Other iPhone foldable is the most clear Apple downfall yet.

[ofarlig]

And? It still scratched via his freaking fingernail lmao.

The times I’ve had a fold the screens looked brand new when it was time to switch, but then again I don’t try to destroy my devices on purpose. So that is a tip, don’t try to destroy the screen and it will most likely be fine.

My iPhone can easily scratch from things like if I have sand on my fingers and try to use the screen, I just make sure to not drag my fingers on the device while I have sand on them.

 

[Nada Ting]

I'm not sure I want to use a 2 hands phone out in the field. I carry an iPad for when I need a portable screen, but having to commit 2 hands to juggle a phone is clumsy and unnecessary. I think Apple is getting too gimmicky and kitchy with these bells and whistles because they know you'll buy anything they put in front of your faces. But I'll wait until I actually hold one before I decide.
I'll be looking forward to reading the neurotic buyers remorse comments tho.

 

[Garethe86]

I'm on the fence. I've seen people using them and the idea of it looks cool, but the weight and clunkiness IDK, if any company could make it work it's Apple (yes I'm a fanboy).

 

[SmOgER]

I think you haven’t actually tried using Fold7. Once you try handling that, it becomes very obvious that all your typical standard smartphones are pale in comparison. And this is coming from someone who owns 16Pro and nothing from Samsung presently.

That thing is already almost at the level where you may as well not unfold it at all and pretend you are using Galaxy Ultra. There are very little compromises even when you leave the inner screen alone which has obvious advantages for showing photos, browsing the web, drawing, playing games, typing or whatever.

 

[ThailandToo]

Look what up? I’ve seen plenty of Foldables reviews, they fall apart like paper. Here’s an example:

 

[Compote]

Steve Jobs had one posture that went along with one form factor he needed to sell.

People don't seem to understand that Apple is an electronics company, not a CULT.

 

[apple2022]

Look what up? I’ve seen plenty of Foldables reviews, they fall apart like paper. Here’s an example:

That’s a super exploitive channel. Destruction P*rn. Thinly veiled as some sort of durability review.

 

[apple2022]

I think you haven’t actually tried using Fold7. Once you try handling that, it becomes very obvious that all your typical standard smartphones are pale in comparison. And this is coming from someone who owns 16Pro and nothing from Samsung presently.

That thing is already almost at the level where you may as well not unfold it at all and pretend you are using Galaxy Ultra. There are very little compromises even when you leave the inner screen alone which has obvious advantages for showing photos, browsing the web, drawing, playing games, typing or whatever.

I had the same feeling. I’ve only used Apple mobile devices but went to Best Buy several times and tried the fold 6 then went back and tried the fold 7. The fold 7 blew be away and they had just put it up on display. I even got to pull the black screen protector off the front panel. It 100% felt like the future. A full screen on the outside, wide as my iPhone 16, thin as it too by the way it feels. then a huge screen inside. The compromises are getting fewer and fewer. But a trifold that runs iPad OS is a dream device.

 

[maxoakland]

That’s not true, they have chased many trends. And it has made them one of the largest and most profitable companies in the world. And that’s what they care about, not adhering to principles of some dead guy.

Nothing you said refutes my argument

 

[Bungaree.Chubbins]

I think you haven’t actually tried using Fold7. Once you try handling that, it becomes very obvious that all your typical standard smartphones are pale in comparison. And this is coming from someone who owns 16Pro and nothing from Samsung presently.

That thing is already almost at the level where you may as well not unfold it at all and pretend you are using Galaxy Ultra. There are very little compromises even when you leave the inner screen alone which has obvious advantages for showing photos, browsing the web, drawing, playing games, typing or whatever.

And what if someone actually HAD tried one, and thought it felt like a cheap gimmick for a LOT of money?

 

[apple2022]

And what if someone actually HAD tried one, and thought it felt like a cheap gimmick for a LOT of money?

It’s an opinion then. Most reviews and people I know personally it’s an engineering marvel. All of these iterations are needed for further development of the tech too. Trifold is on the horizon.

 

[apple2022]

I'm not sure I want to use a 2 hands phone out in the field. I carry an iPad for when I need a portable screen, but having to commit 2 hands to juggle a phone is clumsy and unnecessary. I think Apple is getting too gimmicky and kitchy with these bells and whistles because they know you'll buy anything they put in front of your faces. But I'll wait until I actually hold one before I decide.
I'll be looking forward to reading the neurotic buyers remorse comments tho.

I highly recommend holding the fold 7. It feels like a normal phone.

 

[jhwalker]

I have no use case for a foldable. 99% of my waking hours are spent in front of computers with large screens. If contacted to do something during that 1 percent of time I am not in front of a computer, it can wait until I get back there. A phone, foldable or otherwise, cannot accomplish what I need a computer for. So my current phone (a slab) remains effective for me as a phone when I happen to be out.

And, I just do not want a foldable. It's not anything I'm interested in.

OTOH, I can understand why people may need/want one. I have no use case to own a Pro Max. I have no use case to own the largest capacity. But I wanted it. So, if people want a foldable just because, then fine. Hopefully, whatever Apple may eventually offer fits the purpose. For myself however, I won't be buying one.

... and I'm almost exactly the opposite.

I am almost NEVER in front of a monitor, and I use my iPhone for 99% of my computing, including work meetings, emails, Slack, etc.

A foldable iPhone that expands about to the size of a iPad Mini would be PERFECT for me 🤷‍♂️

 

[GioGiusi]

Even if they can achieve a crease-free display, you're still stuck with 2 problems:

- The device is massively over-engineered in that it needs a separate "outside" display, duplicating technology on device, so that it can actually be usable in the folded state.
- When unfolded, the device is still way too small to be a tablet. There is a reason tablet devices start around a certain size, and there is a reason why certain sizes around 10" are what sell the best. There is utility in a tablet of a certain size. You can't just make a squared phablet with 2 smart phone screens stuck together and call it useful. It doesn't have any new utility. It doesn't enable to use the device any differently. It is, by definition, a gimmick.

This is of course based entirely on the Galaxy Z Fold, but all indications are that Apple is building their own nearly identical hardware as it's using the same display as the Z Fold 8.

The only reason Apple is doing this at all is because it can sell for over $2k, and that is all Tim Cook cares about. A more conscientious CEO who was in line with Apple's values would not even be considering such a device.

 

[GioGiusi]

... and I'm almost exactly the opposite.

I am almost NEVER in front of a monitor, and I use my iPhone for 99% of my computing, including work meetings, emails, Slack, etc.

A foldable iPhone that expands about to the size of a iPad Mini would be PERFECT for me 🤷‍♂️

But...it's not going to magically expand to the size of an iPad mini. It's going to expand to a roughly square 6" x 5" display. How many tablets are there on the market with displays of that size and shape? The answer is none, because when you set out to make a useful tablet that has utility, you don't make it that size, or shape. And even if it could somehow achieve the size and aspect ratio of an iPad mini (it can't), the iPad mini is the worst iPad. The device has languished and been on the verge of being discontinued several times in its lifetime. It is kept alive mostly by niche use cases, like the fact that it fits in labcoats, cockpits, and other size-constrained places. Not because people like small tablets, but because small tablets fit in certain situations.

 

[apple2022]

Even if they can achieve a crease-free display, you're still stuck with 2 problems:

- The device is massively over-engineered in that it needs a separate "outside" display, duplicating technology on device, so that it can actually be usable in the folded state.
- When unfolded, the device is still way too small to be a tablet. There is a reason tablet devices start around a certain size, and there is a reason why certain sizes around 10" are what sell the best. There is utility in a tablet of a certain size. You can't just make a squared phablet with 2 smart phone screens stuck together and call it useful. It doesn't have any new utility. It doesn't enable to use the device any differently. It is, by definition, a gimmick.

This is of course based entirely on the Galaxy Z Fold, but all indications are that Apple is building their own nearly identical hardware as it's using the same display as the Z Fold 8.

The only reason Apple is doing this at all is because it can sell for over $2k, and that is all Tim Cook cares about. A more conscientious CEO who was in line with Apple's values would not even be considering such a device.

We’re going to see a “trifold” display with a size around 10 inches very soon with a thickness around 13mm when closed with Samsung level of polish. That’s what all of this is leading to. At that point the use case is fully apparent. An iPad in your pocket with minimal compromises. If you’re in school maybe it means going to class with just a phone in your pocket. It could change a lot of travel plans for people. I’d consider weeks of vacation with just my phone if it ran iPad OS and was suddenly 10 inches as needed.

 

[tim_apple]

But...it's not going to magically expand to the size of an iPad mini. It's going to expand to a roughly square 6" x 5" display. How many tablets are there on the market with displays of that size and shape? The answer is none, because when you set out to make a useful tablet that has utility, you don't make it that size, or shape. And even if it could somehow achieve the size and aspect ratio of an iPad mini (it can't), the iPad mini is the worst iPad. The device has languished and been on the verge of being discontinued several times in its lifetime. It is kept alive mostly by niche use cases, like the fact that it fits in labcoats, cockpits, and other size-constrained places. Not because people like small tablets, but because small tablets fit in certain situations.

I think you have the dimensions wrong. It actually will unfold into the size of an iPad mini. The folded state might be a compromise though that some people don’t like. Shorter and wider than a regular phone.

 

[eyoungren]

... and I'm almost exactly the opposite.

I am almost NEVER in front of a monitor, and I use my iPhone for 99% of my computing, including work meetings, emails, Slack, etc.

A foldable iPhone that expands about to the size of a iPad Mini would be PERFECT for me 🤷‍♂️

Then the foldable is for you. My primary objection to a foldable goes back to an early discussion around here where someone implied that foldables would replace slab phones and would (in the future) be the only style of device Apple sells. In other words, you want an iPhone, it's a foldable. Period. No slabs.

You might see where I object to that.

But if a foldable is sold right alongside a regular slab iPhone, then there is no objection by me. Everybody gets what they want. I just won't buy a foldable and you won't buy a slab. No harm no foul.

 

[SmOgER]

Even if they can achieve a crease-free display, you're still stuck with 2 problems:

- The device is massively over-engineered in that it needs a separate "outside" display, duplicating technology on device, so that it can actually be usable in the folded state.
- When unfolded, the device is still way too small to be a tablet. There is a reason tablet devices start around a certain size, and there is a reason why certain sizes around 10" are what sell the best. There is utility in a tablet of a certain size. You can't just make a squared phablet with 2 smart phone screens stuck together and call it useful. It doesn't have any new utility. It doesn't enable to use the device any differently. It is, by definition, a gimmick.

This is of course based entirely on the Galaxy Z Fold, but all indications are that Apple is building their own nearly identical hardware as it's using the same display as the Z Fold 8.

The only reason Apple is doing this at all is because it can sell for over $2k, and that is all Tim Cook cares about. A more conscientious CEO who was in line with Apple's values would not even be considering such a device.

I think you are missing the point. Folded current gen phone is not any thicker than their flagship regular smartphone (Samsung). Let that sink in. There are hardly any compromises, especially with progressing battery technology, and you get to play with the inner screen in addition of having “normal” phone. Just because the aspect ratio of that inner display is not perfect for watching videos this does not change anything in the grand scheme of things.

 

[subjonas]

But...it's not going to magically expand to the size of an iPad mini. It's going to expand to a roughly square 6" x 5" display. How many tablets are there on the market with displays of that size and shape? The answer is none, because when you set out to make a useful tablet that has utility, you don't make it that size, or shape. And even if it could somehow achieve the size and aspect ratio of an iPad mini (it can't), the iPad mini is the worst iPad. The device has languished and been on the verge of being discontinued several times in its lifetime. It is kept alive mostly by niche use cases, like the fact that it fits in labcoats, cockpits, and other size-constrained places. Not because people like small tablets, but because small tablets fit in certain situations.

According to rumors the Apple foldable is supposed to be very similar to iPad Mini dimensions.
And iPad Mini has the best dimensions for pure tablet use. Larger sizes are commonly used at least partially as pseudo laptops with keyboard stands because of their size and weight, with the largest tablets often being used exclusively as touch laptops rather than tablets. iPad Mini is the purest tablet. I don’t know if we have access to accurate sales numbers, but they’re obviously popular enough to be worth it for Apple to produce for the last 13 years. If they’re the lowest sales now then it’s likely only because of the rise of popularity of large phones, which are really just nano tablets that can’t to commit to the ideal tablet size because they have to fit in a pocket. But of course folding changes that so that now phones can also be an ideal pure tablet size.

 

[Bungaree.Chubbins]

It’s an opinion then. Most reviews and people I know personally it’s an engineering marvel. All of these iterations are needed for further development of the tech too. Trifold is on the horizon.

Yes, we both have opinions. You think folding phones make slab phones look stale and boring, I think they make the slab phones look more robust and efficient in comparison. You can have your bendy phone, I can have my slab. The slab phone isn’t going anywhere.

We’re going to see a “trifold” display with a size around 10 inches very soon with a thickness around 13mm when closed with Samsung level of polish. That’s what all of this is leading to. At that point the use case is fully apparent. An iPad in your pocket with minimal compromises. If you’re in school maybe it means going to class with just a phone in your pocket. It could change a lot of travel plans for people. I’d consider weeks of vacation with just my phone if it ran iPad OS and was suddenly 10 inches as needed.

Sure, you can get a “tri-fold” for school with your trust-fund money. If it weren’t already, it’ll be easy to spot the rich kids.

 

[jayyosh1213]

I have to say if Apple actually releases a foldable iPhone, it will be the most clear sign that the company has abandoned a lot of Steve Jobs principles that got it to where it is. Foldable phones go 100% against Apple philosophy. It's the next netbook. It's a stupid gimmick that compromises design principles of durability, aesthetic and to add what? Few inches of plastic screen.
This will be the biggest sign on the wall "I'm Tim Cook, I don't know what else to create, so I've do another Newton". Apple Vision was the first product they made that while nowhere near as bad as a foldable phone, was the first device that didn't have a proper use case. And released 8 years too early. Because....investors, stock, we need to innovate? Yeah, probably. There was a lot internal resistance at Apple before the release. For a good reason. It made no sense. As a concept in the future, Apple Vision may make sense. (watch didn't have a killer app - yes, but they have pulled it off eventually, difference is tech to build a good product was there).

But foldable phone...Steve Jobs said many times "we don't ship junk". It's junk. Do you remember how nuts Steve went before original iPhone release when he scratched a prototype plastic screen? He made Corning go nuclear to retool the factory to have a glass screen before 2007. And they will ship plastic ******** for 2+ grand...?

Just genuinely sad to see company giving up on what it stood for. Slowly, gradually.

How out of touch with reality are you without telling us? It's a for profit company. What is wrong with folding phones? The new Fold 7 is actually pretty damn sleek. Same with all the foreign companies who can't sell in the States. Why wouldn't Apple want a piece of the pie?

 

[contacos]

No one forces you all to buy it. It's an optional iPhone variant of many. Personally, after using Fold 6, Oppo Find N5 and Fold 7, I'll never go back to using a "regular" phone again. The only thing missing is better cameras. At this point I feel like they are holding back on purpose to warrant further upgrades in the future. I hope Apple isn't holding back as much in this regard. They'd immediately get the lead, if they put flagship cameras in theirs.

No more switching between apps constantly, everything just open at the same time. Peak

 

[Jackkmann]

I have to say if Apple actually releases a foldable iPhone, it will be the most clear sign that the company has abandoned a lot of Steve Jobs principles that got it to where it is. Foldable phones go 100% against Apple philosophy. It's the next netbook. It's a stupid gimmick that compromises design principles of durability, aesthetic and to add what? Few inches of plastic screen.
This will be the biggest sign on the wall "I'm Tim Cook, I don't know what else to create, so I've do another Newton". Apple Vision was the first product they made that while nowhere near as bad as a foldable phone, was the first device that didn't have a proper use case. And released 8 years too early. Because....investors, stock, we need to innovate? Yeah, probably. There was a lot internal resistance at Apple before the release. For a good reason. It made no sense. As a concept in the future, Apple Vision may make sense. (watch didn't have a killer app - yes, but they have pulled it off eventually, difference is tech to build a good product was there).

But foldable phone...Steve Jobs said many times "we don't ship junk". It's junk. Do you remember how nuts Steve went before original iPhone release when he scratched a prototype plastic screen? He made Corning go nuclear to retool the factory to have a glass screen before 2007. And they will ship plastic ******** for 2+ grand...?

Just genuinely sad to see company giving up on what it stood for. Slowly, gradually.

Its not junk.. Its just not apple.

 

[nfl46]

Look what up? I’ve seen plenty of Foldables reviews, they fall apart like paper. Here’s an example:

Oh Jamie...

Go to the 8:00 minute mark and prepare for your mouth to hit the floor.

Thinnest foldable in the world and durable as ever!

Apple waited for the right time to release their foldable...they are now durable and will soon have crease free screens next year. Damn good timing by them.