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I recognize the need for patents, but it does feel like the current system stifles innovation at times.

When companies are forced to over complicate designs just to circumvent patents protecting technology that has existed for over 100 years, it just seems silly.

If aliens landed tomorrow and GIFTED you a manufacturing system to make smart phones based on growing crystals out of recycling carbon emissions, you would still unable to mass produce them because you have to connect to a network.
Tech patents should expire after 5 years max. Same with medical patents. If you can't make up the developing costs in 5 years too bad.
 
Innovation comes 10 years after the tech is widely used by others-)
P.S. I am an iPhone user only
 
The article clearly states that Apple hada difficult time because of patents already awarded.

There are already about a dozen Android phones that already have periscope lenses so who exactly would be the trolls?
You, for one, but, I don’t want to stray too off-topic. As you were…
 
C’mon man. It wasn’t even introduced until 2017 and not until the Huawei P30 Pro in 2019 it went mainstream.
Sorry, indeed this innovation will be 6 years on the market by the time Apple innovates it-) made a mistake…6 years, not 10
 
Sorry, indeed this innovation will be 6 years on the market by the time Apple innovates it-) made a mistake…6 years, not 10

Depends on the zoom that’s used. If it’s 10x optical with the option to use A continued zoom between 2x and 10x then no it’s not 6 years old. That kind of tech is expected in 2022 with the next Samsung device.

The parts Apple requires for this tech is in massive components which people never factor in here. The tech that’s on other devices isn’t anywhere near the volume as Apple will require for both pro models
 
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No more protruding **** please. This gives hope for an all flat back!
It could be my new iPhone. I'd still have to argue with the stupid placement of the side button tho... why is it not on top where it belongs?? Or at least move the stupid thing so it's not directly across from the volume up shutter in landscape mode. Moron designer....
 
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Not true, you can use the volume buttons, also if you have an apple watch it can operate as a remote viewfinder
Hah. Do that in landscape mode and let us know. Go on. I'll wait... for you to smash both the volume shutter and side button and lose that cute moment your kid did that will never ever happen again ever...
 
I’m really looking forward to this. High optical zoom can be very useful and this could fundamentally change viral videos. The next time an iPhone is used to capture a massive ammonium nitrate explosion, we’ll be able to see so much more detail.
 
Hah. Do that in landscape mode and let us know. Go on. I'll wait... for you to smash both the volume shutter and side button and lose that cute moment your kid did that will never ever happen again ever...
With the volume and power buttons symmetrical and on opposite sides, my "favorite" is the times when you line up the perfect shot - and turn off your phone, because you pressed one side rather than the other. When the power button (yes, it's not really a power button, more like display sleep) was on top, there was never any confusion.
 
Tech patents should expire after 5 years max. Same with medical patents. If you can't make up the developing costs in 5 years too bad.
Why 5 years? Is this an expert opinion, or just throwing a number out because it has the trappings of compromise? The priority date on this is Feb 2018, so if this sees production in 2023 then a 5 year patent will have expired before it ships.

And this was essentially a variation on an existing technology— it’s often the case that the time between being able to enable an invention and to make a practical product from it is much longer.

20 years is fine. It forces competitors to work toward innovating alternate approaches rather than wait and copy. Other companies had patents on this idea and it didn’t take 20 years for Apple to find a solution. If what they’d found was so unique that there was literally one way to solve the problem then they’d deserve the extended exclusivity because of the magnitude of their invention— but I can’t think of a single time that’s been true.
 
Hah. Do that in landscape mode and let us know. Go on. I'll wait... for you to smash both the volume shutter and side button and lose that cute moment your kid did that will never ever happen again ever...
On my XR it works just fine. Right-thumb to the right of the power button and right-index finger on the volume up. Or if I flip the phone around, left index finger to the left of the power button and left thumb on volume up.
 
So dramatic with your exaggeration.
In truth, I downplayed the comparison— triangulation actually predates Aristotle by 200 years or so.

The point is that everything builds on what came before— you can always find a predecessor, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t innovation in the implementation…
 
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In truth, I downplayed the comparison— triangulation actually predates Aristotle by 200 years or so.

The point is that everything builds on what came before— you can always find a predecessor, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t innovation in the implementation…
Sure but some people are acting like Apple can’t innovate because other phones are using twenty year old camera tech first.
 
Sure but some people are acting like Apple can’t innovate because other phones are using twenty year old camera tech first.
Ah… I missed your point the first time through, and took you for one of those people.

Fair point— sorry for not parsing that more carefully.
 
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It’s a good idea, but why on earth can you patent a Periscope? They’ve been about since the seventeenth century!
 
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