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What about Text messaging for pete's sack! ok enough of trackpads, what about text???

I liked the idea of a sliding dial pad or maybe qwerty kb. but oh well, if apple actually do this? I want to see.


wake me when any of this sh*t is available in my country.....

Yup! c ya in 2012!
 
Interesting, since it is. It seems rather foolish to go on about how the iPhone is "crippled" or whatever because it doesn't have your pet feature. This is like complaining that a Honda Civic isn't a "full-fledged" car because it can't tow a trailer for your horses. Nobody cares!

Yes, such pet features as copy/paste, voice dialing and instant messanger.

The fact is that version1 of the iPhone is three years ahead of the curve in design, and two years+ behind in features. Mind you, the first generation of the iPod was quite a bit behind the curve in terms of mp3 players, but that didn't seem to stop it. iPod's had less storage capacity than the other hard drive units at the time, and still can't play all the file formats that were available to the original Creative Nomad. What it was, however, was 1/5th the size, and user friendly.

Within a year or so, Apple will have an iphone out which will have all the features that this one should have had. I imagine stuff like instant messanger is waiting for 3G, and they will implement video capture when their storage capacity goes up. Apple will continute to add features to the iphone as soon as they are able to miniturize them and keep their power consumption to acceptable levels.

On topic, the iPhone 'nano' will happen, but probably not right away. Belive it or not, there are people who don't want the internet on their phone. When Apple comes out with Revision 2 of the iPhone (Hopefully with 3G and 2x the storage capacity), they will probably also split the line with a smaller phone that JUST does phone features + plays music, with a few typical apple extras. The problem with this design from the start is that it has little advantage over standard phones like the media Razrs out there. That is why Apple needs to build its flagship line up before it comes out with it's stripped down version. Any 'Nano' phone will really not be a huge advantage over any other random cellphone featurewise, so they need it to be cooler than other cellphones.

PS. No way the phone will ONLY have the clickwheel. People would hate that. I could see a phone that opened up for a full keypad for dialing and texting, wtih the clickwheel as an option if you don't want to open it, but apple would never rely on JUST a clickwheel for the input on a device as complex as a phone.
 
Gullible rumor mongers

An iPhone with a rotary dialer and no touch screen? I have one word for those who give support to that rumor: gullible. Why not promote rumors that have at least a hint of potential validity.

An iPhone Nano rotary dialer is not only a ridiculous concept, but it is patently inconsistent with Apple's stated business objectives regarding the iPhone.
 
An iPhone with a rotary dialer and no touch screen?... ...Why not promote rumors that have at least a hint of potential validity.

An iPhone Nano rotary dialer is not only a ridiculous concept,...
I don't think the concept is that ridiculous actually.

If you think about the click-wheel on the iPod nano it would work well for phone navigation, at least as well as a standard keypad for actual telephone functionality.

Do I think it'll happen though? No. Shame though as an iPod nano sized iPhone would be more appealing to me than the larger iPhone which doesn't offer me the benefits I'd want from a large phone.
 
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I have big doubts that this will be the iteration of input interface for this new iPhone. It makes it difficult to input text. Even if the numbers are also numbers. ie. pressing the number 2, 2 times = letter b.

Even the cheapest of cheapest cellphones have the letters that correspond to each number written above each number.

EXACTLY. OMFG people let the rotary dial go. It will NEVER happen.
 
An iPhone with a rotary dialer and no touch screen? I have one word for those who give support to that rumor: gullible. Why not promote rumors that have at least a hint of potential validity.

Who knows, stranger things have happended before. A $500 Mac? Ludicrous. A flash-memory-based iPod without a screen? Will never happen! Macs with Intel chips? Yeah, rrrright!
 
Who knows, stranger things have happended before. A $500 Mac? Ludicrous. A flash-memory-based iPod without a screen? Will never happen! Macs with Intel chips? Yeah, rrrright!

True, but those are all steps forward as a result of progress. Going back to rotary dialing is two steps backwards.

Now re-inventing a dialing scheme that utilizes the current scroll wheel is fine. But the actual physical motion of rotating to dial will NEVER happen.
 
Anybody else think (hope) that might mean a CMDA model for Canada??

I'm thinking an iPhone Nano would be a great idea for any non-US markets (ie Canada) where the networks are different.

If Apple contacted the CDMA carriers in the USA, then the probably had at least one or two models working with that. So the technology / model probably already exist. That does not mean they will market it however.

Also I do not believe the iPhone nano rummor, if you see CDMA, it is likely another flavor of the same iPhone.
 
i'd buy this if its touchscreen keyboard accepts stylus input device, otherwise i don't see how you can type on such a small screen with your finger.:eek:

Those icons are the same size as the ones on the iPhone I think texting in landscape would be easy...
 
What if ALL ipods in future will have phone capabilities?

Just as all the phone manufacturers seem to have been adding MP3 capabilities, Apple could do the opposite, and differentiate models by the depth of facilities.

Just a thought.

I would love an iPod that just plays music......but holds 120GB. My phone is a separate device..
 
ahhhh

I also hear that Apple is going to make a Shuffle version of the iPhone too.

It's really cool. When you feel like making a call, it shuffles through all of your contacts and calls someone.

My god how many fricken times do I have to hear this lame ass nonsense?!?
The first time is was slightly funny, now you just sound stupid. stop it. seriously.
 
iPhone Nano likely to come

The reason I say this is because when you take away all of the features of the iPhone, and just make it a basic phone then it isn't an iPhone.

I don't think there is necessarily one fixed conceptual feature set of what makes an Iphone. I believe they will be able to easily sell an "iPhone Nano" of sorts that includes the basic music player functionality but that lacks email/internet access and targets the teen-college market. What will make it worthy of the 'iPhone' moniker will be the same as what makes any Apple product an Apple product.
It will be a marvel of hardware engineering and industrial design, outdone only by it's intelligent software that will give rise to an incredible user experience....

One point that has been made here a few times, that the iPhone is somewhat of a niche product is absolutely correct. Even though It will probably influence and increase the average price a buyer will pay for a cell phone (especially in America), Its useful to remember that that metric is still MUCH LOWER in the United States than in Europe and even more so in Asia. I read the actual statistic a while back, but I believe the average price point (retail) for a phone in the USA was under $100. (something on the order of 150 million cell phones)

So you can see truly how large a market Apple would miss if they didn't have a lower priced unit to compete with the RAZRs, Chocolates, Sony music phones, etc etc.....

Another thing to remember is that AT&T is ripping everyone off by tying them into the contract WITHOUT SUBSIDIZING THE iPHONE. Eventually, they'll have to give in and that'll bring the price of the iPhone down to 349.99 or So and open up the device ( and the potential iPhone nano) to MANY more people in the US market!
 
I'd love to see a CDMA and GSM version of an iPhone so everybody who wants one can get one, but I assume they will have to give into AT&T and give them another crazy 5 year exclusive contract on any new model that comes out.

There are millions of customers that live in areas with much better CDMA reception, however AT&T is not going to let anyone else have the iPhone.
 
An iPhone with a rotary dialer and no touch screen? I have one word for those who give support to that rumor: gullible. Why not promote rumors that have at least a hint of potential validity.

An iPhone Nano rotary dialer is not only a ridiculous concept, but it is patently inconsistent with Apple's stated business objectives regarding the iPhone.

1. If the "new nano" (which has the same NAND capacity as the iPhone) happens to have any phone capacity whatsoever, it could choose numbers via the click wheel at finger width resolution, or,

2. Could have a full screen capability, with touch screen and fulll video capacity and also virtual click wheel and micro-keyboard for IM. In short, everything, everywhere, all the time, at the lowest cost possible ($300+).

Apple stock might possibly be a buy. At $205.

Rocketman
 
Physical rotary dial isn't coming.

They could pull off a clickwheel. Bang & Olufsen did something similar with physical buttons in a circular arrangement, and that old Nokia phone with the circular keypad (forget what it's called). Never used either, though, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't want to switch to a whole new control scheme/layout. Even if it was cheap, if Apple forced me to use a clickwheel to text (jebus), I'd stick with Sony Ericsson.

I know Apple is all about innovation and blah blah blah, but sometimes you just need to create something simple that will appeal to the masses through other means (function, aesthetic, price, etc.). They did it with the iPod mini, and the Mac mini, why not the iPhone nano?
 
The current iPhone is not crippled.
So how do you pair BlueTooth with address book? Or include more than one URL in an email without having to type every one in, copy & paste?

OK omitting copy & paste functionality isn't crippling it, it's just missing the feature that most other 'real' smartphones have, but the BlueTooth functions have been crippled.
 
people

you do realise that the 'rotary' controls would be a step backwards, not forwards?

they are not used anymore for a reason...and i will bet anything you like that apple are not going to go retro for the sake of (dubious) looks at the cost of functionality

this is apple we're talking about


LET THE ROTARY iPHONE NANO GO!
 
The click wheel works as a keyboard input device, if you make an on-screen letter wheel and manipulate it by spinning the click wheel with your finger then pushing the center button to input a letter. It's different but it works just fine once you get used to it.

That's what I'd do if I was Apple...

Can you imagine how slow SMS messaging would be on a phone with a click-wheel letter input device? The market for a phone like this includes most people who use text messaging frequently, and in the world of impatience that we live in, people aren't going to want to slowly input one letter at a time using a dial.

I don't see the click-wheel input design being very successful on a phone device because if you have ever used a rotary phone, then used a touch-tone phone, you'll realize how much faster input is on the latter.

I personally think this would be a very bad decision for Apple, and I don't see the phone selling very many units once people realized that text messaging will be so painstakingly slow....
 
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