I feel as though there are third party phones that are perhaps more secure but are less easy to acquire than an iPhone. Perhaps military/government-grade private use technology. Commercially, the iPhone seems to be the choice.
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iPhone is the safest and secured phone
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P.S.: This is the safest and secured phone:
That's debatable. This is safer but still not safest.
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You're not a security guy.
Some specialized apps require it like Wicap packet capture analyzer.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.evbadroid.wicap
That's debatable. This is safer but still not safest.
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You're not a security guy.
Some specialized apps require it like Wicap packet capture analyzer.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.evbadroid.wicap
It is basically a hacking tool, make sense you need to root right? Root is not jailbreak.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking
"iOS jailbreaking is the process of removing software restrictions imposed by Apple on iOS and tvOS. It does this by using a series of software exploits. Jailbreaking permits root access to iOS, allowing the downloading and installation of additional applications, extensions, and themes that are unavailable through the official Apple App Store."
Rooting is not jailbreaking. Rooting will void your Samsung warranty, but jailbreaks can be undone and restored to stock and doesn't void the Apple warranty. In addition rooting doesn't depends on exploits.
Rooting doesn't void warranty as you can unroot the phone.
Rooting and jailbreaks are the same thing.
People say that, but the reality is that 90% plus of all mobile malware is for android.
Proprietary code doesn't necessarily make something insecure it simply means you can't audit it yourself.
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P.S.: This is the safest and secured phone:
Actually probably not due to massive flaws in the previous generation mobile network protocols. The handset might be secure but your calls are much easier to listen in on.
As to land-lines... nah.
I can listen in on your stuff with minimal equipment.
We were talking about safety not from eavesdropping prospective.
Any "stuff" can be listened in with minimal effort.
No, I would claim no, I have not had, nor know of anyone who has had a security issue with an Android handset, just leave the install from unknown applications setting to off, don't visit dodgy websites and your fine.
Also you need to remember, Apples iCloud has been hacked a few times, as reported in the media, so it's not as secure as you claim because that's where the iPhone automatically backs up to. I don't give Apple kudos for that!
Their are some funny claims in this thread with no proof to back them up. I'll go by my personal experience and what I've learnt, much more reliable
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Rooting trips the Knox counter and voids warranty the latest Samsung Galaxy phones. It will even disable Samsung Pay forever. Knox counter cannot be reset ever.
This statement is extremely deceptive as there are many things to consider. For starters, Android has almost 87% of the mobile OS market while iOS has about 13%. Makes sense Android would have the majority of the malware.
Second, adware is not really malicious but it makes up a huge portion of malware. Once you've downloaded an app that bothers you with ads, it's generally easy to just uninstall the app to get rid of that malware.
Lastly, an overwhelming majority of the malware on Android comes from third party (Chinese) app stores. F-Secure found that only 0.1% of apps on the Play Store had malware (and again, adware is also considered malware), but they don't last long due to rigorous checks. Download your apps from the Play Store instead of trying to get paid apps for free from other sources and you'll be fine on Android.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordon...s-is-the-easy-way-you-stay-safe/#6e1b77ff2d4f
BTW, to those talking about rooting vs. jailbreaking, it's the same thing. They both give you root access. The only difference is that one installs another app store on your phone to get you started and the other doesn't need to.
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I'm talking about number of strains, not total infections.
Also, given Android is partially open source, that should make it more secure right? At least that's what many like to claim regarding open vs. closed source.
Don't forget the tablet market in your figures, which also runs iOS, and don't forget that yearly sales numbers are not total devices in use.
I'm talking actual malware. The sort that steals your data, uses your device for bitcoin mining, or as a launchpad to infect other stuff.
Not adware.
The statistics are out there, i saw them in an MDM whitepaper i read a couple of years ago. I'm not going to go looking for it now, but i'm sure your own research will confirm.
Doesn't really matter where it comes from. The reason people buy android (in part) is because they want to be able to install third party apps. Blaming the "feature" that most users switch to the platform for, for all the malware is a bit of a stretch.
Besides, there has been plenty of malware found in the play store.
I'm talking about number of strains, not total infections.
Doesn't matter. More market share makes it a bigger target.
Also, given Android is partially open source, that should make it more secure right? At least that's what many like to claim regarding open vs. closed source.
Since Android allows sideloading applications, if a user chooses to do that and installs malware on their device, that's their fault. Don't install apps from other sources and you'll be fine.
Don't forget the tablet market in your figures, which also runs iOS, and don't forget that yearly sales numbers are not total devices in use.
Okay?
I'm talking actual malware. The sort that steals your data, uses your device for bitcoin mining, or as a launchpad to infect other stuff.
Not adware.
Except the data you're referencing includes adware in malware, so I'm not going to just accept your assumptions that non-adware malware on Android is disproportional.
The statistics are out there, i saw them in an MDM whitepaper i read a couple of years ago. I'm not going to go looking for it now, but i'm sure your own research will confirm.
"A couple of years ago" lol no further comment.
Doesn't really matter where it comes from. The reason people buy android (in part) is because they want to be able to install third party apps. Blaming the "feature" that most users switch to the platform for, for all the malware is a bit of a stretch.
This is the most ignorant thing you've said so far. I'm not even going to entertain this foolish comment.
Besides, there has been plenty of malware found in the play store.
I already addressed this...
Doesn't matter. More market share makes it a bigger target.
Also, given Android is partially open source, that should make it more secure right? At least that's what many like to claim regarding open vs. closed source.
Since Android allows sideloading applications, if a user chooses to do that and installs malware on their device, that's their fault. Don't install apps from other sources and you'll be fine.
Don't forget the tablet market in your figures, which also runs iOS, and don't forget that yearly sales numbers are not total devices in use.
Okay?
I'm talking actual malware. The sort that steals your data, uses your device for bitcoin mining, or as a launchpad to infect other stuff.
Not adware.
Except the data you're referencing includes adware in malware, so I'm not going to just accept your assumptions that non-adware malware on Android is disproportional.
The statistics are out there, i saw them in an MDM whitepaper i read a couple of years ago. I'm not going to go looking for it now, but i'm sure your own research will confirm.
"A couple of years ago" lol no further comment.
Doesn't really matter where it comes from. The reason people buy android (in part) is because they want to be able to install third party apps. Blaming the "feature" that most users switch to the platform for, for all the malware is a bit of a stretch.
This is the most ignorant thing you've said so far. I'm not even going to entertain this foolish comment.
Besides, there has been plenty of malware found in the play store.
I already addressed this...
0.1% is 1 in 1000 applications having malware.
Its now 98% of malware targeting android
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...-mobile-malware-targets-android-platform.html
From kaspersky
Android is the Windows 98 of mobile. It has made similar mistakes to Windows back in the day with regards to application security.
Various android handsets are even pre-loaded
http://www.valuewalk.com/2017/04/android-mobile-malware/
iOS was far more popular than android as a smartphone platform initially. it did not become a malware breeding ground, because of the precautions Apple made with regards to application install, certificates and built in security measures in the hardware.
Its now 98% of malware targeting android
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...-mobile-malware-targets-android-platform.html
From kaspersky
Android is the Windows 98 of mobile. It has made similar mistakes to Windows back in the day with regards to application security.
Various android handsets are even pre-loaded
http://www.valuewalk.com/2017/04/android-mobile-malware/
iOS was far more popular than android as a smartphone platform initially. it did not become a malware breeding ground, because of the precautions Apple made with regards to application install, certificates and built in security measures in the hardware.
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You are not safe downloading from Google Play Store either:
Is Google Play Safe?
Trojan found in more than 100 Android apps on Google Play Store
False.
Rooting gives you full access to your device on a level exponentially greater than Jailbreaking. In fact, anything achieved by Jailbreaking an iPhone is available on stock Android. Rooting gives access to the system and beyond. A user can affect even top level files on the device. In recovery mode you can download and install a custom ROM. You can alter any and all hardware as well as software settings... etc.
This does not seem to be "the same thing", does it?
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Don't forget the large number of vulnerabilities found in home consumer routers. Then all the IoT devices that you have in your home.
Drive by exploits are not just visiting sites that are questionable really.
What do you make of how Twitter posts with link to a topic you've shown interest in that then compromised the user? Doesn't appear to have been Android only either.
U asked but got ok my one response on security. We take a lot of that walked garden on hearsay and faith. iOS doesn't tell you what or why in some cases, only to do hard reset or take into Store if fa Tory reset doesn't solve "it."
Drive by exploits are not just visiting sites that are questionable really.
What do you make of how Twitter posts with link to a topic you've shown interest in that then compromised the user? Doesn't appear to have been Android only either.
U asked but got ok my one response on security. We take a lot of that walked garden on hearsay and faith. iOS doesn't tell you what or why in some cases, only to do hard reset or take into Store if fa Tory reset doesn't solve "it."
I can post links without explaining things, too.
http://www.darkreading.com/applicat...-incident-trouble-in-paradise-/a/d-id/1324016
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34338362
Wrong. Just because Android offers the main features for jailbreaking out of the box doesn't mean it can do everything a jailbroken iPhone can do without root. Rooting gives you root access. Jailbreaking gives you root access. Jailbreaking just does more by allowing installing other apps Apple won't approve while Android already offers this feature by default.
Custom ROMs are a completely different topic. You can't install custom ROMs because rooting is somehow more powerful than jailbreaking. Android is open source, which allows people to modify it how they want. You can't build a custom iOS ROM regardless of what permission you have on your device.
Speaking solely to custom ROMs and jailbreaking…
The major difference between current jailbreaks and those available pre iPhone 4s are because of the type of exploit. With the iPhone 4 and below there is a bootrom exploit that will never be patched. That enables things like running Android and verbose boot on an iPhone.
Since the iPhone 4s though, Apple patched the bootrom exploit. All jailbreaks since then have had to cobble together a series of different exploits that affect only the running system (userland). Hence, you are not able to do these kinds of things now.
If the current bootrom could be exploited, everything would change. But that's like trying to find a unicorn on the moon.
Lazy to read? Shame.
You missed the train.
These statements remain false. Rooting gives you full control over hardware and software, whilst jailbreaking doesn't.
The only difference between the two is not only the additional app store, but the "superuser" abilities that you gain with Android root.
Lazy to explain? Shame. I did read it which is why I know either you didn't or didn't comprehend it.
You don't even know what superuser means.
Root is superuser.
That's not what the internet says about the s8.
Rooting and jailbreaking are not the same thing. Rooting doesn't depend on exploits as as explained above by @eyoungren doesn't alter the boot loader.
Don't be so cheap. Keep trying relying on facts. More effective.
And says it who? You, who declared that rooting and jailbreaking is "the same thing" and "the only difference is that jailbreaking adds an additional app store"?
You make me smile. Spare my time linking banalities.
Thank you.
I hope Mr. Channan finally will listen at least to you and @eyoungren
You added nothing to the argument. Just had to get the last word in, which would be ironic if I actually had anything worth responding to.
@i7, eyoung already said that hasn't been the case since the iPhone 4. Also, rooting does depend on exploits if the OEM doesn't provide the ability to root.