Maybe they are competitively priced, but there's little innovation from US mobile operators.I find those small regional carriers more innovative and competitive than the big ones.
Is T-Mobile really as left for dead as people make it sound on this board?
That's the most idiotic thing I've heard all week.
I don't understand what you mean? They made a gamble with doing 3G of AWS and lost (mainly because they had no alternative).
Now that most people have migrated to 3G they can afford to offload some 1900 2G spectrum and convert it to 3G and start taking some AWS 3G spectrum and convert it to LTE.
While a little behind - they aren't "dead" by any means. I think once they get everything up and running you will see some people switch. Their HSPA+ 42 will make a much better fallback for LTE then either AT&T's or Verizon's slower 3G.
You do not need to unlock an AT&T handset to work with the Straight Talk SIM card. I'm using a factory unlocked iPhone 4S on Straight Talk, but it's not a requirement. However, if I go overseas, I can pop in a local carrier's SIM without issue.
Straight Talk is an MVNO that purchases wholesale access from AT&T, T-Mobile USA, and Sprint. They sell AT&T compatible SIMs and T-Mobile compatible SIMs. In addition, they sell a number of handsets run on the AT&T and Sprint networks if you don't want to bring your own device.
Here's my cost analysis that I just did on another site:
Straight Talk "Bring Your Own Phone" SIM card, $45/month no-contract. Unlimited talk, unlimited text, and "unlimited" data (which anecdotally has a soft cap around 2GB followed by an allegedly "you're a data hog" message). Just buy the unlocked retail iPhone 4S at Apple.com for $649 plus the one-time $15 for the SIM card. Your phone will be connecting to AT&T's cellular towers. If you're in an area with HSPA+, you'll have the faster connection. Total cost of ownership over 24 months: $1744
By contrast, here how Cricket breaks down. Partially subsidized handset $500 and $55/month no contract. Total cost of ownership over 24 months: $1820.
And good ol' AT&T? Subsidized handset $199, $36 activation fee, $120/month on a 2-year contract (unlimited talk $70, unlimited text $20, 3GB data $30). Total cost of ownership over 24 months: $3115.
Monthly cost of ownership (over 24 months):
Straight Talk: $72.67
Cricket: $75.83
AT&T: $129.79
You can knock off a couple of bucks a month from Straight Talk if you prepay for several months of service in advance.
Another benefit: the Straight Talk micro SIM works fine in an iPad if you need cellular data in a pinch.
Any T-Mobile thread involves a lot of people throwing out that T-Mobile is a dead company. Within a year and a half, LTE will blanket HSPA+ 42. Then T-Mobile is way behind.
I find those small regional carriers more innovative and competitive than the big ones.
Meh - the next iPhone will support HSPA+ 42. I wouldn't knock it until you try it. The one thing T-Mobile does well is provide solid backbones to their towers so you can actually use their speed. Once the iPhone can work in the DC metro area on T-Mobile I'll probably switch.
Not to mention it's cheaper too.
I've looked up the current AT&T family plan rates for unlimited talk, unlimited text and 2-3GB of cellular data. That's a service level that's comparable to what one would receive from Straight Talk or Cricket. The analysis is relevant when you look at similar service levelsWhat if you have a family plan? I pay ~$110-120 for 2 iPhones, 450min, no txt plan, 250mb data. If I we switch over Straight Talk or Cricket, your calculations will go 2X up, is this assumption correct?
Thanks in advance!
I don't understand what you mean? They made a gamble with doing 3G of AWS and lost (mainly because they had no alternative).
Now that most people have migrated to 3G they can afford to offload some 1900 2G spectrum and convert it to 3G and start taking some AWS 3G spectrum and convert it to LTE.
While a little behind - they aren't "dead" by any means. I think once they get everything up and running you will see some people switch. Their HSPA+ 42 will make a much better fallback for LTE then either AT&T's or Verizon's slower 3G.
Except AT&T and Verizon already have their 3G "fallback" networks built out while T-Mobile is effectively starting from scratch. Their capex spending must be massive for a carrier of their size. No wonder they can't find anyone to buy them.
I don't understand what you mean? They made a gamble with doing 3G of AWS and lost (mainly because they had no alternative).
Now that most people have migrated to 3G they can afford to offload some 1900 2G spectrum and convert it to 3G and start taking some AWS 3G spectrum and convert it to LTE.
While a little behind - they aren't "dead" by any means. I think once they get everything up and running you will see some people switch. Their HSPA+ 42 will make a much better fallback for LTE then either AT&T's or Verizon's slower 3G.
What matters is the carrier ID not which network they piggy-back on. Thus, SIM-locked AT&T phones will only work on networks which are labelled AT&T. That is the point of SIM-locking, that the phone cannot be used with another carrier, be it a virtual one or not. AT&T could of course create a virtual carrier as a second brand and allow AT&T SIM-locked phones to operate on that.Does that actually work with an AT&T iphone, or does one need an unlocked iPhone 4S? Do they just resell AT&T's network?
Wrong.Prepaid?
A monthly plan is postpaid, you get a bill for it. This is a phone with a very short contract period (one month) but it is not a prepaid phone.