iPhone Hack Answered Questions About San Bernardino Attack But Generated No New Leads

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Breaking into the iPhone of San Bernardino shooter Syed Farook yielded no new leads in the FBI's investigation, but it did help answer remaining questions about the attack, reports CNN.

    According to anonymous U.S. law enforcement officials, the iPhone did not contain encrypted messages or evidence of communications with other unknown ISIS supporters, but it did confirm the shooters did not have outside help as there was no evidence Farook made contact with a third-party during an 18-minute timeline gap.


    The FBI has also concluded there was data on the phone it did not have access to previously, an unsurprising find because the iPhone was in use for several weeks after the last iCloud backup. Apple was able to provide data from iCloud backups to the FBI, but the FBI pursued the iPhone unlocking because there was no way to know if there was additional information on the phone without breaching it.
    CNN's report is in line with information shared last week by CBS News, which said "nothing of real significance" had been discovered on the device. As The Verge points out, the lack of useful contacts or messages on the phone has brought an anticlimactic end to the vicious public encryption battle Apple and the FBI fought over the San Bernardino iPhone.

    Apple and the FBI are continuing their encryption dispute over a case in New York. The FBI has asked that a judge order Apple to unlock the iPhone 5s pertinent to a Brooklyn drug case, which Apple has refused to do. While the order was initially denied, the FBI has filed an appeal and the case has yet to be decided.

    Apple legal chief Bruce Sewell and Amy Hess, executive assistant director for science and technology at the FBI, are also testifying before congress this afternoon over encryption matters.

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  2. skottichan macrumors 6502a


    Oct 23, 2007
    Columbus, OH
  3. mariusignorello macrumors 65816

    Jun 9, 2013
  4. Eduardo1971 macrumors 65816


    Jun 16, 2006
    Lost Angeles, Ca. usa
    This was to be expected. The iPhone in question belongs to the County. It is a government-issued mobile telephone; I don't think that the FBI were expecting that the shooter would use a government issued phone to store/share nefarious information.
  5. NutsNGum macrumors 68030


    Jul 30, 2010
    Glasgow, Scotland
    If that lingering question was "Did the attacker use this phone for anything". No.
  6. scoobydoo99 macrumors 6502a

    Mar 11, 2003
    so cal
    yawn. law enforcement never expected to find anything substantive on the phone. the whole "we need unlimited access to everything to protect you from terrorism" is, and always has been, a sham.
  7. John Mcgregor Suspended

    John Mcgregor

    Aug 21, 2015
  8. JohnApples macrumors 65816

    Mar 7, 2014
    I love the "positive" spins they're trying to put on the fact that there was nothing of interest on the phone.

    "We found nothing, but good thing we hacked this phone or we'd still be wondering!"

    Reminds me of my paranoid ex girlfriend who I would catch snooping through my phone from time to time, and she'd always defend herself with 'I just needed to know if I had anything to worry about!'
  9. pat500000 macrumors G3


    Jun 3, 2015
    I'm more concern about mac computers then what FBI "discovered" from iphone.
  10. Larry-K macrumors 68000

    Jun 28, 2011
  11. nt5672 macrumors 68000

    Jun 30, 2007
    And we just go merrily along ignoring the fact that the owners of the phone (the government) did not have a master password for their own device and somehow it was up to Apple to fix.
  12. Sasparilla macrumors 6502a

    Jul 6, 2012
    Since the shooters had destroyed their actual 2 personal smartphones (and computer) prior to doing their deeds, there obviously would not be anything on the Work Smartphone (that the manager would have access to) that they chose not to destroy.
  13. Benjamin Frost Suspended

    Benjamin Frost

    May 9, 2015
    London, England
    I would argue that the FBI, in wasting time and resources on this work phone, are helping the cause of terrorism around the world.

    Any sane person would have realised long ago that there would be nothing on this phone of any value, and would therefore concentrate his focus on fighting crime in a more fruitful fashion. The motive for trying to force Apple to hack into it has been seen to be unworthy of the American government, and shows the endemic corruption at the highest level of authority.

    As such, I recommend that James Comey is relieved of his duties.
  14. GadgetDon macrumors 6502


    May 11, 2002
  15. Rogifan macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2011
    I can't wait for the day when stories featuring anonymous sources are not considered newsworthy. Why should we believe what some anonymous person says. How do we know this isn't BS?
  16. Thunderhawks Suspended

    Feb 17, 2009
    They forgot to wake it up.
    --- Post Merged, Apr 19, 2016 ---
    Together with Tim Cook? :)
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    ThunderSkunk macrumors 68030


    Dec 31, 2007
    Colorado & Ontario
    Ok so, I think the lesson here is, if you're gonna go nuts and kill a whole bunch of people, be considerate and microwave your phone first, to save everyone from a lengthy legal & technical Supreme Court vs private industry vs FBI vs US constitution battle royale over what may or may not be on it.

    Really though, if they're going to play the "just being thorough" angle, they ought to go back to 7th grade science class, and familiarize themselves with "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence", and proceed to commandeer every cellphone on earth and hack them to see if there's anything the Shooter deleted from his own phone that may still exist on others phones. Get on it FBI.
  18. thisisnotmyname macrumors 68000


    Oct 22, 2014
    known but velocity indeterminate
    How are they confident there was no contact? Did they get access to their destroyed personal phones and the missing hard drive from their PC?
  19. Benjamin Frost Suspended

    Benjamin Frost

    May 9, 2015
    London, England
    Yes, him, too.
  20. ctdonath macrumors 65816


    Mar 11, 2009
    Simple. Cell phone companies keep records about every call made. Police have no problem getting such records, especially when the phone's owner is a cooperative government agency. Texting and other communications are likewise tracked.

    When the iPhone first came out, people got multi hundred page phone bills documenting internet activity with annoying detail. That was ended out of convenience, not lack of data.
  21. urbanlung macrumors regular


    Jan 24, 2004
    location location, location!
    I can't help but think that Feebs did not in fact break into the said iPhone but claimed that they had because then they wouldn't need Apple to do for them and thus they would save face from having failed to convince the legal machinery to force Apple to do the dirty (which they couldn't anyway). They were not given what they wanted and so have now claimed that they didn't need it anyway. No surprise nothing was found because 1. they did not crack the phone and 2. it wouldn't have had anything anyway.
  22. garirry macrumors 68000


    Apr 27, 2013
    Canada is my city
    If FBI found something (pointless)
    "See Apple? We CAN stop terrorists by finding stuff on the phone! NOW GIVE US THE BACKDOOR!"
    If FBI found nothing
    "Ah, well... There are probably other terrorists hiding stuff on their phones. NOW GIVE US THE BACKDOOR!"
    And this will continue forever...

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