TaDa is very nice. I can't compete with 37signals when it comes to full-featured apps. But, OneTrip is really more of a super-lightweight widget. No registration, no typing (in most cases), a completely stripped down UI.
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iPhone-optimized web app (demo)
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neven, great job and congrats on thinking about this before it was announced. I remember reading your post when you first posted and thought it was a great way to develop iPhone apps, who would have thought that Apple thought so to (or perhaps like many have eluded to, apple read your post and stole the idea).
Anyway, keep up the great work.
Anyway, keep up the great work.
Check this out
Neven, try your "app" here, and you may get an idea of how it will look (if it works):
http://hortiz.no/iphone/
Neven, try your "app" here, and you may get an idea of how it will look (if it works):
http://hortiz.no/iphone/
Excellent! Thank you. I built a similar thing to use for development. The only immediately visible difference is that you, unsurprisingly, can't scroll long lists in your wrapper. Still, it gives a good idea of what this will look like.
I Think that you guys that think that iPhone-only websites are a joke think twice. iPhone-Only websites will be the best option for everyone, welcome to the iPhone era, and congrats to you and your app, man! it's cool!
I wanted to point out a little glitch that happened to me so you can fix it...
When you check off things on the list, but then go and add new items to the list, the checks stay where they are in the list while the other items are pushed down. This makes the checks not coincide with what was checked originally.
Hope I could help!
Awesome app by the way! I would use it
When you check off things on the list, but then go and add new items to the list, the checks stay where they are in the list while the other items are pushed down. This makes the checks not coincide with what was checked originally.
Hope I could help!
Awesome app by the way! I would use it
I don't believe Safari will close open tabs if you just exit the browser to go to the iPod or phone module. That would be irritating for more than just this app
However, if you close the tab manually, you'll lose your list, true. It would be near-trivial to store that on the server so you could restart your session, but this would be complicated for the user. You'd have to create an account, log in... that defeats the purpose of it being a really small, handy app. I'll think about it though. It remains to be seen if it'll be usable on iPhone at all.
Wouldn't cookies solve this?
Also this is a good example of why Apple released Safari on Windows. This works AND LOOKS identical on both Safaris, and likely will on the iPhone.
This is where things are headed. Add Google Gears and your there.
I wanted to point out a little glitch that happened to me so you can fix it...
When you check off things on the list, but then go and add new items to the list, the checks stay where they are in the list while the other items are pushed down. This makes the checks not coincide with what was checked originally.
Hope I could help!
Awesome app by the way! I would use it
One other small glitch. Don't know if it will happen on the phone but when the list is longer than the window and the scroll bar comes up the check boxes are partially covered.
Again, Awesome
This is a superb little app, and of course one that would make sense to run locally on the iPhone, rather than connected to a remote site.
I wonder if there will be an easy mechanism to load such apps on the phone to run locally?
However, I was under the (mis)impression that the iPhone does not support JavaScript. Am I wrong?
Ted
Doesn't look like the iPHone has a scroll bar that appears - just grey overlayed bars when you're moving the webpage around with your finger, so hopefully shouldn't affect the app?
There will (at least at launch) be no mechanism to load these apps directly to the iPhone, so far as Apple has indicated.
The iPhone does run JavaScript, it does not run Java. The two are very different things.
Nothing to really add, but nice app. I'd use it, and I'm sure many others would too.
One question (sorry if it is a noob one)... To use web apps, are they downloaded like widgets (ie contained within the browsers cache once you've loaded the page), or are you accessing the host each time you make a change (ie add milk, does it access the host, add bread, access again, etc).
If it is a one-time access type thing, it would be very useful, but if it is constantly accessing, it would be very expensive for the host to have the program available.
One question (sorry if it is a noob one)... To use web apps, are they downloaded like widgets (ie contained within the browsers cache once you've loaded the page), or are you accessing the host each time you make a change (ie add milk, does it access the host, add bread, access again, etc).
If it is a one-time access type thing, it would be very useful, but if it is constantly accessing, it would be very expensive for the host to have the program available.
That's quite nifty!
You left lamb off the meat list though...
Hopefully the iPhone will allow you to put URL shortcuts on your application list. There may even be a requirement for an "iphoneicon.png" file for the shortcut icon. Hopefully the iPhone caches the page content, including the Javascript, so unless the application is updated it should be very quick to run the application (hopefully this method would work offline too).
You left lamb off the meat list though...
Hopefully the iPhone will allow you to put URL shortcuts on your application list. There may even be a requirement for an "iphoneicon.png" file for the shortcut icon. Hopefully the iPhone caches the page content, including the Javascript, so unless the application is updated it should be very quick to run the application (hopefully this method would work offline too).
I didn't really look at his Javascript file, but for something like this it's entirely plausible to set and read the cookies through Javascript without accessing the server once the page has loaded.
I particularly love this idea because this means unlimited applications for a single iPhone with no significant consumption of the 4-8GB flash drive. And with the slew of web developers out there this should be absolutely cake. I've read a lot of jabs at Apple for having web-based applications instead of fill-up-phone programs, and in my opinion, I find this option much better. There's no worry of applications sucking up resources and so forth, and most importantly, Safari for Windows now opens this avenue up to PC-platform developers, since they now have a taste of Apple's browser without having to use an Apple system. I think it's brilliant, and neven, my hat goes off to you.
Nice job! Consider it bookmarked.
The first thing I thought of was if Safari on the iPhone would allow us to save web pages. If this is the case, would your app run as a saved webpage (ie could we use it as a stand-alone app, just like the others on the home screen)?
The first thing I thought of was if Safari on the iPhone would allow us to save web pages. If this is the case, would your app run as a saved webpage (ie could we use it as a stand-alone app, just like the others on the home screen)?
Great app neven, your foresight is amazing! It'll be really interesting to see how other web2.0 apps will be able to exploit the iPhone's internal services.
JavaScript menu for the iPhone (perhaps)
Nice little app! I would use this.
FWIW: I wrote a JavaScript menu based on the Finder's column view. It might lend itself well to iPhone apps:
http://www.stringify.com/columnav/
/end shameless plug
Nice little app! I would use this.
FWIW: I wrote a JavaScript menu based on the Finder's column view. It might lend itself well to iPhone apps:
http://www.stringify.com/columnav/
/end shameless plug
Here's a question for everyone. What role could mac.com accounts play in all of this? Those of us who subscribe have server space available. Could this be a way for us to "collect" apps without forcing additonal server burden on independent developers?
I have made some assumptions that I have no idea whether they are possible or not. Please enlighten me.
I have made some assumptions that I have no idea whether they are possible or not. Please enlighten me.
.Mac = Facebook Platform
I have a hunch .Mac will follow the example of the Facebook Platform, for 3rd party development of external web apps. You will see iPhone Platform on .Mac.
Seriously, I'm all for Centralized Applications and web apps does just that. I'd prefer this path over installed apps. I've got apps on my smartphone I seldom use and taking up lots of space. Centralized Applications will free up memory for more music and videos. My 2 cents.
I have a hunch .Mac will follow the example of the Facebook Platform, for 3rd party development of external web apps. You will see iPhone Platform on .Mac.
Seriously, I'm all for Centralized Applications and web apps does just that. I'd prefer this path over installed apps. I've got apps on my smartphone I seldom use and taking up lots of space. Centralized Applications will free up memory for more music and videos. My 2 cents.