True, but even better photography is about lighting and angles. You cant get enough light into a tiny sensor to create a great photo, nor can you get more than one fish eyed angle with a cell phone lens. No one will be blown away by a pic taken with an iPhone, I am sorry.
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iPhone is Revolutionizing Photography
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True, but even better photography is about lighting and angles. You cant get enough light into a tiny sensor to create a great photo, nor can you get more than one fish eyed angle with a cell phone lens. No one will be blown away by a pic taken with an iPhone, I am sorry.
The people who keep bringing up quality need to look at the Flip video cameras. They SUCK compared to the larger camcorders from Canon and Sony, but people are flocking to them because they're smaller and easier. The Flip is killing the camcorder business and soon it will be killed by cell phones for exactly the same reason. Doesn't matter if it's not as good...they're smaller and easier.
There will still be "point-and-shoot" cameras, ovbiously. I said they'll be hurt...not killed entirely. But there will only be the "nice" ones. The ones that cost $400.
The cheap-o ones that cost $150 won't exist much longer. If you're cheap you'll just use your cell phone. If you want something better then you'll REALLY want something better and will spend more. Camera prices will go UP (on average) as the bottom of the market vanishes.
The iPhone 4 will never replace my digital camera
That is a sweet Nikon....
Side note- I wonder how much faster the camera app will load with the 1ghz processor?
I also wonder if we will still be able to double tap the home button to reach the camera as an option. I know that this was supposed to pull up the "multitasking" bar. Maybe Steve has an option to triple-tap for the quick launch app.
I am betting the processor will make all just a little faster. The OS and how well it works will tell much
iPhone 4 won't reduce my DSLR usage; but what it will have a major impact on is video. I haven't carried a video camera around for years and was going to get a Flip, because it works great for what I want. I was going to get the Flip, but once I heard about the HD video coming on the iPhone 4, I didn't get one. This will seriously hurt the Flip business plan.
The iPhone 4 will never replace my digital camera
The problem with these cameras is they prevent you from doing things, you can't take it on a roller coaster ride at an amusement park for example, unless you have another person to watch the camera.
I think the casual user will see less and less use from a camera, and more and more use from their phone.
Your nikon doesn't upload it's videos and pictures to facebook with one push of the screen does it? That's going to be another huge drawback.
There'll always be traditionalists that will want their super high quality pictures and features, but digital cameras are a dying breed of cameras... only the strong will survive.
I agree with people that currently cell phone cameras won't replace a stand alone camera for people really into photography, but... for people like me, that only take pictures to show something, or post on the net, it has forced my canon into the desk drawer where it is collecting dust. I can only image this will be amplified 10 fold once i get the new iphone, and even more so as the technology gets better.
I'm happy that the iphone is getting HD video recording! I don't take a lot of pictures, but I do watch YouTube and if the iPhone has this feature other phones will follow/improve the video recording
so the quality of video on youtube is bound to get better and better
I like to go to see bands and I always bring my iphone to get a few shots, and now it'll be easier than ever to get good shots, thanks to the flash.
Hardware improvements like the new camera really make me happy, cause as far as photography goes I'm just another dude taking a picture, I don't know anything about lenses and whatnot.
so the quality of video on youtube is bound to get better and better I like to go to see bands and I always bring my iphone to get a few shots, and now it'll be easier than ever to get good shots, thanks to the flash.
Hardware improvements like the new camera really make me happy, cause as far as photography goes I'm just another dude taking a picture, I don't know anything about lenses and whatnot.
I'm an amateur photographer, and as an iPhone owner, it's great for me because I don't always want to lug around my DSLR. I don't use a point and shoot camera enough to justify spending money on just taking "fun" pictures. Although when I'm out shooting landscape/cityscape photo's, I refrain from using my iPhone at all. My DSLR will do all the work. Revolutionizing photography? I don't think so. But I think it's great that I can actually take a fun image of something, edit it a little on my iPhone, and print it out to a 4x6 or 5x7 size photo. But for my serious work, I'll stick to my DSLR.
Doubtful because of two things, bitrate and compression. The iPhone video is going to be very highly compressed. Your average 720 video at 24mbps is about 350MB a minute uncompressed. Obviously there is no way the iPhone can handle that. If Apple is smart, the videos will be in MOV format and compressed with h.264 which is what I use for my HD videos. Even then, it will still have to be very highly compressed for the iPhone, it will be nowhere close to the quality of even a Flip let alone a real videocamera. Its not hurting anyone's business.
I actually don't think the compression will be that much of an issue, again anything made using an iPhone will be destined for the web; so no matter what, the video would end up very compressed anyway.
In addition, color correction is usually one of the most compression hindered parts of post production. I doubt many people will really be doing this with iPhone footage, or if mobile iMovie will even offer it.
Agree 100%
The OP is right about this. Don't confuse the medium of artistic expression known as "photography" with the method of capturing and recording life's events which is also sometimes known as "photography". Cell phone cameras will revolutionize the latter and, most likely, have little impact on the former. I've been slowly coming to this realization as a former novice photo geek. My fancy toys have pretty much been relegated to the shelf, used only for pre-meditated artistic expression or athletic events for which I need the length of a zoom lens and the shutter speed of an advanced DSLR.
More and more of my family's life is being captured by whatever is available. Lately my high end point and shoot camera has been nudged out by my iphone. I know that trend will continue no matter which smart phone I choose. They'll continue to wring out improvements in quality (megapixels, sensor improvements, whatever) in order to accomodate the form factor of a smart phone. I'm usually behind the curve. I swore that I'd never give up film for digital. I was wrong about that. This I'm not wrong about. In a matter of years the casual point and shoot will have gone the way of the dodo, or, perhaps more appropriately, the way of the 35mm Film camera.
The OP is right about this. Don't confuse the medium of artistic expression known as "photography" with the method of capturing and recording life's events which is also sometimes known as "photography". Cell phone cameras will revolutionize the latter and, most likely, have little impact on the former. I've been slowly coming to this realization as a former novice photo geek. My fancy toys have pretty much been relegated to the shelf, used only for pre-meditated artistic expression or athletic events for which I need the length of a zoom lens and the shutter speed of an advanced DSLR.
More and more of my family's life is being captured by whatever is available. Lately my high end point and shoot camera has been nudged out by my iphone. I know that trend will continue no matter which smart phone I choose. They'll continue to wring out improvements in quality (megapixels, sensor improvements, whatever) in order to accomodate the form factor of a smart phone. I'm usually behind the curve. I swore that I'd never give up film for digital. I was wrong about that. This I'm not wrong about. In a matter of years the casual point and shoot will have gone the way of the dodo, or, perhaps more appropriately, the way of the 35mm Film camera.
Dude, no it wont, thats laughable. Thats like saying PS and Xbox are going to become obsolete because you can play video games on your cell phone. Never, ever going to happen and cell phones will never, ever replace a camera.
I think you're underestimating the progress that a few years time will make on the quality of cell phone snapshots. Other than my own experience I know several people who have retired their casual use camera in exchange for their cell phone camera (iphone 3GS). I'm talking about point and shoot here. Not advanced photo composition. Quite clearly, in many cases, cell phones have already replaced cameras. I take about 200 pictures a month with my iphone. My Lumix FZ3 hasn't been used in quite a while.
But dude...it's Apple.
I wonder though...if Jobs and co. found a way to install some wheels on the bottom of the iPad, might they find a way to take over the skateboard industry? Call me crazy...but I think they just might be able to make that happen.
And unless they make the Evo 2 an inch thick and put a decent sensor in there, the stills and video are going to look like crap.