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iPhone Drops to 15% Market Share as Smartphone Market Goes Flat
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Consensus on the MR threads would say that people are going to take a pass on the 2016 edition and wait for the mega-release in 2017 - the numbers are the numbers - but nothing like seeing an optimistic fan / shareholder kicking and scratching for reasons.
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32gb base storage.
increase the resolution of the display
waterproofing
OLED display
Flatter Camera or at least add OIS to their flagship device.
New designs for the casings.
smaller bezels top and bottom
move to industry standard ports (USB C instead of proprietary lightning)
these are all things I would like to see in the next few iPhones for them to justify the device costing flagship prices.
An hence the lower selling of iPhone. I guess Apple's financing option didn't pan out well either.
This hysterical overreaction to Apple failing to beat a previous YoY blockbuster quarter of growth is insane.
Apple is fine:
- They still make the very best products in every category they have entered.
- They still have same obsessive attention to detail that we all love.
- Nobody does more product innovation than Apple.
- Nobody cares more about design and usability than Apple.
- They still have the best customer care in the industry.
- They still make all the profit.
People need to calm down.
As for the demands for Apple to make a bigger commitment to the Mac, I'm sorry but that is a dying business. Yesterday's numbers show the Mac is now in decline like rest of the PC industry. Apple will continue selling Macs, but they are not going to waste a large number of precious resources on a business that has no longterm future.
Apple is fine:
- They still make the very best products in every category they have entered.
- They still have same obsessive attention to detail that we all love.
- Nobody does more product innovation than Apple.
- Nobody cares more about design and usability than Apple.
- They still have the best customer care in the industry.
- They still make all the profit.
People need to calm down.
As for the demands for Apple to make a bigger commitment to the Mac, I'm sorry but that is a dying business. Yesterday's numbers show the Mac is now in decline like rest of the PC industry. Apple will continue selling Macs, but they are not going to waste a large number of precious resources on a business that has no longterm future.
That's a bit harsh
I use both daily and there's a lot of things Android does better than IOS.....
I have an idea, stop making things thinner, less compatible, and with fewer connections, and give people what they want until you think of something else they didn't know they wanted until you showed it to them. This goes for mobile devices and computers. People were willing to ride the bleeding-edge to drop floppy drives, then CDs, then collect a small army of video adapters when Apple was making things so over the top "insanely great" it was worth the small headaches. It's getting less and less worth it. I'm certainly not going to spend money just to have to re-buy headphones for a gazillion $s because the mini-plug is too husky.
Sounds like the history is going to repeat itself. Remember Apple vs Microsoft competition?
Smartphones aren't interesting any more. They haven't really done anything new for the last 5 years. They just got faster. Most people just use their phones for texting, calls and Internet. My Nokia with b&w lcd display from 10 or so years ago did that. Phone upgrades are nothing more than a once a year treat, like a holiday. Apple needs to find a new vein to tap before it completely looses out to China. I can get a smartphone with same specs as an iPhone or Samsung direct from China with free shipping for just over £100. Why the hell would you pay £700? Just to impress your friends for five minutes?
Apple have a dual eye camera on the next phone yet all they are using it for is just to get clearer photographs. Boring.
Apple have a dual eye camera on the next phone yet all they are using it for is just to get clearer photographs. Boring.
Finally a balanced article on the iPhone drop in sales.
I don't want Apple to slow down their profiting. Android may own the marketshare but Apple owns 90% of the profit (I think that is the number I read)....so we want a company to stop making money????
THIS IS NOT A CHARITY. Profit is not a dirty word.
If your thinking is that it is wrong for a company to get "more than its fair share of the profit", you have succumbed successfully to the brainwashing that capitalism is bad. Sorry to rant but I am a business owner and you have no idea what it takes to get to sleep at night worrying about things and the future and whether my employees are taken care of.
I don't want Apple to slow down their profiting. Android may own the marketshare but Apple owns 90% of the profit (I think that is the number I read)....so we want a company to stop making money????
THIS IS NOT A CHARITY. Profit is not a dirty word.
If your thinking is that it is wrong for a company to get "more than its fair share of the profit", you have succumbed successfully to the brainwashing that capitalism is bad. Sorry to rant but I am a business owner and you have no idea what it takes to get to sleep at night worrying about things and the future and whether my employees are taken care of.
And the reviews of dual Huawei Leica camera is said to be the best on the market, at this point.
My point exactly. The first doesn't answer the question at all, and the second is a very expensive paid report.
Again that profit is based on a diminishing number of units sold which indicates the number of high-end buyers is drying up with more balking at the Apple price,
Doesn't work.
If everyone bought their devices outright, yes. Depending on region, many now "finance/installment" their devices. This makes even a high-end smartphone affordable. Many regions/countries don't have this option. There are too many variables and too many ways to realistically do up a comparison.
Finally, define flagship.
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Smartphones are a commodity.
Dual lens, waterproof, faster, slimmer are all features that are welcomed, but not imperative to have.
Most people needs are already served by the phones they have.
Apple will be fine, but the days of around the block lineups are over.
Dual lens, waterproof, faster, slimmer are all features that are welcomed, but not imperative to have.
Most people needs are already served by the phones they have.
Apple will be fine, but the days of around the block lineups are over.
So the S7's superior low-light performance, and superior focus speed is "worthless dingle balls"? Because it blows the 6s out of the water and it's something the casual user would instantly benefit from, since you know, low-light conditions are fairly common in daily camera use.
Apple used to be ahead of everyone else by at least a year. Now they are behind everyone else by a year or more.
Apple has played it far too safe, the market has responded.
So the S7's superior low-light performance, and superior focus speed is "worthless dingle balls"? Because it blows the 6s out of the water and it's something the casual user would instantly benefit from, since you know, low-light conditions are fairly common in daily camera use.
Apple has played it far too safe, the market has responded.
in the eyes of an apple fanboy, anything that is in a competiting device that Apple hasn't done is a gimmick and useless, at least until Apple also uses it, then it's a feature and apple invented and did it best
I know plenty of people who use their iPhones for texting and calls too.
This unbalance just means that a small market share change can have big impact on the profit side.
You are misinformed. While Apple does very well in revenue and profit categories, it does not lead Android in revenues. Here is a chart that shows market share by units and revenue for 2014. I suspect that Android's market share by revenue increased since then.
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As one can see, in 2014 Android's revenue was more than twice higher than that of iOS devices.
Apple could be selling 400-600 million if the price was more reasonable. Apple's app business is price low and go for volume. The offshore workforce is effectively Apple's. Those workers, working on Apple parts, assembling Apple devices, are focusing all their hours working for Apple, they're certainly part if Apple's workforce, although quite forgotten. Apple talks a lot about supplier responsibility, but at the end of the day, even after their most recent report, it's woefully well away from anything to brag about, especially more so considering revenues.
Apple has its foundations in computing and continues in this tradition with decided success. Given this sound foundation, I have always thought it odd that Apple has not better integrated the iPhone with its computing solutions to form a more unified work and home environment, an option not readily available to other cell phone manufacturers. We perform activities unique to each device but the two don't readily communicate. Neither device serves as an enhanced extension of the other.
Those profits are coming to an end and if rumors about the iphone 7 turn out to be true I.E. no major redesign. Then look for sales to sink even further. It doesn't really matter how high your profit margin is if you're not selling phones. I can make a phone and price it at $50,000 that would be a hefty profit for something that cost me $150 to make. If I sell zero phones how does that work for me? Flagship phones are too expensive from all manufacturers. There is nothing that an iphone or GS7 does that a $300-$400 phone can't do. You could argue the GS7 gives you water proofing and that might be worth the extra money for some people. Carriers removing subsidies aren't helping, it has enabled your average consumer to figure out how expensive these things really are and people are also hanging on to these phones a lot longer.
The numbers aren't going to be there for Apple, the sales of these phones will continue to decline unless something dramatic happens. They need a spectacular phone that is jaw dropping or they will have to cut the price down to compete.
We know MR forums are a microcosm of the real world and the posts here can be extrapolated to the populace in general.
I should have clarified, I thought the platform comment was enough but clearly not, sorry about that. I was referring to app revenue (which Google relies on because they license the platform for very little).You are misinformed. While Apple does very well in revenue and profit categories, it does not lead Android in revenues. Here is a chart that shows market share by units and revenue for 2014. I suspect that Android's market share by revenue increased since then.
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As one can see, in 2014 Android's revenue was more than twice higher than that of iOS devices.
http://9to5mac.com/2016/04/19/ios-app-store-half-downloads-google-play-store-twice-revenue/
