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Actually...
  1. Standby button
  2. Slide to unlock
  3. Double-tap home
  4. Select contact

I suppose Paj would also like to include breathing, blinking and remaining conscious as some of the arduous steps necessary to use an iPhone.

FFS. Here we go. Another thread ruined by immature fanboys unable to carry out an intelligent discussion around the pros and cons of the iPhone.

Let's use your list then shall we.

iPhone
  1. Standby button (which switches the damn thing on!)
  2. Slide to unlock
  3. Double-tap home (configurable in options to take you straight to favorites)
  4. Select contact

BB
  1. Standby button
  2. Press and hold key

Just accept the fact that a call on the BB can be placed using fewer clicks than the iPhone. Nobody is denying that the iPhone can do many things better than the BB and other phones (I mention several of those things in my earlier post). But when it comes to number of required key presses, it loses to the BB.
 
FFS. Here we go. Another thread ruined by immature fanboys unable to carry out an intelligent discussion around the pros and cons of the iPhone.

Let's use your list then shall we.

iPhone
  1. Standby button (which switches the damn thing on!)
  2. Slide to unlock
  3. Double-tap home (configurable in options to take you straight to favorites)
  4. Select contact

BB
  1. Standby button
  2. Press and hold key

Just accept the fact that a call on the BB can be placed using fewer clicks than the iPhone. Nobody is denying that the iPhone can do many things better than the BB and other phones (I mention several of those things in my earlier post). But when it comes to number of required key presses, it loses to the BB.
Not sure why we're stuck on this tiny little thing?
 
Also I have found that if someone emails you a phone number, on the iphone you can't copy and paste the phone number to make a new contact, nor can you just press on the phone number from the email to call the number.

On a BB you can copy and paste to make a new contact and also press the menu button and dial the phone number that came from an email or text message to make the call.
 
Not sure why we're stuck on this tiny little thing?

It was originally brought up by the OP.

But, I think the Bold is far quicker and easier to manage in a few arenas, especially for rapidly dialing phone numbers, dialing from contacts, and adding contacts.

Then the fanboys all jumped in unable to accept the fact that maybe... just maybe, the iPhone is not the best device in every area. :rolleyes:

But I agree. For some, this may be a "tiny little thing".
 
...nor can you just press on the phone number from the email to call the number.
I think it depends on the format of the phone number. It seems to recognize US format numbers in my email (nnn-nnn-nnnn).
 
How many speed dials does the bold have like that?

One for each alphanumeric key. Although I wouldn't want to try remembering them all. :) That's another advantage of the iPhone where you can actually see the contact name in the favorites list.
 
For a medical student, I say go with iPhone.

For a intern or resident, I say go with BB.

Why? As a medical student, a battery life isn't critical as access to internet, 3rd party applications (currently available and future offerings), and multimedia.

As for a intern or resident, you need a long battery life. When you are on call (on or off hospital), you cannot afford to run out of battery. iPhone battery life just cannot sustain you when you are in hospital over 24-36 hours on call (you wont have time to charge your iPhone) even with GPS and 3G off. Many hospital paging systems (main university hospitals) also have option of forwarding alphanumeric page to email. With BB, you get instant pushed email (Even with Me.com, it will use too much battery on iPhone).

Bottom line, go buy yourself iPhone for now. Hope for better battery technology by the time you start your internship.

Oh wait now that ACGME is keep limiting the call hours for resident, you may not have to worry about the battery life ;)
 
before i get flamed, i must say that i have the new iphone, and it is my first apple product and i love it. I just finished internal medicine residency, and have started pulmonary fellowship this month. If you are interested in medical programs, i hate to say it, but WM6 is what you should get, or palm. the only program you can get on the iphone is epocrates, and you are not likely able to write orders yet, so dosing is not too important. With a WM device, or the palm, i was able to get up to date, and tons of skyscape programs which were useful as an intern and medical student. Good luck
 
There are several cardiologist that have the iPhone 2G at the hospital I attend.

There was a person who is higher education from a company that provides all the software/product/help for an electrophysiological lab at the hospital I attend who is very knowledgeable.
He used an iPhone and he used what seemed to be a Blackberry also.
This was shortly before the whole 3G, app store, update.
 
Duh, this is a Mac forum!!

Anyways, welcome!

Another (obvious) vote for iPhone. The App store is young and we already have two great Apps - Netters and Epocrates. There will be more to come.

The software that runs on the BB can't be customized in the same way it can be on iPhone. The BB has a fixed keyboard that's there forever. iPhone can adapt its keyboard to whatever application it is using. Simply put, iPhone gives developers more options.

Multitouch is incredible, especially for web browsing. It really is the closest thing imaginable to a full fledged laptop.

Take what we say with a grain of salt though - because if you go to a BB forum you will get the complete opposite answer! Ultimately we can't make your mind up for you. You need to benefit the pros and cons of each.
 
personal experience.

My dads a doc and my sister is 2nd year in med school, getting my dad one,

i got my sis the 1st gen iphone and she loves it..im going to get her a 3G one too..plus when does the bold even come out? lol
 
I think the first question you want to ask yourself is if you need a pda during your clerkship. A lot of students choose to carry around reference books, or use one of the many computers in the hospital to look up information. At the beginning of my clerkship year, I used many medical programs on my HTC Touch, but my use declined as I got more comfortable. If you think you'll actually use medical programs, then a phone with WM6 or Palm OS will be better. For the iPhone, (from my limited research) there is only epocrates. Skyscape is only going to be available through Wi-fi access, not through an app. If you don't think you will rely on a pda, then get the phone of your preference.
 
Maybe I mislead the OP's question but i don't think that i did. As a physician, I have both a treo 750 and and iphone 1gen and 3g.

Honestly, at the present time the iphone is virtually worthless for use by medical professionals for use in the day to day practice of medicine. Epocrates for iphone is no where near as comprehensive as the suite of products that is available for the palm based platform. I'm sure that this will improve, but for now it is not sufficient for use in my opinion.

With that being said, the iphone is the best handheld device that i have ever used. I use it for everything EXCEPT medical applications, for which i use my treo. I do not use the treo for anything else except for slingbox.

I'm sure that in the future more and more medical software will become available for the iphone, and that eventually the iphone will be an attractive choice for medical professionals. But in its current infancy it is not ready yet to overtake the palm platform, which has a more well established developer community.

So i would suggest using a palm device for medical apps(perhaps a used palm) and an iphone of course for everything else!!

You are wrong my friend.

The best EMR's out there for medical practices are web based now. In the near future, iPhone will have ability to access clinical info in MD's own office record LIVE. That's something Treo can never do because it simply doesn't have the interface.

Currently, I can access my schedule and basic patient records in my office and update rounds and patient list and charges already because of the web based application.

Again, for medial information....websites such as Uptodate, Medscape for medical professional are MUCH MUCH easily accessible on iPhone than any other phone out there and it's not even close.
 
Wow, thank you all for the flood of responses!

I am intrigued by this EMR-on-PDA idea. Can you tell me more about this? Do you think you could post some screenshots?

I find myself leaning towards the BB because I feel I will probably use the messaging part of the phone most, and because being able to quickly take out my phone and make calls, add contacts, and write messages is important to me. A few of the responders discussed the number of steps involved for contact calling on each device. The same whooshing animation that makes the iPhone so cool also frustratingly seems to slow down how long the overall process takes, regardless of steps.

Maybe I'll just get a Touch if the medical software is worth it when I get to the wards?
 
My dads a doc and my sister is 2nd year in med school, getting my dad one,

i got my sis the 1st gen iphone and she loves it..im going to get her a 3G one too..plus when does the bold even come out? lol


I hereby nominate myself to become a honorary member of your family so I too am eligible for free iphones in the future. :D
 
Wow, thank you all for the flood of responses!

I am intrigued by this EMR-on-PDA idea. Can you tell me more about this? Do you think you could post some screenshots?

I find myself leaning towards the BB because I feel I will probably use the messaging part of the phone most, and because being able to quickly take out my phone and make calls, add contacts, and write messages is important to me. A few of the responders discussed the number of steps involved for contact calling on each device. The same whooshing animation that makes the iPhone so cool also frustratingly seems to slow down how long the overall process takes, regardless of steps.

Maybe I'll just get a Touch if the medical software is worth it when I get to the wards?

OK, let's just say I am a senior attending (kind of like the ones that will be asking you lots of questions on rounds and in conferences in your 3rd and 4th years).

I've been looking at medical PDAs since the very beginning. I had Treos galore(up to the 750), several BBs, a Dash (with WM6 smartphone). I trolled and looked at just about every palm medical PDA site out there.

To be honest, I never found anything that met my needs. Sure, there are native palm rounding programs, etc that the housestaff are probably better at advising you on.

For good medical info right next to you, on tap, whereever you are (which is what you really need on the floors, right before the attending finishes with the intern and turns to you), you need the following:

(1) fast internet access
(2) a good, fast browser with bookmarks to medical sites of interest (like Pubmed)
(3) a screen and interface that allows you to rapidly see and get the info you want

The iphone 3G, which I just bought to replace an iPhone 1.0 that I had (one of the benefits to being an attending) fits all of these criteria. Not only are there native apps from the app store, but there are Web Apps (like Pubget) that link directly to Pubmed for ultrafast searching for important articles, especially in 3G. The interface can't be beat.

I suspect, as others have told you, that many palm apps (or palm like apps) for medicine will be ported over to the iphone fairly soon.

You can start using this device with the web apps immediately on the floors.

Yes, I sound like a 45 year old fanboy, but I think that I am typical academic attending who is really into technology.

You whip one of these babies out at morning report or case conference during a discussion to settle a debate over some (usually arcane) point by finding the data online faster than anyone else, and you bet the house officers and attendings will take notice.

A few words of advice:

(1) Know your patients, especially during your medicine rotations. And that includes the morning labs, my friend. Knowing the potassium and fluid balance, and giving it to the overworked intern right before cardflip, makes you a friend for life.

(2) Be nice to everyone, and as helpful as possible to patients, houseofficers, and especially the nurses. You were hopefully preselected with these qualities when you got into medical school, but sometimes my colleagues in academia were out too late the night before the admissions committee and/or sometimes we can get too jazzed about someones research potential and forget this when we choose students.

(3) Finally, if you really get into it, find some attending or houseofficer with an interest in medical computing and informatics and design some iPhone apps yourself. This thing has enormous potential.

Sorry for the long email, and good luck.
 
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