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iPhone Nano - For Real?
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Have you guys looked at the picture in the link?
from the looks of it, a rotary dialer doesn't mean that you will be dragging across the click wheel to press one number, but rather clicking in that location for that number. They could do it in such a way that press down on a part of the click wheel will pop up a little balloon on the screen showing you what number you are about to press,depending upon your location on the wheel. If you aren't on the correct number, you could then drag around until you hit the correct number, by releasing the wheel you will initiate the entering-in of that last number. This would be easer through time, allowing minimal scrolling and more accurate recognition. In the end, it may be a way to cheapen the iPhone nano, allowing everyone to have one.
I like the idea, but don't know if they should keep the numbers in clockwise rotation like in the picture or do it counter-clockwise like in normal rotary phones.
I think this rotary dialling is going to be damn cool. Look at it this way;
Using the circle dial, you are able to press numbers on the dial (with backlit) and if you make a mistake just "scroll" in counter clockwise to delete the previous number, and when you finish pressing all numbers to make a call, just drag your finger clockwise like a rotary dialling to make the call.
The multi touch dial will enable you to access several features, shortcuts so on, making it a basic yet effective phone and ipod.
I don't think this kind of phone would have texting capacity, I would be very surprised if it does, unless the small screen that shows the dial would be a multitouch screen like the iPhone and changes to keypad of an ordinary mobile/cell phone when you want to use texting.
As the second previous post shows several images of the iphone nano patents, I hope Apple is not going down that path, but what I suggested above.
What if ALL ipods in future will have phone capabilities?
Just as all the phone manufacturers seem to have been adding MP3 capabilities, Apple could do the opposite, and differentiate models by the depth of facilities.
Just a thought.
An iPhone without the wi-fi and touch screen and high prices, but more expensive than an iPod nano? I'm guessing 299$.
If, for that price, it comes without a carrier, I consider the iPhone nano mine
If it doesn't have texting, consider it dead in Europe. Texting with a clickwheel is a long and tedious process, but I think it can be pulled off. Especially with multi-touch.
If, for that price, it comes without a carrier, I consider the iPhone nano mine
If it doesn't have texting, consider it dead in Europe. Texting with a clickwheel is a long and tedious process, but I think it can be pulled off. Especially with multi-touch.
....The second model may indeed fit a "Nano" moniker, as it is said to hold a smaller form factor and simply marry iPod functionality with basic cellular functionality.
That's exactly what I am dreaming for... nothing more nothing less
Dal
That's exactly what I am dreaming for... nothing more nothing less
DalI think an iPhone Nano would defeat the purpose of an iPhone...
3G iPhones in Europe are more important than a stupid iPhone Nano.
3G iPhones in Europe are more important than a stupid iPhone Nano.
it would be stupid to enter the mobile phone market with only one phone! but what confuses me with this story is that...why not make a 2.5" iPhone with the same spec and functionality? an ipod click-wheel feels a bit half-hearted - like an ipod shuffle.
I don't believe for one second that we'll ever see an iPhone nano w/ clickwheel. The sole purpose of Apple's patent application was to fool competitors, imho.
I suppose the nano phone will be a multi-touch device:
- iPod nano form factor
- widescreen display with multi-touch
- *no* on-screen keyboard, just an on-screen numpad with T9 or something like that (due to screen real estate)
- no Wi-Fi
- low-resolution camera
- basic phone functionality
- music and video playback functionality
- photo viewing
- text messaging
- visual voicemail
- contacts / address book
- *no* mail
- *no* internet
- *no* widgets
- 2 and 4 GB models (299 and 399$)
- 5 different colors (like the iPod nano)
I suppose the nano phone will be a multi-touch device:
- iPod nano form factor
- widescreen display with multi-touch
- *no* on-screen keyboard, just an on-screen numpad with T9 or something like that (due to screen real estate)
- no Wi-Fi
- low-resolution camera
- basic phone functionality
- music and video playback functionality
- photo viewing
- text messaging
- visual voicemail
- contacts / address book
- *no* mail
- *no* internet
- *no* widgets
- 2 and 4 GB models (299 and 399$)
- 5 different colors (like the iPod nano)
Sounds dumb. The iPhone will hold up against smartphones mostly because of multitouch.
What will a phone without multitouch and keyboard accomplish? /compete against?
What will a phone without multitouch and keyboard accomplish? /compete against?
I think an iPhone Nano would defeat the purpose of an iPhone...
3G iPhones in Europe are more important than a stupid iPhone Nano.
(1) I'm not sure how an iPhone nano defeats the purpose. I think phone + iPod would be appealing to many, assuming a lower price point. While other phones may have MP3 players, none of them are iPods. This is important both for reasons of functionality and ease of use. It is also important for the "coolness" factor, something that matters quite a bit to many. Other features could also add to perceived value (i.e. the ability to easily sync contacts, calendars, and photos).
(2) I don't see why the existance of this rumored device would have any impact whatsoever on the release of an iPhone outside of the US.
(3) If the rumored revenue sharing with AT&T is true, then releasing an iPhone "lite" in time for the holidays would be a cash cow for both Apple and AT&T.
I've been nay saying the possibility of a 2nd iPhone on the boards with every rumor report.
This is still by far a confirmation but JP Morgan might want to rethink their decision to fire that Analyst soon
There are just too many unassociated sources pointing to the same rumor at this point .... IMO iPhone 2 is coming soon....
Sources: Apple set to grow iPhone family pre-holidays
I'd have said that JP Morgan were right to fire that analyst, since his "analysis" was obviously not pure conjecture. Any analyst could guess from the way that Apple tends to stratify their product lines that a cheaper phone offering was on the cards. The fact that it's coming so soon is what is surprising and the fact that he was acting on inside info in guessing how soon it was coming, meant that his "analysis" was really more of a leak and that's probably why they fired him.
The good news is that it seems Apple has not only thrown so many resources behind the iphone that they've put off updating software and hardware ever since the day this thing was announced (the 6-month hiatus in new macs that began just before macworld, leopard, ilife etc), but, that a lot of those delays seem to have been almost on purpose so that new macs/software released in late 2007 can bask in the iphone halo effect. Expect to hear a lot more of the new imacs and the across-the-line-octo-core mac pro than you otherwise would have.
I would expect also that the halo effect of the iphone will be far greater than that of the ipod, purely based on the press coverage so far, and given the narrow market at which the iphone is targeted simply by virtue of its expense, I would expect that a more affordable mass market phone release between now and Xmas will extend that halo effect much further in time for some of those "exciting new products" we heard about at macworld (of which the iphone nano is surely one, but also the rumoured ultra-portable and perhaps a replacement for the mac mini).
Its not too late to buy stock...
Agreed. This has to be an elaborate joke/hoax. No way Apple releases something on the iPhone moniker that does not use multitouch as the primary interface mechanism. Talk about customer confusion!
The iPhone IS the iPhone because of multtouch. Apple wouldn't screw around with that.
Well, it might be if it were actually news, as opposed to an unverifiable rumor.
Imo this makes a lot of sense actually.
I for one won't buy an iPhone because it's overkill for my needs, I'm not looking for E-Mail and Web Browsing on my cell phone, however, I would love to replace my 1st Gen 2GB iPod Nano for a Nano/iPhone Combo, especially if it stays within the Nano price range.
This is perfect for people who, just like me, don't actually need a smart phone, but want the convenience of the best cell phone UI and integration with Adress Book, iCal and etc.
I think that the iPhone Nano will have multitouch, don't ask me why, that's up to Apple's design crew to figure out, just don't make me type text messages on a click-wheel FFS
I for one won't buy an iPhone because it's overkill for my needs, I'm not looking for E-Mail and Web Browsing on my cell phone, however, I would love to replace my 1st Gen 2GB iPod Nano for a Nano/iPhone Combo, especially if it stays within the Nano price range.
This is perfect for people who, just like me, don't actually need a smart phone, but want the convenience of the best cell phone UI and integration with Adress Book, iCal and etc.
I think that the iPhone Nano will have multitouch, don't ask me why, that's up to Apple's design crew to figure out, just don't make me type text messages on a click-wheel FFS
I have big doubts that this will be the iteration of input interface for this new iPhone. It makes it difficult to input text. Even if the numbers are also numbers. ie. pressing the number 2, 2 times = letter b.
Even the cheapest of cheapest cellphones have the letters that correspond to each number written above each number.
A phone without text capabilities? Didn't that end with the introduction of the LCD screen on cell phones?
.... I don't know, I mean as far as I know, every cell phone in the world can do text, right? Or at least 98% of them? Correct me if I'm wrong, as I've done no research whatsoever, but why then would Apple leave out a major feature like that? Almost everyone texts.
I mean, if this is to be the "iPhone for everyone", shouldn't it stand to reason that it MUST include text capabilities? Perhaps not necessarily, but why leave out such a feature? Just so that it has a scroll wheel? I doubt it.
And... every incarnation of the dialing scroll-wheel, no matter how interesting, I think would be impractical in the end. I just don't see that happening, personally. Nor texting with a scroll wheel. I think it would just be cumbersome.
If they release the "iPhone nano" without text, that would be like having the Mac Mini and the Mac Pro without an iMac to fill the gap. Are they going to make a third iPhone?
This couldn't be it... if anything, my opinion is that this is some crazy mixup between an iPod (nano or otherwise) rumor and the international iPhone rumor. Probably. I'm pretty sure....
The iPhone shuffle idea would be pretty funny though, haha. Who will I call next?? Not even the phone knows for sure.
.... I don't know, I mean as far as I know, every cell phone in the world can do text, right? Or at least 98% of them? Correct me if I'm wrong, as I've done no research whatsoever, but why then would Apple leave out a major feature like that? Almost everyone texts.
I mean, if this is to be the "iPhone for everyone", shouldn't it stand to reason that it MUST include text capabilities? Perhaps not necessarily, but why leave out such a feature? Just so that it has a scroll wheel? I doubt it.
And... every incarnation of the dialing scroll-wheel, no matter how interesting, I think would be impractical in the end. I just don't see that happening, personally. Nor texting with a scroll wheel. I think it would just be cumbersome.
If they release the "iPhone nano" without text, that would be like having the Mac Mini and the Mac Pro without an iMac to fill the gap. Are they going to make a third iPhone?
This couldn't be it... if anything, my opinion is that this is some crazy mixup between an iPod (nano or otherwise) rumor and the international iPhone rumor. Probably. I'm pretty sure....
The iPhone shuffle idea would be pretty funny though, haha. Who will I call next?? Not even the phone knows for sure.
Right. With a good predictive algorithym. My aging Moto is quite good that way. Also, voice dialing would be a must.
um....I already have one of these....it's called a Moto SLVR and it is free with a contract agreement. No way that they are going to put out another iphone, but this time without the touchscreen. There would be no point.
FCC Approval
I have not read this entire thread, but any new phone would require FCC approval. We would therefore know about this phone six months ahead of its release just like in the case of the iPhone.
I have not read this entire thread, but any new phone would require FCC approval. We would therefore know about this phone six months ahead of its release just like in the case of the iPhone.
Interesting, since it is. It seems rather foolish to go on about how the iPhone is "crippled" or whatever because it doesn't have your pet feature. This is like complaining that a Honda Civic isn't a "full-fledged" car because it can't tow a trailer for your horses. Nobody cares!