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iPhone Contracts, Different Outer Design?

Evangelion said:
It's not welded in. There's a tray for the SIM-card. It was clearly shown during the keynote.
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Ok, that's good. I was starting to freak out a bit. It's the long slot we see near the top on the side of the device, right?
http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/specs.html

Hmmm... Silly question, but does anyone know whether a BlueTooth-enabled, 3G phone could be used as a modem for the iPhone (the way some phones can be used as modems for laptops, I mean)? It seems like that could be a way of adding 3G to the iPhone for people who really need it. Or the ability to connect the iPhone to the internet in a zone that only has CDMA networks. It's complicated, yes, but it could work with a bit of hacking, right? Maybe?
 
DrFrankTM said:
Ok, that's good. I was starting to freak out a bit. It's the long slot we see near the top on the side of the device, right?
http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/specs.html
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Nope, that's the volume up/down-button. The SIM-tray is on the top of the phone: http://taiwan.cnet.com/sharedmedia/Computer channel/feature/2007macworld/iphone_04.jpg

Hmmm... Silly question, but does anyone know whether a BlueTooth-enabled, 3G phone could be used as a modem for the iPhone (the way some phones can be used as modems for laptops, I mean)? It seems like that could be a way of adding 3G to the iPhone for people who really need it.
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I really don't see the point. And I have never seen that feature in other phones. You can use the phone as a modem, yes, but to use other phone as a modem, while using the iPhone as a client? IMO, no.
 
Raveny said:
In January I thought Apple will increase capacity up to 16GB... why is there still a 100$ difference between both iPhone models when the 4GB nano and 8GB nano have a 50$ difference? It's the same NAND memory :confused:
But very unlikely...
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What does pricing of various Nano-models have to do with pricing of various iPhone-models?
 
my guess is different laser engraving. enough of a change to justify a different "case design", but not really anything different. just a carrier laser engraved for europe. nothing to see here folks, move along... move along.
 
They're probably making it a flip phone for the japanese market :D

No, actually I have no clue how and why they would change the case. But it makes sense to have slightly different hardware components for the different markets.
 
MrCrowbar said:
But it makes sense to have slightly different hardware components for the different markets.
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Actually, it doesn't. I'm still hoping that the "different case" simply refers to 6G iPod. we are due for an update, and it simply makes sense to use the iPhone as the basis of the new iPod.
 
Belly-laughs said:
It´s not another iphone, it´s the 6G iPod.
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Yeah - I'm feeling that! It sounds like the more plausible explanation. And the timing would be about right for a 6G introduction. That way Apple keep the buzz going with their fantastic new touch interface for the whole of 2007!

Hopefully that'll mean us folk here in Europe will be presented with a double-whammy in Q4 - 6G iPod and iPhone going on sale almost simultaneously :D

Can't wait!

RodC
 
3g camera

I think it's just a minor redesign to acomodate the 3G front camera somewhere...
 
Another toy to play with.

I have been trying to control myself. I already have 2 working ipods (an old b/w 20gb and a 5g/80gb). I have a PSP to play with, a Creative Vision W (60gb) to also see movies and music and a Zion to plug my ipod in and view on a 7inch screen. I have a DLO docking bay attached to my 32inch LCD HDTV so I can stream my ipod to my TV. I don't have a :apple: TV . I do want an iphone and finished my 2 yr contract with T-moble and am going month-to-month at this time. I really wish they would put out some information on plans so I can see what I am up against.
 
pagansoul said:
I do want an iphone and finished my 2 yr contract with T-moble and am going month-to-month at this time. I really wish they would put out some information on plans so I can see what I am up against.
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Im sort of in the same boat. I'm on 3 network, but I started an 18month contract in March, so finishes september 2008.... by that time, the iPhone im hoping should be lower in price, but I wish we knew who the network carrier in the UK is.
 
kingofkolt said:
Will they please post a MBP rumor for once? :D
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There, you have your MBP rumor now. I would love it if this "new outer case design" had the words "for the MacBook Pro" after it. The MBP is nice, but is in dire need of a snazzy facelift...and a new keyboard!

As for the iPhone, I swear that I saw in an ad somewhere that it had a white case. I can't remember where and now I'm questioning myself if it was a dream. But I'd love to have a black or white option as well as get 3G. As I stated elsewhere, if Apple is going to tout the first full-feature web browser on a cell phone, they need the bandwidth to support it, and EDGE is just too slow to fit that bill.
 
If it's for a 3G iPhone, would the antenna size/placement be different? Wouldn't that mean the black material used in the lower rear case would also need to be different?

Are the wireless telecommunciations standards different in the US and Europe? Would selling a phone in Europe require/enable any (even minor) design changes?

Does "different market" necessarily imply a geographical market - couldn't it also mean a different target market within the US? (The iPhone has a "pro" look to it, perhaps a different styling might be necessary to market to a younger demographic?)

No answers.. just questions. Being a Mac aficionado is a bit like watching a series of Lost..
 
Video!

An iPhone with a different outer design, eh? Well I doubt it will be very different, just a little different. So I'm going to guess the camera will be on the other side, pointed toward the caller. [Better yet, two cameras, a small one toward the caller, a better one away.] This would allow video calling, popular outside the USA. And of course this also implies 3G, also popular outside the USA...

oo! oo! I just thought of this! Didn't Apple recently patent a little twisty thing that would allow a camera to point in either direction? At the time the implication was it would be for the iSight on the lids of MacBooks, but it would work on an iPhone nicely! -Mike from myallo.com
 
Not likely 2nd Gen

:rolleyes: Not very likely a second gen of the iPhone.
With the iPhone coming out middle to end of June, the phone would be about 90 days only on the market before this new one comes out.

I highly dougth it.

This may be an international version possibly with 3G and what ever Japan uses (don't know what it is).

It can also be the 6G iPod.

But not likely a 2nd gen of the iPhone.
 
I am confused.

I thought both Foxconn and Quanta are Taiwanese companies.

If so, why are iPods and iPhones being made in China?

Isn't Taiwan enemy to China?
 
wildmannz said:
I can't imagine that they would change the exterior for appearances sake.
I CAN imagine that they would make a different form-factor like the nano-esque version that has been mentioned.
Could this possibly be it?

As with all rumors - taken with more than just a grain of salt.
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With you for the most part, however ..... not all countries share the same sense of what is pretty or cool. Different strokes for different folks.

Maybe this version is going to a market that has been difficult to crack in the past.
 
Evangelion said:
What does pricing of various Nano-models have to do with pricing of various iPhone-models?
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Ask Steve, he was the one that added the price of an iPod to the price of a phone to come up with the 499 and 599 at the keynote.

If he used that, then the price difference is fair game.
 
TeddyBlack said:
Is it not possible that, if this is for the european market, at least for the UK, the different casing design could be to incorporate access to the sim card, as opposed to the US version where it is supposed to be welded in?(http://www.beforeview.info/iphone/2.html). As from previous posts, the mobile phone market in the UK is different from the US, in that people are very used to being able to take pretty much any sim card and put it into any phone. People are just used to a lot more freedom when it comes to taking their phone to another service provider. I still can't believe Apple are thinking of having the iphone tied to just one provider in the UK; as far as I know, there isn't a phone on the UK market that is tied solely to one.
I just think, if true, the more likely reason for a slightly different designed casing would be for something like this, rather than a different model?. But then, what do I know......
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I'm pretty sure they will treat the EU market as a whole rather than target the UK alone. We all share the same 3g standard anyways and are bound to have converging tariffs by EU laws (as far as EU roaming is concern, i.e.)

Besides, I haven't been in the UK in a year or so, I lived there for many many years (1998-2005) and always had my phone locked. First Cellnet, then Singlepoint/O2 (worst ever!!!), then Vodafone and finally Orange, and all the mobiles phones came sim-locked for that provider.

I think one2one/t-mobile or even 3 are sim-free but as I said, I never had an unlocked phone.
 
EagerDragon said:
:rolleyes: Not very likely a second gen of the iPhone.
With the iPhone coming out middle to end of June, the phone would be about 90 days only on the market before this new one comes out.
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And not even close to coming out in Europe.

This either means 3G, or a 6B iPod. Either way it's good news.

MA.

(Unless of course there is a fatal flaw with the current design and Apple are sending out emergancy orders for a new design :eek: Doesn't seem at all likely.)
 
I'd imagine that a "different outer design" (if that's even true) for, say, a European iPhone might just indicate a slightly less thin casing to hold a larger battery... to deal with 3G's greater power usage.

If it's significantly different, then I'd place my bets on a 6G iPod instead.
 
Evangelion said:
Nope, that's the volume up/down-button. The SIM-tray is on the top of the phone: http://taiwan.cnet.com/sharedmedia/Computer channel/feature/2007macworld/iphone_04.jpg



I really don't see the point. And I have never seen that feature in other phones. You can use the phone as a modem, yes, but to use other phone as a modem, while using the iPhone as a client? IMO, no.
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Ok, thanks. Well, the point was that the iPhone is as close as it gets (for now) to an OS X UMPC. I, for one, would like to have OS X in my pocket all the time. Wi-Fi is great... when it's available. If I'm on the go in a rural area (or anywhere I don't have Wi-Fi available), it'd be nice to be able to connect the iPhone to a 3G network.

Oh! Well... I guess I'll have to wait and see.
 
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