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iPhone on Verizon Rumor Revived

I have no desire to see the iPhone on Verizon—especially since Verizon passed on Apple's terms. What makes you think they're going to suddenly open up to a relationship with Apple? (eg why use VCast when you have the iTunes store, etc.) I can also see them neutering the wifi connection, and offering their own branded gps, etc. Jobs even mentioned Apple is fully committed to GSM-based networks—"we're on the bandwagon" iirc at Macworld '07.

The only point for Verizon is having a choice of service, especially for those poor souls who don't get very good AT&T service. Phone service sucks everywhere and there are definitely places where AT&T doesn't work where Verizon does, and vice versa.

My service just fine—sans no 3g here yet—but everybody complaining about their AT&T service, don't you think for every word you spend time griping on a forum could be better spent shooting an e-mail off to an AT&T tech with a note on where the reception isn't very good in "(fill in the blank.")?
 
iPhone on Verizon may be the only way I ever purchase one.

Perhaps when everyone moves to LTE... I don't put much stock in the rumor right now. Creating a CDMA phone in a dying market? As much as I enjoy my CDMA phones' call quality, I just don't see this happening.
 
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SirOmega said:
Wouldn't Apple need CDMA engineers to enter markets like South Korea, which is CDMA only? There are non-GSM cell phone markets out there. That seems way more likely.
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My iPhone 3G worked just fine in South Korea, AT&T has a roaming GSM partner there.
 
I switched from Verizon to AT&T to get the iPhone 3G. And to be perfectly honest, as bad as my service is in this area (and we're a decent sized city and we do have 3G), if Verizon came out with the iPhone tomorrow, I'd have a hard time deciding... the only thing that would likely keep me on AT&T would be the insane contract termination fees...
 
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What I dont understand is why people keep saying "no way. Not a chance. Cant happen till 2010" says who? An unidentified source who seems to be in the know about Verizon Apple relations. I could lie about such things too. How many rumors have we seen about products from seemingly credible sources that havent come true? While Im not one of those people who totally believe this I certainly wont rule it out based on a rumor from some unidentified leak.
 
I had a Verizon v710 and Verizon intentionally crippled the bluetooth stack so that you couldn't use bluetooth except for headsets. Trouble was they advertised it as having "bluetooth" and they lied to customers about an update that would fix it which never came. Anything to keep people from returning it. There was a class-action suit about that model.

I'd go with any carrier other than Verizon first. I don't want another crippled phone and another class-action settlement.
 
But..But why???? It just doesn't make sense. I really DON'T want to switch to Verizon. :(

If this happens I hope they also maintain a deal with AT&T. It just seems strange.
 
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What I dont understand is why people keep saying "no way. Not a chance. Cant happen till 2010" says who? An unidentified source who seems to be in the know about Verizon Apple relations. I could lie about such things too. How many rumors have we seen about products from seemingly credible sources that havent come true? While Im not one of those people who totally believe this I certainly wont rule it out based on a rumor from some unidentified leak.
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Well Apple and AT&T do have an exclusive contract that would probably cost billions to get out of. You're reasoning is true, but I highly doubt Apple will want to pay out of the contract.
 
The ONLY reason I left Verizon was to get an iPhone. I had Verizon for 7 years and was more than happy with their service. The coverage is better and Verizon works in more remote places than AT&T (at least for me). So... IF the iPhone were actually released for Verizon I would likely switch back to them without too much thought.

Good point that someone had though about Verizon's branded apps, like Vcast, etc. I wouldn't want to do that at all, and I can't imagine Apple would ever agree to that. The Verizon Nav system was pretty good though - worked well AND gave you voice turn-by-turn directions :p (don't beat me, I actually don't even care about that since I have GPS in my car, but I know it's a sensitive subject around here)
 
I've been very happy with AT&T

No chance I'd go back to Verizon


But if people want it, they shouldn't Apple offer it?(once any deal with AT&T end or change)
 
SpinThis! said:
I have no desire to see the iPhone on Verizon—especially since Verizon passed on Apple's terms. What makes you think they're going to suddenly open up to a relationship with Apple? (eg why use VCast when you have the iTunes store, etc.) I can also see them neutering the wifi connection, and offering their own branded gps, etc. Jobs even mentioned Apple is fully committed to GSM-based networks—"we're on the bandwagon" iirc at Macworld '07.
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MCroft said:
I had a Verizon v710 and Verizon intentionally crippled the bluetooth stack so that you couldn't use bluetooth except for headsets. Trouble was they advertised it as having "bluetooth" and they lied to customers about an update that would fix it which never came. Anything to keep people from returning it. There was a class-action suit about that model.

I'd go with any carrier other than Verizon first. I don't want another crippled phone and another class-action settlement.
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Listen, I'm no fan of Verizon, but these perceptions are old. I doubt this is the last time I'll have to say this because people don't read before posting, but this year Verizon opened their network to "any device, any app".

That means Apple could make the iPhone however they want. No Vcast. No Verizon branding. No crippling of features. As dumbass as Verizon's CEO is, he at long last made the realization that he should be selling the network first, phones and downloads second.
 
SirOmega said:
Wouldn't Apple need CDMA engineers to enter markets like South Korea, which is CDMA only? There are non-GSM cell phone markets out there. That seems way more likely.
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South Korea is not CDMA-only. They use a version of HSPA, which uses encoding instead of time to seperate signals, which is the same underpinnings of CDMA, but it is still considered GSM 3G.

TEG
 
AT&T's service is garbage.

I have been using Verizon for 7 years now and I get signals where others don't.

I would get an iphone in a second if it came to Verizon.
 
Offering a Verizon iPhone is the quickest way for Apple to grow their share of the US phone market. It will happen sooner or later.

The argument that Apple won't release a Verizon iPhone because CDMA is soon to be obsolete is bogus. By that logic they should never have released the original iPhone since EDGE was superseded by 3G just 12 months later. Every single phone that Verizon sells today is CDMA. Every single one of their millions of customers is using a CDMA phone right now. The transition from CDMA to LTE will be phased in over many years and is Verizon's responsibility, not Apple's. In fact it's an opportunity to sell more phones in the long run.
 
Waiting for iPhone on Verizon

I am on Verizon using a very old (4-year old) phone. I am very happy with the service but will soon need a new phone. I would buy an iPhone the same day it becomes available on Verizon, but since it is not likely to happen in the near future, I would have to buy some other phone instead.
 
I would love to see the iPhone on verizon, my 2 year contract just expired and am debating whether to switch to at&t just for the iphone or stick with verizon and just get a regular phone, maybe the versa? :rolleyes:
 
mkrishnan said:
There are some worldwide opportunities for CDMA, particularly in Asia, but I have the sad suspicion that AT&T will continue to quash any dreams of iPhones on other US networks.
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Indeed. If there was a CDMA iPhone available now, then I'd probably own one.

ingenious said:
As much as I enjoy my CDMA phones' call quality, I just don't see this happening.
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I recently switched from GSM to CDMA and I've noticed significantly better call quality. I assumed that this was simply due to the CDMA provider having a better service (or that it's a better phone), but your post seems to imply that CDMA is inherently better. Is that true or am I just reading into it too much?
 
Tallest Skil said:
Of course they would.

The rumor is of them branching to Verizon.

Which they won't.
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That's just dumb thinking. Of course they are planning on bringing it to Verizon. Verizon was their first choice. It is the largest wireless carrier in the US. It has the best service according to Consumer Reports. Apple wants to make money, not stay loyal to one company.
 
This seems pretty simple to me. The iPhone brought AT&T a slew of new customers and AT&T payed big for the exclusive. The iPhone 3G also brought AT&T a slew of new customers, but this time they stopped the revenue sharing aspect of the deal. The next iPhone will almost certainly be an AT&T exclusive and will bring in new customers, but eventually they'll see diminishing returns, if they haven't already.

Eventually AT&T won't be getting enough new-subscriber iPhone customers to justify spending zillions on exclusivity. And/or Apple will see that they have more to gain by opening up to Verizon's market than they get out of the exclusivity deal.

In the early years, there has been a lot of low hanging fruit in the form of iPhone switchers, but surely they'll be largely picked out within another year or two. Apple's going to want the business of those who would like an iPhone but don't/can't switch for one. The iPhone on Verizon is really just a question of when. My guess is mid 2010 at the earliest.
 
I left Verizon after 6 years for the first iPhone, which I still have. I'm the only person among friends and family that is on ATT. They are all on Verizon.:( I have not had a bad experience with ATT. I've had a couple garbled calls over the years, but also had problems on Vz. I wouldn't go running back - I would see what they would do to the iPhone. Look at the Storm, pretty nice phone, but no Wifi because they want you dependent on their network.

But, I think if Vz got the iPhone, it would be good for everybody. Then talk about price wars - that's what I would like to see. The iPhone going to Vz would definitely change the playing field, especially since it's the #1 selling handset (not smartphone) in the U.S.

Just my .02
 
victry1 said:
I wouldn't go running back - I would see what they would do to the iPhone. Look at the Storm, pretty nice phone, but no Wifi because they want you dependent on their network.
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As I've said before in this thread, as of this year, Verizon has opened their network to "any device, any app". That means Apple could release the iPhone on their network however Apple wants to do it.
 
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