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iPhone Helps India Overtake China as the Leading Manufacturer for U.S. Smartphones
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I bought a 16 pro max from the Apple Store. It was made in India and right out of the box, the titanium was scuffed on the bottom right near the speaker. It ran hot and had many stutters. Returned it for another 16 pro max and this time I got one that was made in china. No issues with scuffs on the enclosure and no heat and stuttering issues. Yes the heat and stuttering could have been software related but having scratches and scuffs on a brand new phone is unacceptable. China has been doing this for so long they’ve perfected it. It takes expertise and experience to manufacture devices like this.
Knowing what I do about India, and anyone th are t questions should do their research, it has nothing to do about politics and more about culture.
Theirs isn’t one of quality as they will always say they can do something even when they haven’t the first clue on how to do it. And the above statement and what others have said about poor quality will result in more returns to Apple as a result. These are simple facts.
Theirs isn’t one of quality as they will always say they can do something even when they haven’t the first clue on how to do it. And the above statement and what others have said about poor quality will result in more returns to Apple as a result. These are simple facts.
GIGO. (garbage in garbage out) could be the operative words on Non-China building of electronics?
yes, because they need to make new and improved profits.Do we really need a new and improved model of last years iPhone every year?
India has discovered a huge stockpile of rare earths last year. But it will take 4-5 years for India to establish a supply chain of refining and transport. Whatever China is doing is a temporary measure and they know it. Eventually, all manufacturing is going to g to India how much ever China tries to stop.
Consistent quality can be an ellusive goal for a country with a what ever attitude by many that are clueless about even the word quality
4-5 years? That’s a very long time and China can still do lots of damage. Besides, is that “huge stockpile of rare earth” enough for the world to use considering China can then permanently ban the export of rare earth. Unless India can somehow completely dominate its refining, I struggle to see how India can win this rare earth war.
You are downplaying the inherent ability of the US to self-destruct. The statesmanship modules were never present in US culture which is still very young and have a lot of growth to do. The "banana republic" sentiment that is sometimes used with regards to the US is just an accurate acknowledgement of that. The culture determines everything, not just the ability of a nation to manufacture iPhones.
Now to give people in US some credit, they understand it at least on some level that they are "hardwired to self-destruct" without necessary being able to explain it.
It is possible though that some people in US are actually proud that they are hardwired to self-destruct which again circles right back to the culture.
We don't. Apple does.Do we really need a new and improved model of last years iPhone every year?
But at some point they can’t keep hoping older iPhone users would eventually upgrade, as eventually multi-generational differences would become small enough that even fewer users would upgrade.
For my uses, we are already there. I used to upgrade every year, then every other year. I have a 15 iPhone Pro Max and I am trying to see why to upgrade and have a hard time seeing how it will make a difference for me with how I use my phone. The camera upgrades are literally the only thing that look interesting to me.
After the “misleading “ sales pitch for the iPhone 16 models, we acquired two top models only to find out the Siri updates and others were vapor ware and after nearly a year are no where to be seen.
We plan to sit out the upgrade cycle for all of our Apple gear for three or four years. Maybe by then some truth might be in Apple’s sales pitches.
We upgraded to the M4 series processors in iPad and laptops. I am keeping the M1 Ultra MacStudio until the operating systems do not work anymore. Apple offered a $1200 trade in on the nearly $8,000 cost of that device the next year. The middle finger expletive applies here.
As an Apple user since 1990, I have become disillusioned in the last few years. I have lost the excitement for the new gear that reflects a color change, port change, processor change with ever more buggy operating systems.
Apple needs to sit out a year and get MacOS truly bug free and operational for all the mentioned selling points on day one of release.
Novel idea, make only provable claims in the sales presentation on release date for both software and hardware. Honesty is a great sales tool.
We plan to sit out the upgrade cycle for all of our Apple gear for three or four years. Maybe by then some truth might be in Apple’s sales pitches.
We upgraded to the M4 series processors in iPad and laptops. I am keeping the M1 Ultra MacStudio until the operating systems do not work anymore. Apple offered a $1200 trade in on the nearly $8,000 cost of that device the next year. The middle finger expletive applies here.
As an Apple user since 1990, I have become disillusioned in the last few years. I have lost the excitement for the new gear that reflects a color change, port change, processor change with ever more buggy operating systems.
Apple needs to sit out a year and get MacOS truly bug free and operational for all the mentioned selling points on day one of release.
Novel idea, make only provable claims in the sales presentation on release date for both software and hardware. Honesty is a great sales tool.
100% - Couldn't agree more with you and how their "breadcrumming" is beyond poorly thought out. Customers stop buying when quality and stability fade.
Why?
The entire theory of capitalism is based on specialization of goods. It is not only inefficient to take, say, electronics manufacturing from Asia and spread it across Africa, Europe, N, and S America, and Australia, it would require such a drastic change in our economic system that our financial system would be unrecognizable. I'm not even a fan of capitalism and I recognize this would be catastrophic.
One of the biggest reasons iphones are made in India is that Apple was unable to expand its business operations there without some domestic manufacturing, which is a requirement of Indian law. That's ok on its face, for India, a country with a billion consumers and similar cost structure as China (assuming it can competitively and adequately produce said products at the volumes and efficiencies needed), but what if every major country did this?
Why should manufacturing a phone NOT be done by those who can make the best phone at the lowest price? Is there a non-emotional reason to demand this?
What is it inherent about "western nations" that they should be the ones to produce phones ( or anything ) ?
I like my cars from Japan, my electronics from China, my wine from France, my clothing from Italy, my watches from Switzerland, my coffee from Central America, and my finished goods from Germany (I was going to say my caviar from Russia but I've only had caviar maybe 4 times ever).
These decisions are entirely non-ideological and based on the capability of each region to produce superb products at competitive prices. It's simply not efficient to set up duplicative industries across each continent for each of these product types, and expect the historical cultural competency to continue. And prices would absolutely explode. But the question is for what benefit?
I really want that to happen, but it seems like technnology became like fashion, where every year, something new must come out.
A long time (40+ years) sober friend often said "I never told a lie that I did not want to be true back in the drinking days!"
That summarizes last year's dog and pony show for the iPhone 16.
Apple went to canned presentations during Covid and has continued them. They have isolated themselves from immediate customer (audience) feedback. I doubt Tim could withstand an audience standing up calling out "BS" in a chant for another set of lies about a devices capability. Thus they go along in their isolated world thinking we bought the BS.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. We will wait to the end of the model year to consider Apple products now to see if any of the marketing claims were actually true. If not true, pass on the products.
I use Siri as a timer on the coffee pot process or text my wife a message. That is a the range of what seems to work and even that is spotty at times. So, AI is pie in the sky for Apple. They are loosing their senior talent and that speaks volumes of what is NOT happening in product development.
And where is the Board of Directors whose extremely well paid one a month job is to give guidance to Tim whose job is to follow their orders? Three letters from the Vietnam war "MIA" missing in action.
That summarizes last year's dog and pony show for the iPhone 16.
Apple went to canned presentations during Covid and has continued them. They have isolated themselves from immediate customer (audience) feedback. I doubt Tim could withstand an audience standing up calling out "BS" in a chant for another set of lies about a devices capability. Thus they go along in their isolated world thinking we bought the BS.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. We will wait to the end of the model year to consider Apple products now to see if any of the marketing claims were actually true. If not true, pass on the products.
I use Siri as a timer on the coffee pot process or text my wife a message. That is a the range of what seems to work and even that is spotty at times. So, AI is pie in the sky for Apple. They are loosing their senior talent and that speaks volumes of what is NOT happening in product development.
And where is the Board of Directors whose extremely well paid one a month job is to give guidance to Tim whose job is to follow their orders? Three letters from the Vietnam war "MIA" missing in action.