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No more protruding **** please. This gives hope for an all flat back!
It would be a bit chunky.
Even the Samsung periscope systems still have a bit of a bump. You cant flatten the lenses. That's where your bulk comes from.
Apple's desire for thin phones, and people's acceptance of the existing camera bump, means it's highly unlikely that Apple will make the phone thicker just to have a flat back.
 
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I'm curious about the notation in the patent that reads "Z axis". It seems to indicate that the lens system would be horizontally mounted across the top of the device. But currently that's not possible because of the FaceID array. So perhaps Apple will also be reducing the size of (or eliminating) the iPhone notch to accommodate the periscope camera.
 
great news, hope this will actually make it, lack of zoom is holding iPhones back for camera usage
 
If they can keep that periscope stack stable (which I am sure they can), that could bring a whole lot more to the already great camera systems Apple deploys.
 
This tech is already on several smartphones. As usual Apple is late to the game, hopefully in a more refined manner.
to be fair that's usually what Apple does, they're not usually first to market with things, but when they come in they do it with a vastly more refined product (usually, not always)
 
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Why double mirrors?
That’s an unnecessarily complicated design that degrades image quality with no added benefit. Why don’t they use a single mirror like any other manufacturer?
Yeah, I'm wondering what this does to contrast. The more elements light has to travel through, generally the lower contrast and brightness are.
 
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Yeah, I'm wondering what this does to contrast. The more elements light has to travel through, generally the lower contrast and brightness are.
They may be counting on compensating with extra external sensors and the image proc capabilities built into AS chips moving forward, the second part is the reason why the camera in the M1 Airs looks decent despite a rather low res overall
 
Watch out Apple, turning the lenses sideways is going to put two of your favorite things - thinner phones and bigger diameter lenses - in direct opposition to each other. You'll hit a point where you can't make the phone thinner because the lenses would have to be smaller in diameter. 😱
 
My next iPhone from an iPhone 11 Pro Max.

Someday iPhone devices will have one camera. :)
 
Very-likely a posturing move by Apple, to position themselves to cut a better deal with Samsung !

"Hey Sammy, we now have something that (kind of) works, we're still open to using your (better) solution, but NOT at the prices you quoted us"
 
why would you want that? patents literally screw the consumers. ideally, you want no patent to ever exist.
Why would you want patent theft? That's not innovation. Since we have a patent system, we need to enforce it and play by the rules. Chaos and theft ≠ competition.
 
Has big potential to grab peoples attention with the right ad. Will be interesting to see what Apples marketing team does with this.

What they won't show (in those Marketing Ads) is that they will have had the iPhone mounted on a Monopod OR Tripod !

Image Stabilization will be a BIG challenge !
 
First time the iPhone gets dropped, even a foot or two, the periscope lens will likely be broken.

Besides, the best lens in the universe coupled with a tiny sensor equals a crap camera. And there are no camera controls on a smartphone other than on the touchscreen. So other than a few Auto mode photos that will never be award winning, it is still a cracker-jack box toy camera. Albeit it an expensive one.

Meh....
I think you’re missing the point of the improvements to a computer and camera that can fit in your back pocket, or maybe just a lack of foresight.
No one is trying to say this will trump your mirrorless with its ten pound lens, lol. And an iPhone can’t out perform your desktop.
Smartphones in general just do crazy good stuff for something that is smaller than most people’s wallets.

We don’t stop trying to improve tech just because there is already something out there bigger and better. Lol
 
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Why double mirrors?
That’s an unnecessarily complicated design that degrades image quality with no added benefit. Why don’t they use a single mirror like any other manufacturer?
It might be that single prism variants are heavily protected by tons of already existing patents.

Using two prisms, as it is unnecessary, may have been the only patent left that was not yet claimed... hence Apple had to make the design more complicated just in order to not have to pay patent royalties to other companies.

But as was said also, this design has some advantages too, e.g. if the sensor is larger than the thickness of the device. The sensor could be too tall to be mounted upright.
 
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What they won't show (in those Marketing Ads) is that they will have had the iPhone mounted on a Monopod OR Tripod !

Image Stabilization will be a BIG challenge !
The patent authors don't seem to think so. "The lens system may be moved on one or more axes independently of the prisms to provide autofocus and/or optical image stabilization for the camera."
 
Most people on here are Apple shareholders primarily so are happy for millions of other consumers to be screwed
Actually most on here are just trolls that want to be angry about anything and everything. Often times the anger is just for attention or to be a pain and has little personal justification. The same people that complain about phones being too thick one day will complain about them reducing the thickness and therefore the battery the next day. They’ll also complain about it always being cloudy and then complain the sun is too bright once it shines.

Typical tucked up society we have of narcissistic know it all’s that have little relevant knowledge or experience.
 
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