"iPhone killer" - I think this is a stupid phrase... opinions?

glossywhite

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Hey all!. As an iPhone & iPod touch user, I am just about sick to the back teeth of constantly hearing about the next "iPhone killer" that some or other asian cellphone manufacturer is releasing. I am curious to hear people's opinions on the subject... will anyone ever make a REAL "iPhone killer", or do they just feel threatened?.

My friend is about to trade in his crappy SE C905, but touted the 8Mp camera as a plus point... well is that the ONLY reason, to stick with a rubbish phone that has gone in for repair, THREE times?.

I'll update this post later - just wanted to start the ball rolling - do they not get that the REASON iPhone is a success, is because of OS X at the core?
 

pintnight

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Hey all!. As an iPhone & iPod touch user, I am just about sick to the back teeth of constantly hearing about the next "iPhone killer" that some or other asian cellphone manufacturer is releasing. I am curious to hear people's opinions on the subject... will anyone ever make a REAL "iPhone killer", or do they just feel threatened?.

My friend is about to trade in his crappy SE C905, but touted the 8Mp camera as a plus point... well is that the ONLY reason, to stick with a rubbish phone that has gone in for repair, THREE times?.

I'll update this post later - just wanted to start the ball rolling - do they not get that the REASON iPhone is a success, is because of OS X at the core?
Have you heard about the next iPhone killer that RIM is going to release next year?
 

AAPLaday

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Its a sign of the success of the iPhone that so many companies hold it as the one they must beat. Theres no doubt Apple upped the ante with it. Doesn't bother me hearing it though as im used to hearing it over and over. :)
 

sidewinder

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It's not a stupid phrase at all. It is the ultimate compliment to the iPhone that companies are looking to produce an "iPhone killer". It means the iPhone is the standard by which other smart phones are compared.

So far, no supposed "iPhone killer" has been that.

S-
 

crimsonlung

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The real iphone killer

If you think about it, there is many phones out there that have certain aspects that are far superior to the IPhone. Take the Sprint Instict for one, labeled the Ïphone Killer" since its inception. It didn't kill the Iphone, but, it many ways, it is better then the Iphone. The touch screen keyboard for one is one of the best in its class. The screen size and shape are far superior, and the application load times are almost instant.

But, the Iphone does have a headphone jack, which is kinda cool I guess.
 

crimsonlung

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It's not a stupid phrase at all. It is the ultimate compliment to the iPhone that companies are looking to produce an "iPhone killer". It means the iPhone is the standard by which other smart phones are compared.

So far, no supposed "iPhone killer" has been that.

S-
Actually, the HTC touch pro 1 and 2 are far superior then the Iphone. Just do your research, even the G1 can do more then the iphone 3gs and it came out a year before.

Iphone is not industry standard, and probably will never be.
 

sinsin07

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If you think about it, there is many phones out there that have certain aspects that are far superior to the IPhone. Take the Sprint Instict for one, labeled the Ïphone Killer" since its inception. It didn't kill the Iphone, but, it many ways, it is better then the Iphone. The touch screen keyboard for one is one of the best in its class. The screen size and shape are far superior, and the application load times are almost instant.

But, the Iphone does have a headphone jack, which is kinda cool I guess.
One comment, your "screen size and shape" statement is subjective, not fact.

A bucket of water is a real "iPhone killer".
This is the only true statement I see posted here that is easily verifiable. ;)
 

TeamDNA

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If you think about it, there is many phones out there that have certain aspects that are far superior to the IPhone. Take the Sprint Instict for one, labeled the Ïphone Killer" since its inception. It didn't kill the Iphone, but, it many ways, it is better then the Iphone. The touch screen keyboard for one is one of the best in its class. The screen size and shape are far superior, and the application load times are almost instant.

But, the Iphone does have a headphone jack, which is kinda cool I guess.
are you serious??? you need to go troll somewhere else..NO phone can beat the iphone at this time ..

oh and give very DETAILED reasons as to why you think other phones are better ..not just the screen is better..say exactly WHY its better from a technological standpoint
 

Abyssgh0st

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Yes, I hate it. It's a misnomer, because it incentuates that something that is the best can be bested by anything but itself.

That's like having a "God killer", "WalMart killer", "Ferrari killer", and so on.
 

charliehustle

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Hey all!. As an iPhone & iPod touch user, I am just about sick to the back teeth of constantly hearing about the next "iPhone killer" that some or other asian cellphone manufacturer is releasing. I am curious to hear people's opinions on the subject... will anyone ever make a REAL "iPhone killer", or do they just feel threatened?.

My friend is about to trade in his crappy SE C905, but touted the 8Mp camera as a plus point... well is that the ONLY reason, to stick with a rubbish phone that has gone in for repair, THREE times?.

I'll update this post later - just wanted to start the ball rolling - do they not get that the REASON iPhone is a success, is because of OS X at the core?
in the Tech industry, things move so fast, and one day you could be dominating, and next thing you know, you're the worst performing company in the sector..
with tech, anyone can "invent" something new, patent it, and destroy it's competitors..
I'm not saying this is going to happen soon, but it's just a matter of time someone comes out with a better product..

thats why you don't see conservative investors such as Warren Buffet invest any money in technology companies..because things change very very quickly in that sector..
 

glossywhite

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does this really bother you?

for me, i dont really care. i buy what best suits me
Define "bother". It doesn't bother me, as-in annoy me, it just makes me chuckle, to think that any of these half-arsed mobile phone manufacturers could make anything as good, on a whim, now that iPhone exists. HOW many years have Nokia had Symbian for, and how many times has it crashed and burned?... rhetorical question, by the way. You'd think the once market LEADER of mobile handsets, would at least be able to see that just tacking on a touchscreen and upping the megapixel count, is NOT the way to beat the iPhone - they have had long enough to get it right, and simply using your once respected brand name to prop you up, is NOT the way to make good handsets.

It is testament to the Apple way of thinking about form and function, that their first EVER foray into the cellphone market, should immediately trounce the devices of companies who have had handsets in production for many, many years. When did Motorola EVER produce a handset that had wow factor, and HOW long have they been around?. I thought Android was going to give iPhone a run for its money?... that didn't happen, did it!.
 

iHateMacs

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iPhone Killer sounds like a great name for a serial killer who uses an iPhone to kill people.

I can see the reports now.

"Judy Regan from Boston MA was found dead at her home today. Police believe the killing to be the work of the so called iPhone Killer. Forensic examinations are still in the preliminary stages but first reports indicate she choked to death on a 4gb 1st Generation iphone. Police have confirmed the iPhone did not belong to Judy Regan and are trying to trace the owner of the iPhone.

This is the fifth homicide in as many weeks where an iPhone was used as the weapon. MA police admit they are stumped and deny rumours that Steve Jobs was questioned. "
 

glossywhite

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iPhone Killer sounds like a great name for a serial killer who uses an iPhone to kill people.

I can see the reports now.

"Judy Regan from Boston MA was found dead at her home today. Police believe the killing to be the work of the so called iPhone Killer. Forensic examinations are still in the preliminary stages but first reports indicate she choked to death on a 4gb 1st Generation iphone. Police have confirmed the iPhone did not belong to Judy Regan and are trying to trace the owner of the iPhone.

This is the fifth homicide in as many weeks where an iPhone was used as the weapon. MA police admit they are stumped and deny rumours that Steve Jobs was questioned. "
Not that I care, nor am I gonna flame you, but why "iHateMacs", if you're on a Mac forum?.
 

rdowns

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Before the iPhone killers, we had the iPod killers. Funny, none of them were even able to get arrested for a misdemeanor, let alone a killing. :D
 

grantsdale

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Hey all!. As an iPhone & iPod touch user, I am just about sick to the back teeth of constantly hearing about the next "iPhone killer" that some or other asian cellphone manufacturer is releasing. I am curious to hear people's opinions on the subject... will anyone ever make a REAL "iPhone killer", or do they just feel threatened?.

My friend is about to trade in his crappy SE C905, but touted the 8Mp camera as a plus point... well is that the ONLY reason, to stick with a rubbish phone that has gone in for repair, THREE times?.

I'll update this post later - just wanted to start the ball rolling - do they not get that the REASON iPhone is a success, is because of OS X at the core?
The phone itself isn't the killer anymore, its the App Store. So unless someone comes up with an 'App Store killer', the iPhone stays on top.
 

crpercodani

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The phone itself isn't the killer anymore, its the App Store. So unless someone comes up with an 'App Store killer', the iPhone stays on top.
Exactly. When the 1st gen came out it was groundbreaking, but now many other manufacturers have devices with bigger screens and better internals. The new motorola android phone is looking to be a "iphone killer" lol, android needs time to grow as it is so new and unlike apple it is a new name also. Apple has been around for how long? Android is less then 2 years old and just about a year on a device, the g1 was a nice starting point but it didn't have the design that grabbed your eyes. The moto sholes aka tao aka droid is a badass phone and if you haven't heard about it then google it. Nokia's new N900 is looking really nice too with Maemo 5 and being linux based it will be very easy to develop for.

But none of that matters unless those OS's have a big following and dev's willing to really get it going. Android has it's market which is somewhere around 6k-7k apps strong and if you do the math for the amount of units sold vs iphone and factored in the time they have been out it is definitely the iphones most likely competitor. Time will only tell what happens next and no matter how much you or I love our iphones we don't have psychic capabilities so we will just have to wait and see.

A side question for everyone, if the iPhone wasn't around or never came out what phone would you be using currently/anticipating?
 

cocky jeremy

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I don’t care when i hear about a new “iPhone killer” because i know it’s just going to be another POS that fails massively. Just like the Pre.

“Yeah, we’re going to sell 117,000 Pres per week!!… okay.. maybe 25k.. and maybe a third of them get returned but.. well.. ****!”

lolol. :apple:
 

Niiro13

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Actually, the HTC touch pro 1 and 2 are far superior then the Iphone. Just do your research, even the G1 can do more then the iphone 3gs and it came out a year before.

Iphone is not industry standard, and probably will never be.
Yeah, but the OP did say that the companies should realize it's the OS and the core. I love the HTC Touch Pro and 2 (maybe 2 as opposed to 1) but Windows Mobile just doesn't work for me. It's the OS that suits my needs, but the smooth application opening of OSX, etc. make it seem faster and if not, at least makes it look nicer as opposed to seeing like 4 fps of an ugly cartoonish window drawing.

A side question for everyone, if the iPhone wasn't around or never came out what phone would you be using currently/anticipating?
HTC Touch Pro2 (or maybe the Palm Pre...haven't tried either [or for Palm, haven't tried as much] but have tried Touch Pro)