will correct their software (and internal processes) in reasonable time. They are good about pushing software fixes after all.

    But this... well, as someone who upgraded their 6+ because I thought I really needed to based on my phone’s performance and problems, this news has really left a really bad taste with me. While I can’t say that my current 8+ will be my last iPhone, I don’t see myself making any changes until I know what Apple will do regarding this situation.

    As for Apple as a whole, while I’m able to compartmentalize their various products, I’m doing a wait and see for now. I had planned on purchasing a new iPad, a new MacBook Pro, and the Plus version of the X in this coming year. With the possible exception of the iPad, I’m going to hold off to see how Apple will handle this situation.

    In the meantime, Android hadn’t been on my radar since I left them in 2014, but going forward I’ll take some time to educate myself to see if it can even begin to be a future possibility. No more blind focus on the iPhone. I know how to detangle myself from a system and I already use multiple operating systems now. Not worried about privacy either. I was a victim of the Equifax breach. Your information can be obtained if you’ve ever given it to any entity. Not sure if I’ll stay put with the iPhone, become someone who switches between iOS and Android, or change altogether, but I’ll know all of my options a lot better going forward either way.

    I’ve never been an absolute fan girl or an apologist/evangelist, but I was an enthusiast. At this point, Apple is firmly “just like everyone else” for me. We’ll see what the future brings.
     
  4. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    I want to add, obviously I can't speak for tech enthusiasts alike and every day iPhone consumers, but the majority around me are not even mentioning the throttling or any issues there of. I think the media is doing exactly what what they intend to do, is bloat the issue with the throttling, but I feel the average iPhone consumer doesn't either care or want to care as long as there iPhone performs to their 'standards'.

    Also, a lot of iPhone consumers don't pay attention to tech media, even though Apple makes headlines regularly because of what type of company they are. But given this throttling issue, it will fade just like the Note 7 did with the battery related issues where it's not really discussed as much as it was in the beginning.

    The IPhone X is not meant for everyone. What I mean by that, is that it's not going to appeal to everybody, because not everybody Will care what it has to offer, unless they just want the status of having the latest iPhone. Apple offering the iPhone 8 was meant as a secondary option for familiarity a similar design incorporating touch ID.

    The reality is, Apple has shifted their focus to Face ID with their future. You have to look at this company's history and realize they're not about offering customization and choices are limited in the sense of features.

    My perspective is that it does not confuse people between Samsung and Apple. Why? Because A Samsung user doesn't really care what an iPhone has the offer or vice versa because they're only committed to that specific phone/platform. Unless you have somebody that uses multiple phones from other competitors.

    For example, I can pick up three iPhone users right now that I know anecdotally that don't care what Samsung has to offer with their product line and then I can take another three Samsung smart phone owners Who don't care what the iPhone has the offer or why they do things the way they do. Because the only care about the phone they are using, not the competitor.
     
  5. Jimmy James macrumors 601

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    The more I think about this issue the more I realize I'd given Apple a lot of goodwill. And it's gone now.

    I was annoyed by MacBook pricing and the increasing inability for an owner to service or upgrade those machines. I wonder if Apple is slowing those based on battery health...

    Now this seeming planned obsolescence under the guise of power management.

    I have no loyalty left. I would actually look forward to a new underdog being the "don't be evil" upstart.
     
  6. BarracksSi Suspended

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    This “planned obsolescence under the guise of battery management” argument would hold water if the batteries weren’t replaceable — which can be done by Apple, by a person at a mall kiosk, or even by yourself (which I did with my iPhone 4 a few years back).
     
  7. mtneer macrumors 68030

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    There are numerous instances of Apple refusing to replace batteries, even if the customer offers to pay for it, as long they decide it passes their own in-house diagnostic check, over riding any concerns the customer may have. And Apple actively campaigns against using any third party services under the threat of bricking Touch ID or other functions due to possible non-genuine components.
     
  8. Appurushido thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Battery-gate is all over the headlines. Does this affect your view on buying another iPhone in 2018 or later? I have an iPhone 6+, then batter issues started to happen. Prompted me to buy an iPhone 7+ when I was truly waiting on the 10 anniversary (iPX) phone. My cycle was going to be three years than the normal two, but it was gutted do to battery performance. Anyone else affected by this?
     
  9. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    No.

    Apple has always been this way, don't know why people think it's something new. It's not.

    My decision not to upgrade and to go to a different manufacturer is based entirely on the fact I don't like how the new phones look.
     
  10. iOSUser7 macrumors 6502a

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    @Mods can we just create a single thread and merge all those « battery » and « Apple is evil » threads into it ? Thanks.
     
  11. DNichter macrumors G3

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    Not at all. They tried to do the right thing by prolonging the life of phones with a bad battery, but they really should have just let them die.
     
  12. joeblow7777 macrumors 603

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    Imagine the s**tstorm that would have caused over planned obsolescence. Until Apple invents a device that never ages, never wears, and is always able to keep up with newer and more demanding software forever, people are going to complain about how Apple is screwing them.
     
  13. Mlrollin91 macrumors G5

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    I hearby start a petition to ban users that start a new thread with anything “-gate”.


    As to the thread. Simple answer. No.
     
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    BugeyeSTI macrumors 68030

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    Answer. No.

    What I find funny is your iPhone 6 working with 100% cpu capacity would still be slow on modern iOS versions... Some act like their old phone would somehow be saved and an absolute pleasure without being throttled.
     
  15. tonybarnaby macrumors 68000

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    We desperately need new and affordable battery tech. Lithium ion doesn't cut it anymore, but the alternative is way too expensive.
     
  16. CTHarrryH macrumors 68000

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    NO NO NO still think Apple is the best company
     
  17. newellj macrumors 604

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    Really? *Yawn.* So what? I mean, it's just a phone or a computer. It's NOT a religion. It's not my spouse or kids. Get a grip?
     
  18. Makayla macrumors regular

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    Speaking for myself, yes, a little bit. My opinion of Apple has suffered some PR damage that may not be completely undone.

    Interesting enough it is not a deal breaker to me. The notch is.
     
  19. actcyclist macrumors 6502

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    Yes, it's definitely affected my trust in Apple and particularly the forced "upgrades" the company sends out.
    I'll wait to see how the regulators in UK, Australia treat it as I trust them more than any company.
     
  20. bnmcj1 macrumors 6502

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    Yes, my view is changed and I will not buy iPhone X v2.
     
  21. Miss_Mac macrumors member

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    Yes, but it is not only the reason why I am disappointed with :apple:.
     
  22. Martyimac macrumors 68000

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    That is where I am at also. 2017 has been fraught with  missteps, IMHO.
     
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