iPhone N94 Prototype Back Cover - Is this actually the iPhone 5?

[KnightWRX]

Every UI scaling mechanism I have seen in practice has some weird artefacts. There is a reason UI designers still create their icons as bitmaps and not as scalar graphics. How do you scale a one pixel hairline by 20%? You either use aliasing which changes it from sharp to a bit blurry or you leave it at one pixel which changes its proportions relative to the rest of the UI. UI scaling will start working (from a visual point of view) when the thinnest UI element is multiple pixels large.

Back in the real world, it works fine. Sure you can make up dozens of scenarios where it doesn't, but as we all know, theory rarely translates into practice.

Again, problems that were faced decades ago and solved decades ago.

What financial incentive would Apple have for continuing to use the A4? I would think it would be cheaper for them to streamline their processor manufacturing to a single chip. Both are made on the same 45 nm tech and the A5 has been in production for over half a year, so why not use it in a cheaper model as well?

The A4 probably has higher yields than the A5, thus lower cost to produce and hence, Samsung charges Apple less per A4 than they do per A5. The 3GS did not get an A4 in 2010. Think about that.

 

[greenmeanie]

I don't remember lagging on my iPhone 4.
I would rather have more space.

 

[manu chao]

And frankly, the same resolution and UI would work just fine on a 3.5" and a 4.0" device, the problem isn't as bad as you state it is.

Sure, they work fine but they are not optimal on both sizes. If they are optimal on the smaller size, they are not making optimal use of the larger device and vice versa.
If you want your 4" device to be exactly like your 3.5" device but just viewed through a magnifying glass, then this is easy to implement.

 

[KnightWRX]

Sure, they work fine but they are not optimal on both sizes. If they are optimal on the smaller size, they are not making optimal use of the larger device and vice versa.

You're talking about that last 10%, you know the one, the one that costs 90% to implement. I'm talking about the first 90%, you know, the one that costs 10% to implement.

The point is, the same UI at the same resolution on a 3.5" or 4.0" device works just fine, even if the elements are a bit smaller on the 3.5" screen and bigger on the 4.0" one.

 

[manu chao]

Back in the real world, it works fine. Sure you can make up dozens of scenarios where it doesn't, but as we all know, theory rarely translates into practice.

Again, problems that were faced decades ago and solved decades ago.

You mean back in the real world where Android devices and apps just never looked quite as good and polished as iOS (and WebOS) devices? Or back in the real world where Windows (with its UI scaling) just never looked as polished as OS X?

These decades you refer to never had to deal with touch targets (which simply cannot be scaled that much) and they never had to deal with such small screens where a UI really benefitted from being optimised for exactly a screen size and resolution.

 

[Sedrick]

Once the front is shattered, it doesn't really matter to me whether the back is also shattered. I'd get it repaired anyway, and the cost is probably not very much higher.

You're ignoring all the drops that result in only the backs shattering.

ask HTC...they come out with often times over 5 new designs PER YEAR. Apple can manage 1

I really like the HTC phones. If the iPhone 5 is still 3.5", hello HTC.

I'd be willing to bet that Apple would test the new phone in the old phone's skin to avoid a debacle like they had with Gizmodo and the iPhone 4.

You have no understanding of how integrated the "case" is to the internals. Every cutout, brace, screw hole etc, in the case/frame/screen/back is intricately designed to fit the internals.

So, after 15 months of design time it would be sad if the iPhone 5 looks identical (with same screen size) as the 4. Sure, it will be a better phone internally, but it will show that Apple is operating in a vacuum.

 

[scoobydoo99]

I personally love the current iPhone 4 design. Hope they keep it for another year.

Agreed. I just hope they don't go back to the poor ergonomics of the 3G/3GS curved back design. The iphone 4 is perfect size and easy to hold with nice flat edges!

 

[Carlanga]

Arn, you have to consider the possibility that since the internals of the iPhone 5 CAN fit on an iPhone 4S that is what the data logs showed; they could have been testing the internals of the 5 inside the 4S casing to remain more inconspicuous at this stage.

 

[Navdakilla]

Was hoping for a new form factor for the iPhone 5.

Exactly, me too

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(I want to upgrade my 4, but won't if it's just a spec bump)

 

[aeaglex07]

at this point the next iPhone really needs a bigger screen to compete with every other phone out there. those bigger screens have lower resolutions than the iPhone but they are still gorgeous.

 

[manu chao]

You're talking about that last 10%, you know the one, the one that costs 90% to implement. I'm talking about the first 90%, you know, the one that costs 10% to implement.

But the point is that Apple tends to care much more about these last 10% than others. It is not that Android phones with all their different resolutions would large have broken UIs, they just don't look and feel as nicely.

 

[KnightWRX]

You mean back in the real world where Android devices and apps just never looked quite as good and polished as iOS (and WebOS) devices?

Please keep the blind Android hatred out of this. I've seen horrible UIs on both platforms and wonderful UIs on both too. Yes, including Android apps running on multiple different devices.

Or back in the real world where Windows (with its UI scaling) just never looked as polished as OS X?

The same OS X that provides UI scaling mechanisms and can scale UIs to many different resolutions or sizes on account that no 2 monitors are alike and users resize Windows all the time ?

These decades you refer to never had to deal with touch targets (which simply cannot be scaled that much) and they never had to deal with such small screens where a UI really benefitted from being optimised for exactly a screen size and resolution.

Yes, there never were POS touch devices out in the wild. Ever. The touch screen was invented in 2007.

Look, I'm not gonna convince you and you're not changing my mind on this "issue".

NO ONE ON THIS FORUM CAN ATTACK ANOTHER MEMBER... even if it is calling them a LIAR... which in some cases is pretty harsh.

Actually, you can very much call another member a liar. You just can't do it directly. But nothing stops you from showing his lie for what it is by providing a counter point backed by facts which are based on evidence.

 

[manu chao]

Please keep the blind Android hatred out of this. I've seen horrible UIs on both platforms and wonderful UIs on both too.

Saying that Android just does not look as polished as iOS (which a lot of reviewers in the mainstream media also agree on), constitutes 'blind hatred'?
Isn't this rather an attempt at discrediting an opinion by labelling it as highly irrational?

 

[janderson0719]

The touch screen was invented in 2007.

Really?

 

[Ksizzle9]

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I don't think the iPhone needs a huge redesign. I promise u if all they did was slap iOS 5 on a iPhone 4, and call it the 5, a ******** of people would still buy it because after all, 5 is bigger than 4. I hope it's only slight cosmetic changes, aside from the obvious camera, processor upgrades. The iPhone 4 is still the best looking phone out there! By a longshot, PERIOD.

 

[KnightWRX]

Saying that Android just does not look as polished as iOS (which a lot of reviewers in the mainstream media also agree on), constitutes 'blind hatred'?
Isn't this rather an attempt at discrediting an opinion by labelling it as highly irrational?

"Polish" and opinions on UIs are subjective. I thought we were having an objective discussion. Any attempt to paint an opinion as a fact to me is blind hatred and has no place in an objective debate.

 

[acslater017]

Yes, please! iPhone 4's design is sublime. If 5 just fixes everything that was questionable about it and revs the insides to today's specs, then sign me up!

I've had an iPhone 4 for a year, and it still holds up great. Sometimes I do enjoy looking at the amazing details or fiddling with the glass front/back in my hands.

Having said that, I think the tapered design would be great. Currently the iPhone 4's edges can be a bit sharp. If you hold it tight or play games for a long time it can slowly press into your fingers.

An iPad 2-like design, with flat back but smooth tapered edges, would be be the best of both worlds. It would still lay flat and not rock back and forth like the 3G/S. Yet it would still be smooth in the hand. Bring on the taper! (not tapir)

 

[nylonsteel]

re original article
odds are upcommer ip5 will look more like the ip4
sorry - no curved ip5

 

[adztaylor]

People only want a redesign for the iPhone 5 so they can differentiate themselves from previous users and show off. "look at me I have the latest model"

 

[janderson0719]

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I promise u if all they did was slap iOS 5 on a iPhone 4, and call it the 5, a ******** of people would still buy it because after all, 5 is bigger than 4.

I lost some faith in society in particular areas, but I don't think most people are that ignorant.

IMO, you don't come out with a iOS 5 and introduce a new iPhone the same as 4 or 4S.

It just doesn't work.

 

[GD0X]

I bought a white cover from some seller on amazon... It's the same one.

 

[AnthonyHarris]

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The touch screen was invented in 2007.

Really?

It might not have been invented in 2007... But who used advances in technology and software to make it work flawlessly... Apple!

The compitition have been playing catch up ever since. Fact.

 

[AppleMactablet]

This is how it will go done:

This is the iPhone4 (new 2011 model) with same 3.5inch screen 5mp camera and it does carry the A5 processor but under clocked and it's universal
Will only come in 8GB and be marketed as the cloud phone at 99bucks

The iPhone 5 will also be universal sport a 4in screen 8mp camera and a true clocked A5 processor but both phones will have the similar design of the original iPhone 4
It will be available in 32GB or 64GB at199/299

This info is based on the parts and info we have

 

[janderson0719]

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It might not have been invented in 2007... But who used advances in technology and software to make it work flawlessly... Apple!

The compitition have been playing catch up ever since. Fact.

I thought the government gets there hands on everything first.

 

[aeaglex07]

This is how it will go done:

This is the iPhone4 (new 2011 model) with same 3.5inch screen 5mp camera and it does carry the A5 processor but under clocked and it's universal
Will only come in 8GB and be marketed as the cloud phone at 99bucks

The iPhone 5 will also be universal sport a 4in screen 8mp camera and a true clocked A5 processor but both phones will have the similar design of the original iPhone 4
It will be available in 32GB or 64GB at199/299

This info is based on the parts and info we have

i hope you're right LOL