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Yet another stupid chart showing sales of ALL Samsung smartphones when most of them are low-end junk phones. Same goes for the other manufacturers listed.

Next up IDC should show a chart comparing the sales of Toyota to Mercedes and tell us all how Mercedes market share is so much lower than Toyota.
 
If any company is going to produce cheaper products the quality of the product will be cheaper to justify the cost..then the you get the customer complains that the glass or casing is cheaper...Apple just does not do cheap products...cheaper products will also lead to lower profits, especially considering the market saturation of phones these days. Its a balancing act for Apple...lower revenues, small profits to stay profitable.
The iPhone 3G was $199 on launch. No one was suggesting that was an inferior product! It was an insanely popular product.
 
No, it seems to be the pricing entirely, not storage. The retail prices of all iPhones currently are completely wrong.

Original iPhone for the majority of its life was US $399.
iPhone 3G on launch is US $199.
iPhone 6s on launch is US $649.
iPhone SE, a reworked model from 2013 is US $399.


The price is not right.
Apple's retail prices of all iPhones currently are completely wrong.

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You leave out the bloated carrier subsidity pricing.

iPhone has long been $650 base price. Since at least the 3G.
$199 with pricy contract. $650 no-contract.
 
No, it seems to be the pricing entirely, not storage. The retail prices of all iPhones currently are completely wrong.

Original iPhone for the majority of its life was US $399.
iPhone 3G on launch is US $199.
iPhone 6s on launch is US $649.
iPhone SE, a reworked model from 2013 is US $399.


The price is not right.
Apple's retail prices of all iPhones currently are completely wrong.

iphonepricing.jpg

You do realize that those phones were on a contract correct? Nowadays, without contracts, carriers will no longer subsidize phones. Apple never offered a $199 iPhone, carriers did.
 
Wasn't the original iPhone $399 with a contract?

It was $399 with a contract, you're right. He was using the wrong numbers to make a point.

I think Apple shouldn't release a 16GB phone or any 16GB iDevices anymore.

And Apple should definitely not go for volume by reducing the price, I want the device to get all the innovation it could get every release. The price clearly isn't the problem for the iPhones, because they sell like hotcakes for nearly 10 years now, it's that the smartphone market is now maturing, people with a 5S still has a very good phone and going to a 6S won't improve their experiences by a wide margin. Innovation will sell iPhones, price drops will make the iPhone loses some of its appeal imo.
 
Apple's got its pricing all wrong. I would have entered the Apple ecosystem ten years earlier than I did. I simply couldn't afford to buy an Apple product earlier. Apple's retail prices are terribly overpriced, and in contrast, Apple's offshore workforce are terribly underpaid. How about some middle ground, Apple? Price lower and go for volume. Do we need to get to Huawei market share level before price changes are made?

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iPhone in 4 inch at 6/6s launch - mistake.
Retail pricing too high - mistake.
What other mistakes?


Original iPhone for the majority of its life was US $399.
iPhone 3G on launch is US $199.
iPhone 6s on launch is US $649.
iPhone SE, a reworked model from 2013 is US $399.


The price is not right.
Apple's retail prices of all iPhones currently are completely wrong.

iphonepricing.jpg


The iPhone does not cost $199
 
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The price clearly isn't the problem for the iPhones, because they sell like hotcakes for nearly 10 years now

Steve Jobs sliced the price of the original iPhone when he introduced the 3G because the sales weren't up to where he wanted them to be. I feel like Apple will eventually have to drop the price of their phones, along with everyone. The same idea happened with computers.
 
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Apple's got its pricing all wrong. I would have entered the Apple ecosystem ten years earlier than I did. I simply couldn't afford to buy an Apple product earlier. Apple's retail prices are terribly overpriced, and in contrast, Apple's offshore workforce are terribly underpaid. How about some middle ground, Apple? Price lower and go for volume. Do we need to get to Huawei market share level before price changes are made?

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iPhone in 4 inch at 6/6s launch - mistake.
Retail pricing too high - mistake.
What other mistakes?


Original iPhone for the majority of its life was US $399.
iPhone 3G on launch is US $199.
iPhone 6s on launch is US $649.
iPhone SE, a reworked model from 2013 is US $399.


The price is not right.
Apple's retail prices of all iPhones currently are completely wrong.

iphonepricing.jpg
Wow! What a misleading comment. The original iPhone was US $399 with a two year contract with AT&T. So was the US $199 for the iPhone 3G. The prices you mention for iPhone 6s and SE are unlocked with no two year contract since carriers not Apple decided that they were eliminating subsidies. That's the reason behind Apple's new upgrade plan. I get that they're expensive but comparing unlocked with subsidized is just misleading.
 
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Yet another stupid chart showing sales of ALL Samsung smartphones when most of them are low-end junk phones. Same goes for the other manufacturers listed.

Next up IDC should show a chart comparing the sales of Toyota to Mercedes and tell us all how Mercedes market share is so much lower than Toyota.

Apple is not thinking about market share...making a profit is the name of the game....
 
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Apple's got its pricing all wrong. I would have entered the Apple ecosystem ten years earlier than I did. I simply couldn't afford to buy an Apple product earlier. Apple's retail prices are terribly overpriced, and in contrast, Apple's offshore workforce are terribly underpaid. How about some middle ground, Apple? Price lower and go for volume. Do we need to get to Huawei market share level before price changes are made?

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iPhone in 4 inch at 6/6s launch - mistake.
Retail pricing too high - mistake.
What other mistakes?


Original iPhone for the majority of its life was US $399.
iPhone 3G on launch is US $199.
iPhone 6s on launch is US $649.
iPhone SE, a reworked model from 2013 is US $399.


The price is not right.
Apple's retail prices of all iPhones currently are completely wrong.

iphonepricing.jpg
Those were on-contract prices with a network subsidy. The real price without a contract was $650-850 for those first gen iPhones.
 
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They need to reduce the price of the iPhone and focus more on their "micro transactions" People are not going to put out $850 for a phone.. The per month pricing is not bad, but I'm not opening an credit card to get one and it really messes with my current setup in my house. We always swap out phones with the kids.. Not giving an $850 phone to my kids and with the trade in option I lose that.
 
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The ending of carrier subsidies doesn't help. I usually upgrade every year. Not sure this time.

Carriers have other purchasing options.. such as Tabs. You pay $199, but then pay the balance through the life of your contract. Much like a subsidy....
 
The pricing isn't wrong with the entry level model, it's the storage that's the problem.

Should be 32 GB (5.5") for $649, and then 64 GB for $699.
Should be 32 GB (4.7") for $549 and then 64 GB for $599.

A 128 GB phablet shouldn't cost $1,000.00.
Pricing isn't wrong; lists price adjustments.
 
Where are Blackberry and Microsoft on this list?
Oh forgot it was 2016.

Smart phones aren't getting any smarter. There is no killer feature driving mass upgrades.
If your next phone had an amazing camera, was fast as hell, had a 1TB of storage and battery life that lasted a week, you would never need to upgrade.
 
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Yet another stupid chart showing sales of ALL Samsung smartphones when most of them are low-end junk phones. Same goes for the other manufacturers listed.

Next up IDC should show a chart comparing the sales of Toyota to Mercedes and tell us all how Mercedes market share is so much lower than Toyota.
Agreed, you need to compare high end smart phones from the different companies for an accurate market share analysis.
 
Apple's got its pricing all wrong. I would have entered the Apple ecosystem ten years earlier than I did. I simply couldn't afford to buy an Apple product earlier. Apple's retail prices are terribly overpriced, and in contrast, Apple's offshore workforce are terribly underpaid. How about some middle ground, Apple? Price lower and go for volume. Do we need to get to Huawei market share level before price changes are made?

No new
iPhone in 4 inch at 6/6s launch - mistake.
Retail pricing too high - mistake.
What other mistakes?


Original iPhone for the majority of its life was US $399.
iPhone 3G on launch is US $199.
iPhone 6s on launch is US $649.
iPhone SE, a reworked model from 2013 is US $399.


The price is not right.
Apple's retail prices of all iPhones currently are completely wrong.

iphonepricing.jpg

Those were the two year subsidized contract prices. Please compare fairly.
 
The market is saturated, manufacturers are churning out devices that are all more or less the same as last year/as the others' - no surprise there. Smartwatches were supposed to be the new niche to get more sales, but the first gen fell flat due to silly decisions (ie. the watch may be smart, but it dumb enough to be kept completely dependant on a smartphone).
 
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