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iPhone in Canada in 2 Weeks?

monke said:
The $799 price point is possibly the biggest joke I've ever heard.

a) Our dollar is worth more, the should be nearly equal
b) I could have bought one for $400 and have it unlocked the other day
c) Nobody would buy it, and it would bring down Apple's name

Apple better get up here soon, there's already loads of people with unlocked iPhone's here, they might be too late though.
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I don't believe that it will be too late and a lot of people have iPhones in Canada. When the iPhone reaches the great white north it will sell well to our limited population.
 
James L said:
1) Canada is a small market, compared to Europe and parts of Asia. From a pure profit point of view, it's not a high priority.
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I would, respectfully, disagree with that statement.

We have 4 of our own Apple corporate stores and will soon have Apple mini-stores in many of our Best Buy's. I don't think that we're necessarily "low priority". And Best Buy does carry Fidos' phones, so launching these new stores with a splash like the iPhone right before the holiday's would create a lot of brand interest.

The Holt-Renfrew rumour did seem a little far fetched, though.
 
Swiss Com

Just got back from Switzerland and read an article showing a picture of SwissCom president using an iPhone. Speculation is that SwissCom may be in negotiations with Apple for the phone.
 
Apple estimates there are 250000 unlocked iPhones. With its close proximity to the U.S., I suspect that many of those are in Canada. This should motivate Apple to bring the iPhone to Canada, but I don't know how motivated Rogers will be, and there really is no alternative.

Why, oh why did the CRTC allow Rogers to purchase Fido? The wireless industry in Canada desperately needs some competition.
 
MacinDoc said:
Apple estimates there are 250000 unlocked iPhones. With its close proximity to the U.S., I suspect that many of those are in Canada. This should motivate Apple to bring the iPhone to Canada, but I don't know how motivated Rogers will be, and there really is no alternative.

Why, oh why did the CRTC allow Rogers to purchase Fido? The wireless industry in Canada desperately needs some competition.
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Unfortunately the did... which is why prices for phones in Canada are so high... especially when there is no other major GSM market across the nation...

And just to let all of you know, Rogers next big move is not the iPhone, but the introduction of 3G services (American 3G unfortunately) to almost all major city centers. It is rumored to be annouced in November. The next phone announced should be the HTC Touch.
 
iPhone in Canada

Something tells me that Stevie will want to get as much of the market as possible (and stick it to RIM), thus he will probably make some arrangements to get the iPhone services cost closer to par as possible with the US.

Apple wants to compete, they want an iPhone in as many hands as possible, as opposed to a Nokia.

Apple must know that at $500 we will pony up for the phone (even if that is more than the US version in straight up exchange), but the voice and data plans are going to be the Achilles heal.

With a $50 US plan from AT&T, things don't look all that bad because that is voice and data, not 2 separate plans. For Apple to be able to truly compete in Canada they will have to finagle as much as possible otherwise there is no real deal here, no real motivation aside from a pretty device that business types have.

If there is no equilibrium with the plans, hacked iPhone ahoy! or just keep my current virgin phone, and get a iTouch . Apple gets my money, but Rogers get NADA!, doesn't work out for Rogers or any other carrier; I somehow have ears over at Telus (as in Tell Us We Suck) and something came out that Rogers *MAY NOT* (OH PLEASE GOD!) be getting the iPhone, don't take that as scripture but it is what I heard 3rd party.

What regular consumer who can't write off the expenses of an iPhone is going to buy the device and pay out the nose? Lets put a little practical thought here. Not every 17yo can afford an iPhone, even fewer can afford the cost of ownership. I look at it this way, the people who spend the most on cell phones and cell phone plans are (this may be an oversimplification, but it is how I see it):
1)Business types (Avg bill I hear from my boss types is around $300-500 a month with their RIM devices)
2)Teenagers and Students in general -- Nuf' said.
3)Pretty much everyone else, casual to low usage.

So ...
Group 1 will happen; but slowly since they probably already have a RIMjob and only halfway through their 10 year contract, unless it is important for them to look trendy. Slowest turnover (unless they are like my one ex-boss who constantly broke his phone).
Group 2 - The quickest market to generate revenue; high turnover; can't live without a phone.
Group 3 - Don't really care too much about the iPhone. Slow turnover.

So I think Apple is going to make a strong push somehow to make the iPhone somewhat affordable to use.

I have a little hope for fairness... just a little.
 
James L said:
it's a collection of things, to summarize what has been discussed:

1) Canada is a small market, compared to Europe and parts of Asia.
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Europe isn't a market. Europe is a continent, consisting of a whole lot of very small markets / countries - most of which are much smaller than Canada.
The iPhone, for now, will only be available in the only major economies in Europe (France, Germany and England). All other countries can continue to hope that some day Apple will be willing to sell to them as well.
 
mambodancer said:
Just got back from Switzerland and read an article showing a picture of SwissCom president using an iPhone. Speculation is that SwissCom may be in negotiations with Apple for the phone.
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There's no need to speculate - if you had read the article in its entirety, you would have learned that Swisscom's CEO (Karsten Schloter) bought the iPhone on his recent vacation to the US and is using it with an AT&T contract, paying roaming fees in Switzerland.

Schloter's whole family lives in the US - and he used to as well until he accepted the post as CEO.

His having an iPhone is totally meaningless in terms of iPhones in Switzerland (despite the fact that there's a 99.9% chance that IF the iPhone is every sold here, it will be sold by Swisscom, which has a total monopoly in terms of mobile communications, very much like Rogers in Canada).

So, that was totally off-topic. Sorry about that.

kis
 
Canadian iphone coming... in a contest

Saw this in google news:

Link

The main points:
- iPhone is valued at $800.00 (not including network subscription)
- Carrier is Rogers (knew that already)
- contest only open to residents of Quebec :mad:
 
ac6789 said:
Saw this in google news:

Link

The main points:
- iPhone is valued at $800.00 (not including network subscription)
- Carrier is Rogers (knew that already)
- contest only open to residents of Quebec :mad:
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iPhone have been removed from Molson's contest.
 
When Apple release the iPhone, they will do it like everywhere else.

Announce that the iPhone which will be shipping later at another date
Announce the price and phone plans

And no, iPhone will NOT cost $800 in Canada.
 
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