Other iPhone battery life scandal. Would you ever buy another iPhone again?

Apples throttling will..

  • Make me change phone manufacturer

    Votes: 41 22.8%
  • Annoy me but they still preferable to others

    Votes: 74 41.1%
  • I don’t mind them tampering

    Votes: 65 36.1%

  • Total voters
    180

Appurushido

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After Apple finally admitting to the iPhone battery scandal, what's your take on Apple? Would you still stick with them? Move on to other things? Refund your phone if you are withing the return window?

At this rate, there could me more things that aren't discovered yet, like Apple (possibly) bricking phones randomly, or other shenanigans that are Easter eggs in the making. My older iPhone 6+ felt so sluggish after the second year. None of my previous phones have ever done that (4 and 5). Guess Apple found a way (secretly) for you to spend more money with the company.

I'm at a loss. I recently bought a MacBook Pro as well. Now I'm worried. Product prices are rising fast, and seems like you can't go without AppleCare/AC+ (aside from the EU people) for any of their products. They have an iron grip on their fan base.
 

AppleFan91

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Sep 11, 2012
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It has no impact on my purchasing decisions honestly. I totally understand why they did it too. Could it have been more transparent and handled better? Sure. Is it deal breaking? No. I upgrade my iPhone annually so this is a non-issue for me. However, hopefully it leads Apple to be more transparent with stuff like this in the future.

Also, let's not pretend like each and every alternative option hasn't had their own "scandal" as well. No corporation is perfect, that's why they don't deserve our loyalty. As long as Apple continues to make great products, they get my money. When that stops, they don't. This "scandal" doesn't move that needle for me.
 

Vermifuge

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Your battery has reached EOL after 500 cycles... My 6 Plus is over 750... the battery should have been replaced. so no... not a big deal. just get a new battery

Really, most people upgrade after 18 months - 2 years any way. If you plan to keep it 3 years just get a new battery after 18 months.
 

Small White Car

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Aug 29, 2006
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Guess Apple found a way (secretly) for you to spend more money with the company.

https://daringfireball.net/2017/12/iphone_battery_throttling

Daring Fireball said:
If older iPhones suffer upon being updated ... to such a degree that the users conclude they now need to buy a new phone, would not the most likely and logical result be that it would inspire many of them to switch to Android (or Windows Phone, or anything) rather than to buy another iPhone?

Pretty much that. The idea that "making iPhones work badly" would lead to more iPhone sales is goof-balls.
 

ssl0408

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Sep 22, 2013
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It just means that I won’t be updating my iPhone X next year to iOS 12, if I decide to keep it for more than one year.
 

JackieInCo

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I will.

I was using my 6S+ where the battery capacity was around 70%. I didn't notice any slowdowns and it just seemed as good as it always was. i replaced the battery about a month ago and the speed didn't improve, it's the same iPhone as it was when I bought it two years ago this month.

I have a month old 7+ now that I'm using as my daily.
 
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Hal~9000

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I’m lucky and bought an 8+ With 11.1.2 which, according to Apple, doesn’t have the new throttling virus “feature” yet. I also don’t plan on updating my 8+ any further to ensure it maintains the same blazing fast performance as the day I first bought it even if the battery wears down a little over time.

Hoping I can keep the 8+ for 4 to 6 years (or more *fingers-crossed*) with a little help of a battery replacement along the way :)
 

KingslayerG5

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Only Macs but I'm kinda forced to use iOS because Apple Maps makes a good alternative to Google Maps for work. I have always been a multi-platform user, so I don't really care. Since Nintendo vs Sega back in the mid-1990's, I used both.

If Apple Maps was available on Android, I wouldn't be using or buying another iPhone though. Android does most of what I need. MacBooks are the best and most long-lasting Apple products. That's Apple's roots. Desktop computing. Then iPads. Their iPhones are their cookie-cutters and bread & butter business.

This scandal won't really change most people here already ingrained with Apple products and ecosystem. It's not going to change iJustine or Jonathan Morrison's opinion with Apple overnight. They upgrade every year, so they could care less. Slaves to Apple and planned obsolescence.

Apple is ticking many of us off though but it's not really surprising. I used to contemplate if I liked Apple more or Samsung? For a time, Samsung. Then I preferred Apple. Now it seems like I prefer Samsung more again. Note7 was a debacle but at least Samsung was honest about it. Wasn't intentional or common. They didn't mean to hurt anyone. Apple is deliberate.

Slow down iPhones to speed up your need to buy next one. All that crap about battery degradation is hogwash. All things wear and tear. Apple is speeding it up. It's deliberate plain and simple. And what's so maddening about it is Apple admitted it and will continue to throttle down iPhones in the future.

This is why the smartphone market has become stagnant. Others look to Apple to innovate. That's not right. Apple moves in a snail pace. Copy a 2-3 year old feature found on Android and save that feature for the next iPhone. Apple doesn't want to make the perfect iPhone. They want money every single year.

I may buy another iPhone or Apple product again for my work but I lost total respect for Apple. Apple are like crooked politicians led by Tim Crook. Never trust them. This is deliberate deception.
 

Makayla

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Dec 20, 2016
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I keep my phone for 3 to 3.5 years and luckily my last 2 iphones were not affected until after I retired them. I will keep a close eye on my new iPhone and if it slows down too much before at least 3 years from now I will go for Android next time.

While I like iPhones I am not an Apple fan girl and do not give them unearned loyalty.
 

Relentless Power

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Jul 12, 2016
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Everyone is going to view this differently. But as someone as alluded to, a large majority likely upgrade within two/three years. I upgrade annually as it is, so I have no concern about the battery life or any after affects. This would not impact my future purchases with an iPhone, perhaps for some it will.
 

tonybarnaby

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I’m lucky and bought an 8+ With 11.1.2 which, according to Apple, doesn’t have the new throttling virus “feature” yet. I also don’t plan on updating my 8+ any further to ensure it maintains the same blazing fast performance as the day I first bought it even if the battery wears down a little over time.

Hoping I can keep the 8+ for 4 to 6 years (or more *fingers-crossed*) with a little help of a battery replacement along the way :)
Same boat for me. How do I refuse any future updates?
 

thesaint024

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Nov 14, 2016
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No, I'm not an apologist. This was a non-transparent solution to an un-winnable situation. Bad battery life and slower or worse battery life and faster? People like to beat up on Apple right now, but either way, the result isn't ideal. Yes, they clearly should've just said this was what they were doing. Not sure why they were not forthcoming. You need a new phone/battery either way if the battery is that degraded.

I had an old 4 I was keeping as a backup while ago, and it was working fine until I did a major update. I reverted it back and continued using it. But that told me regardless of the battery's health, I would need a replacement soon because the OS kept getting more feature/bloat filled and I wouldn't have the latest security updates. Inevitable that old iPhones will be unusable for one reason or another.

But to answer, hell no, this is not enough reason for me to move on. All of these manufacturers or developers are doing really bad things. I can't get outraged, just choose the lesser of evils. Moving on would mean there is a better alternative in terms of transparency or more ethics in a company. When you find one, I'll definitely consider moving on.
 

macTW

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After Apple finally admitting to the iPhone battery scandal, what's your take on Apple? Would you still stick with them? Move on to other things? Refund your phone if you are withing the return window?

At this rate, there could me more things that aren't discovered yet, like Apple (possibly) bricking phones randomly, or other shenanigans that are Easter eggs in the making. My older iPhone 6+ felt so sluggish after the second year. None of my previous phones have ever done that (4 and 5). Guess Apple found a way (secretly) for you to spend more money with the company.

I'm at a loss. I recently bought a MacBook Pro as well. Now I'm worried. Product prices are rising fast, and seems like you can't go without AppleCare/AC+ (aside from the EU people) for any of their products. They have an iron grip on their fan base.
No change in Apple view. Very few people are actually experiencing the supposed slow down. Many people claim their phones slow down when they don’t, for some reason people are sucked in to placebos like that.

This shouldn’t change someones view on Apple.
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In my mind there is no scandal. Well, except for the fact that there are people trying to make it a scandal.
This.
 

Miss_Mac

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Nov 22, 2017
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Yes, I will. And now that I have some knowledge of battery life and replacement as per Apple's recent confession, I am better prepared to deal with the situation as it comes. Doesn't look like I'll upgrade for at least another 18 months now given some personal things that have cropped up; but when I do it will either be a battery replacement or the cheapest iPhone that works for my usage and needs.
 
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iMi

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Completely overblown. I agree, this is not a scandal. There should be a notice to customers though. It wouldn't hurt to know that an aging battery may be causing performance issues. A simple pop up informing you that while you're battery is fine, its capacity has diminished enough to reduce performance during peak demands. To restore full performance, have your battery serviced by authorized Apple service provider. Done.

On the other hand, you have two options. Phone shutting down or worse. Or have the processor clock speed temporarily lowered to get you through whatever task you're doing. I think the second option is much better.

I am not too worried, but it's good to know this now. Next time I may service a battery instead of buying a new phone (something Apple was clearly hoping to avoid).
 
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