iPhone Demand Waning?

[GTiPhone]

Thread titles like this are nothing but annoying to see hovering around the forum. Hopefully this disappears soon...although posting in it causes the opposite of what I'm hoping for.

Demand Waning? WTF? Not any more than the demand for any other Apple product is "waning". Once there are enough units for everyone who wants one, the demand doesn't go down, it just becomes satisfied. Normal supply/demand effect.

 

[ctakim]

Apple releases their numbers

So on Wednesday, Apple released their numbers stating that in the last 30 hours of the quarter, 270,000 iPhones were sold (what the heck is wrong with AT&T?). Apple also sold a ton of Macs and iPods and blew past the analysts earning estimates for the quarter. IMHO 270,000 is a nice number, not too high, not too low and still pretty darn impressive. This number will only go up obviously and I would say it was a heck of a launch.

Hey everybody, get your feet back on the ground!

 

[Yankees 4 Life]

thank god this thread is now bunk... way to go apple!

 

[tribe3]

Well 600 bucks plus a monthly fee is a pretty steep price for a lot of people; especially those who would like to have it the most (teenagers). I see my daughter and son (19 and 20 years old), and all their friends just love it, but they're all broke - going to college and working -

The iPhne is not like the playstation 3 or xbox; there are only 3 gaming consoles that are worth having. There are hundreds of cheaper cells out there so the only thing that they are missing is the bling factor.

I wasn't going to buy an iPhone because I don't really need all the goodies but I went to the applestore for some software and when I saw it I felt the impulse. I love it, and I use mail and safari more than I thought I would; plus I don't carry my old big as a brick iPod anymore. (Google maps and directions are a plus I didn't expect to be so good)

Anyways, if Apple sold 270.000 or 270 I don't really care. I love it. It's a very sophisticated and well thought out piece of technology and it works great.

So, if it doesn't sell by the millions it's because of the price and not because ppl don't like it.

 

[MacAgony]

It's the ATT factor: sales will soar when it's unlocked

I have no doubt that the iPhone is a great device, but I will never buy one as long as it's locked to the AT&T service. Here's yet another reason why: AT&T is censoring free speech on their network.

From the Huffington Post:
AT&T: Your World Censored
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/timothy-karr/att-your-world-censored_b_59737.html

I'd like to support Apple by buying an iPhone, but not AT&T.

 

[Yankees 4 Life]

I have no doubt that the iPhone is a great device, but I will never buy one as long as it's locked to the AT&T service. Here's yet another reason why: AT&T is censoring free speech on their network.

From the Huffington Post:
AT&T: Your World Censored
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/timothy-karr/att-your-world-censored_b_59737.html

I'd like to support Apple by buying an iPhone, but not AT&T.

i dont understand, you want it unlocked so you can use it on t-mobile's useless network? also, you know visual voicemail wont work right? att is the cheapest network when it comes to total data in the country, unlocking it would make you guys all bitch and moan about how there isnt any visual voicemail and some other services due to unlocking...

 

[beate]

i dont understand, you want it unlocked so you can use it on t-mobile's useless network? also, you know visual voicemail wont work right? att is the cheapest network when it comes to total data in the country, unlocking it would make you guys all bitch and moan about how there isnt any visual voicemail and some other services due to unlocking...

Agreed. Data cost is unbelievable. I was worried it would be like a BB plan - ouch!

And visual voicemail - I've said it 100 times - Yay!!! For me it would be worth the price alone. I was with ATT but would have switched just to get that feature.
...Priceless.

As for waning demand...I know more people now that plan to buy one than I knew were planning on buying before/on launch.

 

[MacAgony]

Cheap data plan? Ha ha. You guys obviously never step foot outside the hallowed soil of the USA if you think that the iPhone with the AT&T data plan is inexpensive. Check this other thread in a MacRumors forum:

The $3,000 iPhone Bill

Specifically, how much in $ is visual voicemail worth to you if you're roaming?

But I still wouldn't support a network operator like AT&T that censors political expression on their network anyway.

 

[beate]

Cheap data plan? Ha ha. You guys obviously never step foot outside the hallowed soil of the USA if you think that the iPhone with the AT&T data plan is inexpensive. Check this other thread in a MacRumors forum:

The $3,000 iPhone Bill

Specifically, how much in $ is visual voicemail worth to you if you're roaming?

But I still wouldn't support a network operator like AT&T that censors political expression on their network anyway.

Obviously we are speaking of NORMAL usage. $20/mo is what I paid for crap services on prior phones. So bad that I cancelled the add-on service.

The phone is not available outside the US. There may be partnering or better Int. data plans at some point. I do think that ATT should add a feature to turn off Edge in the meantime.

Anyone running up a $3000 bill without knowing it is sort of...um..challenged.

"Political expression" - huh?

 

[Cybergypsy]

Obviously we are speaking of NORMAL usage. $20/mo is what I paid for crap services on prior phones. So bad that I cancelled the add-on service.

The phone is not available outside the US. There may be partnering or better Int. data plans at some point. I do think that ATT should add a feature to turn off Edge in the meantime.

Anyone running up a $3000 bill without knowing it is sort of...um..challenged.

"Political expression" - huh?

Challenged is a under statement.......

 

[timswim78]

I think it can be seen as a good thing if not too many iPhones sold. That will cause Apple to revisit their design, pricing, etc., and things will get better.

If the iPhone continued to sell out and break sales records there would not be as much incentive for Apple to improve the product.

 

[speedyj88]

I think it can be seen as a good thing if not too many iPhones sold. That will cause Apple to revisit their design, pricing, etc., and things will get better.

If the iPhone continued to sell out and break sales records there would not be as much incentive for Apple to improve the product.

Shareholders will not hold the same opinion as you.

 

[megfilmworks]

I think it can be seen as a good thing if not too many iPhones sold. That will cause Apple to revisit their design, pricing, etc., and things will get better..

Don't hold your breath. It is already the most successful phone ever sold. It is only going to get better. As far as att, they are all the same. If you want to stage a political protest, that's fine, but as for me, I don't live in the Twilight Zone.

 

[timswim78]

Shareholders will not hold the same opinion as you.

Shareholders will hold the company accountable. The company will work to sell more products to improve profits.

Don't hold your breath. It is already the most successful phone ever sold. It is only going to get better. As far as att, they are all the same. If you want to stage a political protest, that's fine, but as for me, I don't live in the Twilight Zone.

I have no idea what your statements mean. WOuld you care to clarify?

Hold my breath for what?
ATT is the same as who?
What political protest?
Twilight zone?

 

[zap2]

I have no doubt that the iPhone is a great device, but I will never buy one as long as it's locked to the AT&T service. Here's yet another reason why: AT&T is censoring free speech on their network.

From the Huffington Post:
AT&T: Your World Censored
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/timothy-karr/att-your-world-censored_b_59737.html

I'd like to support Apple by buying an iPhone, but not AT&T.

Duh, the market would be bigger, T-Mobile users, international users. But Apple wants a cheaper plan for iPhone, a cut of the profits, visual voice mall etc.

 

[HiRez]

There is no hardware to access a G3 network on the iPhone currently, so it isn't like it can be "turned on" by Apple via some update. It would be a whole new rev of the iPhone.

Well, it could be possible for AT&T to increase EDGE speeds somehow...more infrastructure, compression, optimization...whatever. Furthermore, Safari on iPhone could use better caching, it doesn't seem like it does it aggressively enough.

And page rendering seems very slow in Safari. Even over WiFi, on the same connection, the same page will render MUCH faster on any desktop Mac than in iPhone (World of Warcraft site for example, 7 secs vs. 30 secs). Maybe it's the limitation of the iPhone's CPU, but it's also very likely that Safari for iPhone has a lot of room left for optimization. It's clearly for all practical purposes still an early beta version, like most 1.0 software that Apple rolls out. Now that won't make EDGE faster, but it could give the perception of it.

 

[megfilmworks]

Shareholders will hold the company accountable. The company will work to sell more products to improve profits.





I have no idea what your statements mean. WOuld you care to clarify?

Hold my breath for what?
ATT is the same as who?
What political protest?
Twilight zone?

That Apple will change the most successful phone ever sold because of weak sales.
ATT is the same as all the other carriers
And the other comments, political protest and Twilight Zone were for previous poster who said att is censoring free speech.

 

[diamond.g]

Obviously we are speaking of NORMAL usage. $20/mo is what I paid for crap services on prior phones. So bad that I cancelled the add-on service.

The phone is not available outside the US. There may be partnering or better Int. data plans at some point. I do think that ATT should add a feature to turn off Edge in the meantime.

Anyone running up a $3000 bill without knowing it is sort of...um..challenged.

"Political expression" - huh?

Challenged is a under statement.......

No I think it is an overstatement. No one knew, for sure, how much data the phone uses at any given moment. Apple made this device super dependent on having Internet access. With no easy way of having the phone not use EDGE, yet still work as a phone.

But I guess the iPhone is too much phone for people that actually leave their country ever once and a while, huh? People like that should just stick to their BlackBerries and Windows Mobile phones .

 

[seafurydriver]

Challenged is a under statement.......

Give me a break. Just because I'm a business users of the iphone am I supposed to spend my day trying to figure out how much data is pouring into this thing? I spent the first ten days of this month in China while my iphone ran up what I can only imagine will be a $1000-$2000 bill. No one ever offered me an intl. data plan when I signed up for the intl. voice plan. All I did was have my phone on, in case my office called. Is that worth $2000?

I feel like a guy who's just come home to discover that a water main has broken in his backyard and the water company is there to charge him for the flood.

While I'm a big fan of the iphone this is a serious problem for Apple, and will drive business users away until a solution is reached.

 

[terminator]

This just goes back to the fact that Analysts know almost nothing.

They predicted 500,000 and now are predicting 200,000 based on the activation numbers?

Where did they get 500,000? They took a wild guess it seems.

arn

yeah, the damn analysts are always doing this, just make the stock price up and down.

 

[terminator]

Give me a break. Just because I'm a business users of the iphone am I supposed to spend my day trying to figure out how much data is pouring into this thing? I spent the first ten days of this month in China while my iphone ran up what I can only imagine will be a $1000-$2000 bill. No one ever offered me an intl. data plan when I signed up for the intl. voice plan. All I did was have my phone on, in case my office called. Is that worth $2000?

I feel like a guy who's just come home to discover that a water main has broken in his backyard and the water company is there to charge him for the flood.

While I'm a big fan of the iphone this is a serious problem for Apple, and will drive business users away until a solution is reached.

OMG, That's serious.

 

[megfilmworks]

I leave for Europe in two weeks, and this data roaming does have me worried.
I'll be calling att before leaving to clarify these muddy waters. I guess I could turn off email, and only use wifi, but are there more hidden data gets like weather, visual voicemail, etc?

 

[Maui]

I leave for Europe in two weeks, and this data roaming does have me worried.
I'll be calling att before leaving to clarify these muddy waters. I guess I could turn off email, and only use wifi, but are there more hidden data gets like weather, visual voicemail, etc?

Meg--Walt Mossberg has a pretty good rundown on the cost of using the iPhone outside the US.

 

[beate]

yeah, the damn analysts are always doing this, just make the stock price up and down.

You're actually correct - though it's not the analysts.

 

[megfilmworks]

Meg--Walt Mossberg has a pretty good rundown on the cost of using the iPhone outside the US.

Thank you very much!! Quite an interesting article.