iPhone Just Ate the Incredible for Lunch

[STEVESKI07]

Apple is usually conservative with the spec claims where as other phone companies spec claims are usually far fetched.

If Apple claims the iPhone standby time is 300 hours, you will most likely get 300 hours of standby. If HTC claims the standby time is 149 hours, I wouldn't expect to ever come close to that. Yes, you will get much better battery life from the iPhone then any Android device. That is a fact. You don't go to Android to find a more polished OS or better battery life, you go there because you want the freedom to do more things and don't mind some occasional hiccups or screen unresponsiveness or lag. Or you go there so you can continue to post on the Apple forums to try to convince yourself that you made a good choice when your clearly unsure since you are still here.

 

[Compile 'em all]

LOL I'm sorry man we arn't all unpleasant, I think we all have been anxiously waiting this phone, and when someone new comes in and says something a little.

Talk for yourself.

 

[themat]

Apple is usually conservative with the spec claims where as other phone companies spec claims are usually far fetched.

If Apple claims the iPhone standby time is 300 hours, you will most likely get 300 hours of standby. If HTC claims the standby time is 149 hours, I wouldn't expect to ever come close to that. Yes, you will get much better battery life from the iPhone then any Android device. That is a fact.

Sorry but thats absolute bollocks, for a start, Apples battery life claims are usually not accurate at all or if they are its only a handful of people who achieve it, just check the Macbook Pro/Macbook/iPhone forums.

Secondly, how can you say its a fact that you'll get better battery life out of an iPhone? Got any evidence? Because from my experience i get better battery life out of my android device than I did out of my 3G and my mate does currently out of his 3GS. The important thing is that it could be exactly the other way round for someone else, its all about how you use the phone, so don't start throwing your opinion round as if its fact.

 

[kdarling]

Apple is usually conservative with the spec claims where as other phone companies spec claims are usually far fetched.

Usually quite the opposite. I've found that RIM usually understates their battery life, for example.

Apple's specs use artificial conditions for their testing. In the past they noted that they were using internal test cell sites, for instance. Sometimes they used only the best low power frequencies as well.

Even now, to calculate the Internet Use Over 3G time, they list these as the conditions:

Testing conducted by Apple in May 2010 using preproduction iPhone 4 units and software.

Internet over 3G tests were conducted over a 3G network using dedicated web and mail servers, browsing snapshot versions of 20 popular web pages, and receiving mail once an hour.

All settings were default except: Call Forwarding was turned on; the Wi-Fi feature Ask to Join Networks and Auto-Brightness were turned off.

They've reworded the test specs to obfuscate what they do, but again from past specs they do this:

Connect to a dedicated cell site (less power loss searching for a signal such as when moving), and go from there to dedicated servers (much less latency). From those servers, they access 20 prestored web pages every hour, and check for mail once an hour.

No push mail. No push notifications. No DNS lookups. No real web surfing. No latency, tower handoff, obstructions, etc.

The controlled conditions allow comparison between iPhone models, but do not allow good comparison to other phones or real life.

 

[Pared]

Standby time is how you're judging the phone? REALLY? "Hey let's see how long my phone lasts if I never touch it!"

LOL

There's no real point to these threads. Just a bunch of mud-slinging left and right. Seems like no one actually wants to discuss the actual iPhone and what it can do.

If you have used an iPad, you'd know their claims are quite believable, perhaps under-estimates. Otherwise, you're just wasting storage space on the forum's servers.

 

[Damitri]

It's actually a pretty good illustration of fundamental differences in philosophy between iOS and Android. On an iPhone you don't have to "get a clue" and change default settings or remove widgets in order to have good battery life. Some people don't mind tweaking their phones for best performance, some do.

Exactly.

The release of iPhone 4 actually made me take a serious look at current Android phones for the first time. I just wanted to see what all the fuzz was about. I love my 3Gs and have no intention of switching but it never hurts to educate yourself, right?

What I learned reminds me so much of the eternal PC vs Mac debate in that Apple always lose if you just make a check list of features (maybe not with iPhone 4 right now but give it another 6 months and HTC will leap-frog...). BUT if you look at the whole package with software, sexy hardware, the engineering effort and the thought that goes into Apple products at least for me there is no contest.

Buy any PC and you have to start by uninstalling all the crapware that comes pre-installed, remove 15 stickers from the poorly built plastic case and probably install third-party security software. Get an Android phone and you have to uninstall battery draining widgets and install third party task killers (thanks Apple for not including "real" multitasking in iOS4!!). On the other hand you gain a lot of freedom compared to using Apple products. But you have to be at least a little bit of a techie to get the most out of it.

Each to his own I guess but we all sure benefit from this competition.

Apple still sucks at the internet though but I hope that server park in NC will remedy that soon enough...