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iPhone Nano Rumors Revived in Otherwise Quiet Lead-in to Macworld
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Maybe they are not in the cell phone market but in the ultra mobile computing market. Apple has a lot less laptop models than Lenovo, HP or Dell, but it is still successful. (But I agree, it has about four notebook models, AIR, 13"MB, 15"MBP and 17"MBP.)
Looking into the future, yes. But funnily, all so-called iPhone competitors are noticeably thicker.
The only component that would get significantly cheaper would be the screen. The case would hardly be cheaper and even tinier internals would be more expensive. Again, the screen price decrease might be enough and technological advances could keep the internals at the same price while being smaller.
There is hardly an app that a Mac Pro can run but an iMac not apart from those requiring certain interfaces (PCI-cards).
It very much does, standalone GPS devices require noticeably longer to receive the accurate position since they have to receive the current position of the satellites they have contact with via a very slow GPS connection (in the order of 5000 bauds) and require multiple GB of storage space for maps on the devices.
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And the Touch even has two memory chips instead of two (but possibly a smaller battery due to not having to support a cell phone radio).
i actualy think this is a good idea, why?
cause you also have a macbook and a macbook pro, an imac and a macpro
you see? when i read this thread, i finaly know what i what, this thing, because i think the iphone is just a little to big, and i also dont need al the special stuff thats in the iphone now, i just want to call, message, take some pictures, view some pictures. i dont need gps apps, games and stuff. so this would be perfect!
cause you also have a macbook and a macbook pro, an imac and a macpro
you see? when i read this thread, i finaly know what i what, this thing, because i think the iphone is just a little to big, and i also dont need al the special stuff thats in the iphone now, i just want to call, message, take some pictures, view some pictures. i dont need gps apps, games and stuff. so this would be perfect!
Step back for a second...
Here's a couple of the bigger reasons Apple built the iphone:
a, all existing mobiles were crap and they knew they could do better.
b, the ipod was rapidly reaching saturation and with phones increasingly containing improving media players the days of the standalone music player were clearly numbered. To grow as a company they needed to turn the ipod into a phone.
In the long term I don't think apple sees the iphone staying as a niche product i.e. a smartphone, rather they want to do to mobile phones what the ipod did to the walkman and make it THE consumer product to own.
But how many 12 year old ipod owners can afford to replace their mobile with an iphone? Not many. So apple needs to make iphones which are cheaper and smaller, and expand the range.
And as for the complaint about screen resolution, it's going to change sooner or later forcing apps to be more flexable, might as well make it sooner.
Doesn't mean I think it will happen in January, but if Apple has any sense it'll happen before Christmas '09.
Here's a couple of the bigger reasons Apple built the iphone:
a, all existing mobiles were crap and they knew they could do better.
b, the ipod was rapidly reaching saturation and with phones increasingly containing improving media players the days of the standalone music player were clearly numbered. To grow as a company they needed to turn the ipod into a phone.
In the long term I don't think apple sees the iphone staying as a niche product i.e. a smartphone, rather they want to do to mobile phones what the ipod did to the walkman and make it THE consumer product to own.
But how many 12 year old ipod owners can afford to replace their mobile with an iphone? Not many. So apple needs to make iphones which are cheaper and smaller, and expand the range.
And as for the complaint about screen resolution, it's going to change sooner or later forcing apps to be more flexable, might as well make it sooner.
Doesn't mean I think it will happen in January, but if Apple has any sense it'll happen before Christmas '09.
It is not an impossibility which is my point.
But again it doesn't and you have as much as said so above!!!!! I see this all the time when discussing GPS, the contradiction is amazing. GPS works fine without a network connection and always has. Now you may have problems with certain apps that "USE" GPS but that is not the same thing as saying GPS doesn't work, it does and this isn't something that can be argued about.
Dave
I wish this was the case but the restrictions they have on software really puts iPhone into the smart phone category. The reality is that I use my iPhone as an ultra mobile computing platform more than I do a cell phone but as such it is far more restricted than I'd like.
Most of those competitors have more in the way of keyboards which directly impact thickness. Even so iPod Touch is thinner again, thinner isn't a problem as long as more integrated electronics keep coming and antenna design continues to advance.
Well I have to disagree, higher integration devices are cheaper. Further the tighter integration can lead to smaller PC boards, the area of the PC boards directly affect the cost of the device.
The point remains that one can do things the other can't. Likewise it really doesn't matter if one phone has capabilities another doesn't. It is all about choice.
But again it doesn't and you have as much as said so above!!!!! I see this all the time when discussing GPS, the contradiction is amazing. GPS works fine without a network connection and always has. Now you may have problems with certain apps that "USE" GPS but that is not the same thing as saying GPS doesn't work, it does and this isn't something that can be argued about.
Dave
Do what? Subsidize an Ipod Nano? They'd do it for the same reason they subsidize any phone. To get people onto their networks and get them into 2 year service contracts.
$99 or $150? Now we're pretty close on the pricepoints now that you've dropped the $1200 iMac for $200 thang.
Apple makes less money per unit on a Mac Mini than on a Mac Pro. Not unprecedented there.
IT's about the margins. I'm sure the margins would be in the ballpark they like to do business in.I don't have time to read all 6 pages, or whatever this is at now, but, has anyone suspected at all that this could be the rumored $99 iPhone that Wal-Mart was supposed to sell? I don't think so at all, as i think both of these rumors are total bull, but, you could (strong emphasis on the word could) be combined together to make a semi-believable rumor. That would also explain the 4 GB size rumor. Don't think it is realistic, but thought it would be worth mentioning.
And what exactly would be 'Pro' about it?
If they expand the product line, they will make iPhone nano. Just like with the iPod. I think this story is believable.
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I wanna see "up"grades, not "down"grades.
Or why not both? A cheaper smaller model and then a revamped super model.
There are plenty of phones that can do those things perfectly well. Why should apple bother to make a phone that can only do those things.
That's like saying Ferrari should start making economy cars, because some people don't need to drive really fast, they just need to get to work.
If a 12 year old has an ipod and a mobile phone (with $20 per month bill minimum), then there parents can probably afford to buy them whatever they want. Do 12 year olds have cell phones these days?
Unfortunately yes. However (and this is coming from a 20 year old, who didnt get his first cell phone or ipod till the end of his senior year, not some older person) many kids are spoiled brats whose parents buy them anything.
Gawd, the iPod Nano; the iPhone Nano; the MBA Nano; the Mini Nano; the Mac Pro Nano etc. When will it stop???
Gawd, the iPod Nano; the iPhone Nano; the MBA Nano; the Mini Nano; the Mac Pro Nano etc. When will it stop???
the Nano Nano??
I don't see what all the fuss is about. Why not extend the wonderful iPhone UI to a less high-end phone? It will broaden the iPhone's marketshare and rake in more consumers.
Quit comparing the iPhone to a Mac - it's in the same class as an iPod. And the iPod is marketed to the masses just as the iPhone is. There will be no iPhone pro, that's ridiculous. the iPhone IS pro. An iPhone nano makes sense. No GPS or 3G, smaller screen, cheaper. But most importantly - Cheaper cell phone plans because you don't need to pay $30 for the Data. A lot of people still don't have smartphones and this will bring the wonderful iPhone UI to a less-than-smartphone. If you don't want one then don't buy one.
And yes, it's unbelievable the number of 12 year olds that have cell phones now a days. It seems from 7th grade on up that it's weird not to have a cell phone.
Quit comparing the iPhone to a Mac - it's in the same class as an iPod. And the iPod is marketed to the masses just as the iPhone is. There will be no iPhone pro, that's ridiculous. the iPhone IS pro. An iPhone nano makes sense. No GPS or 3G, smaller screen, cheaper. But most importantly - Cheaper cell phone plans because you don't need to pay $30 for the Data. A lot of people still don't have smartphones and this will bring the wonderful iPhone UI to a less-than-smartphone. If you don't want one then don't buy one.
And yes, it's unbelievable the number of 12 year olds that have cell phones now a days. It seems from 7th grade on up that it's weird not to have a cell phone.
The COST of the iPhone that prevents people who want one from getting one is NOT the cost of the phone but the cost of the MONTHLY BILL!!!!!!!!!!
That is pretty much a blanket statement that I am willing to make because it is vastly true. For crying out loud the iPhone is cheaper than iPods and can do sooo much more. The only reason that smart phones are not inundating the planet yet is because of the cost of the bills with data plans. I could name 30 people right now that I personally know that are dying for an iPhone and could buy one for $199 in a heartbeat if only they could afford the expensive monthly bill that is attached to it!
Therefore, I'm not saying it is improbable or unwise for Apple to make an iPhone nano (slightly smaller but same screen resolution), BUT if they want mass adoption they need to be looking at what DATA FEATURES they would include on it and the bill that would accompany an iPhone Nano and NOT the cost of the device itself.
Enjoy!
P.S. If they do make an iPhone nano, they better finally freaking implement global landscape keyboard for crying out loud!
That is pretty much a blanket statement that I am willing to make because it is vastly true. For crying out loud the iPhone is cheaper than iPods and can do sooo much more. The only reason that smart phones are not inundating the planet yet is because of the cost of the bills with data plans. I could name 30 people right now that I personally know that are dying for an iPhone and could buy one for $199 in a heartbeat if only they could afford the expensive monthly bill that is attached to it!
Therefore, I'm not saying it is improbable or unwise for Apple to make an iPhone nano (slightly smaller but same screen resolution), BUT if they want mass adoption they need to be looking at what DATA FEATURES they would include on it and the bill that would accompany an iPhone Nano and NOT the cost of the device itself.
Enjoy!
P.S. If they do make an iPhone nano, they better finally freaking implement global landscape keyboard for crying out loud!
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With all the talk of the iphone wish list - how many unhappy people would there be if they came out with a 'better' iphone at McWorld 2 weeks after you jus tgot an 'old' iphone for Christmas???