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stolen from http://www.misterbg.org/AppleProductCycle/

I think this is a little off but extremely amusing. Let me state I would buy a mac over a windows pc any day, I have several of both 4 windows machines , 5 macs , 2 of them notebooks the macs are less troublesome. AND most importantly I have more confidence if I install an update that it won't be taking away or limiting functionality based on some obscue law. Much easier to backout changes on a mac since its more unix based, and no dlls or registry's to work with.

I think somehow the appletv and iphone are part of the same overall business model, and sometime soon will see some kind of integration.

What I'm hoping for, is that slingmedia does somekind of deal with apple . Appletv looks great on my htc 6800. And would dearly love to see that on my new iphone.

I think You must carefully read between the lines in the statements by apple. No sdk, means no 3rd party apps... Not quite true.. No third party apps without apple developing them.

There have been pleanty of companies that work in cooperation, No SDK doesn NOT mean there's no api, just means it may only be available to apple programmers and companies that work directly with apple and maybe smart hackers. (it was only a few weeks before the original xbox 1 sdk was leaked) sdk's are software class libraries, no software company in its right mind with more than 1 or 2 developers works without first developing a class library of functions.

Do you see an appletv sdk.
All this is speculation on my part, but again I think it depends what model apple chooses to follow.

1) the sony/microsoft model, try unsuccessfully to block any homegrown software (psp)

2) The tivo model , Ignore homebrew and hacks unless they involve stealing service (it took awhile for tivo to release an sdk for anything)

Based on what seems to be happening with appletv I think it might be 2.

again everything here is just speculation, but I'm really tired of the apple bashing. This is a new market for apple and I can't blame them for taking it somewhat slowloy.
 
Jeazzz....

They will get to it ... the device has been out 1 day now give it a rest with the 3rd Party apps. As of Vorg Orbis why can't you get with the program and encode your music in MP3 or AAC its been advertised that thats what the ipod uses for ages.... get with the program thats what the iPhone uses and its fine...

The iPhone does what it does and it does it well. I bought it for the ease of use... and it has excelled beyond my wildest dreams.

Rant over..... for now!
 
AGPS is not required and AGPS is much different then triangulation.

E911 is what is required, which can be satisfied using AGPS among many other things.

IN other words the iPhone can fully support E911 requirement but that doesn't imply that the phone knows anything about its actual location.

I understand that E911 can be satisfied in various ways. However, how do you think the phone can tell the 911 authorities where it is, but not the user of the phone. Does that use the magic protocol? Its information available and should be made available to the user of the phone (not just to warrant-less authorities).
 
2-4 Weeks becomes 1 week

Just received this from Apple Store...ships on July 6th.
 

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