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either lower the iPhone price or offer a reduction in AT&T service.
If they keep the current service plans and iPhone prices, I am sorry but I'll pass. I rather wait for the touchscreen widescreen iPod and keep my current carrier and phone.

Funny, I could give a damn about the iPod. I'm just looking for a good phone/email/contacts/calendar device.

The current devices like palms and and blackberrys are about like a PC is to a Mac. They do the job, but from what I've seen the iPhone does it right. I guess I'd buy a PC if the Macintosh didn't exist, but since it does...
 
Funny, I could give a damn about the iPod. I'm just looking for a good phone/email/contacts/calendar device.

The current devices like palms and and blackberrys are about like a PC is to a Mac. They do the job, but from what I've seen the iPhone does it right. I guess I'd buy a PC if the Macintosh didn't exist, but since it does...


different people, different needs.

I would love like you a device that does it all like the iPhone. But I rather have a 100gig iPod that I can storage all my media and carry it around, plus a 5" screen would be awesome.
I am pretty sure the widescreen iPod will incorporate contacts and calendar, it will miss the wi-fi, camera and phone(of course) features.

I love the iPhone, but the limited storage and Cingular is a downer in my case. So, a lower price or cheaper service plan "could" be a deal maker. We'll see.
I just hope the widescreen iPod will be here before October.;)
 
Not as appealing as selling it unlocked to begin with. Visual voicemail may require some special setup with Cingular, but other than that, does the iPhone have any other features that require Cingular? No.

So now you have to ask yourself, is Visual Voicemail worth changing carriers over?

I think the ad is fake also, however if this is indeed an ad so Cingular/ATT can get reaction, here is my .02. The rate plan of 39.99 for 450 "rollover" minutes will not encourage me to go and switch carriers any time soon. I get 1000 anytime, anywhere minutes for that price with my current cell phone carrier that I use for business during the daytime, so why switch?

Using my cell phone for business I don't need 5000 night and weekend minutes, but 5000 daytime minutes would be nice:D And mobile to mobile is free, can someone clarify, when that is stated does that mean on the same carrier network or any mobile call made or received whether it be a T-Mobile-Cingular, Alltel-Cingular, Sprint-Cingular, Verizon-Cingular call etc., excuse me, please replace Cingular with the new AT&T.

In any event, to pay 39.99 for so few daytime minutes (just 7.5 hours daylight talk time in one month! or around 22 minutes for each Monday through Friday of the month) + 19.99 for a data rate plan if this holds true just doesn't sound encouraging. I would think about switching, I'm on month to month with my current carrier but NOT to this, not for my purposes and needs and not even to own an Apple iPhone at 299.00/399.00.

In other words... "I' ain't saying that it's wrong for you, it just don't make sense to me" Toby Keith/"it Works For Me"/Unleashed.:rolleyes:
 
Touchscreen iPod

While that would be exciting, to be honest, I would expect the next video ipod to have the touchscreen/UI of the iPhone, but still have a hard drive. I don't think that flash prices have dropped sufficiently in order to have enough space on the ipod to satisfy consumers at the same price point.

Very likely around the corner, that's a given. The flash drive
factor has yet to settle in, though, since some new breakthroughs
have just been set into motion regarding flash technology.
 
I think the ad is fake also, however if this is indeed an ad so Cingular/ATT can get reaction, here is my .02. The rate plan of 39.99 for 450 "rollover" minutes will not encourage me to go and switch carriers any time soon. I get 1000 anytime, anywhere minutes for that price with my current cell phone carrier that I use for business during the daytime, so why switch?

Using my cell phone for business I don't need 5000 night and weekend minutes, but 5000 daytime minutes would be nice:D And mobile to mobile is free, can someone clarify, when that is stated does that mean on the same carrier network or any mobile call made or received whether it be a T-Mobile-Cingular, Alltel-Cingular, Sprint-Cingular, Verizon-Cingular call etc., excuse me, please replace Cingular with the new AT&T.

In any event, to pay 39.99 for so few daytime minutes (just 7.5 hours daylight talk time in one month! or around 22 minutes for each Monday through Friday of the month) + 19.99 for a data rate plan if this holds true just doesn't sound encouraging. I would think about switching, I'm on month to month with my current carrier but NOT to this, not for my purposes and needs and not even to own an Apple iPhone at 299.00/399.00.

In other words... "I' ain't saying that it's wrong for you, it just don't make sense to me" Toby Keith/"it Works For Me"/Unleashed.:rolleyes:

I just wanted to add this as an idea and to the conversation... What do others think...

A carrier that has an a la carte minutes package in 250 mintue increments for the different service offerings so that a customer can create their own plan to fit their specific needs...

ie. me I need daytime minutes not so much night or weekend so I would check off 1500 daytime and 250 night minutes (these minutes include all seven days so weekend is included)

A "Paris Hilton" type who is bar hopping and going to parties all night and sleeps most of the day might create a plan of 2000 night minutes and 750 daytime minutes.

A parent who wants their child to have a cell phone for "just in case" can get a plan that has 250 daytime and 250 nighttime minutes.

Now these packet of minutes have to be priced right, and not flat rate otherwise it's no better off then the current "plans" available to the consumer

Think of the possibilities each individual with their unique lifestyles and needs and financial ability can utilize such an offering. There has to be a better way of doing things with these stupid cell phone plans that only partially meet one's needs.

Just a thought, who else out there can add or detract from such a "minutes plan"? Speak out and be heard!!!!:eek:
 
Hell's yes
One feature is worth changing carriers over? You must get a hell of a lot of voicemail!

I think the ad is fake also, however if this is indeed an ad so Cingular/ATT can get reaction, here is my .02. The rate plan of 39.99 for 450 "rollover" minutes will not encourage me to go and switch carriers any time soon. I get 1000 anytime, anywhere minutes for that price with my current cell phone carrier that I use for business during the daytime, so why switch?

I get 300 anytime minutes and 50 free incoming text messages, plus first incoming minute free for $29.95/mo. Most would say I'm getting ripped off in minutes, but I don't need any more and I think some people don't think about how much their text messaging can add to their bill.

I've noticed over the years that $40/mo seems to be the magic price point in the cell phone industry. It's the service price they seem to push most and any plan for less than that always seems to be rather disproportionately under-featured. But it's more than I'm interested in spending.

Wow... the information was actually pulled. This is getting exciting! :D
I think it's funny since practically all the info is in the individual posts in this thread still.
 
For those who like the idea of visual voicemail, you should know that you can get it NOW, FOR FREE, and with pretty much whoever your carrier is. Just get the Callwave widget and set up your phone to forward to their free visual voicemails servers. You can still check your messages from your phone, but they are also there waiting for you in your widget when you're by the computer. (It's great for being able to go back and check some bit on info you need, and for deleting the messages that pile up because you just forgot to delete them).
 
Wow, taken down, puts more weight to this being true...I hope so 399 would be really nice
I think that just confirms that the survey went out-- there's no confirmation on what actions will be taken as a result.

"Puts more weight" is probably a better phrasing, actually. Could have been pulled because the firm credited with the survey may not have actually conducted it.

Not sure how anyone would think they could conduct a public, electronic survey and keep it quiet...
 
You guys pay for incoming text messages? What kinda weird world is America?

That's why people get incredibly pissed about SMS-Spam over here. And the free incoming text messages I get isn't even normal. That and the first incoming minute free are little bonuses I have for holding onto a rate plan for 6+ years. You can't get it at all today unless you buy a high end rate plan that includes unlimited texting.

Things like these and per-second billing used to be available to consumers who picked the right carrier. But the big guns in the U.S. wireless carriers got together around the end of the 90's and started swallowing up the little startups that introduced these features. Then they just dropped the plans and waited for people to migrate off the old contracts because they wanted new phones or changed carriers, ect.

Competition at its finest, eh?
 
Eh? Isn't that crazy.
It's like paying to receive a letter someone hasn't stamped or something.
Does that mean if you pay to receive you don't pay to send?

No, we pay both ways.

If this sounds dumb I'm reminded of the fact cell phone users use minutes for calls they make and calls they receive, whereas on a land line phone it's the initiator of the call that pays.

I had a friend who had buddies that lived long distance and when he was living on his own and broke he would call them and tell them to call him back, then he'd hang up with them. They would call him back and then they could talk at leisure since it was his buddies (or their parents to be more accurate) who paid the LD phone charges instead of him.
 
No, we pay both ways.

If this sounds dumb I'm reminded of the fact cell phone users use minutes for calls they make and calls they receive, whereas on a land line phone it's the initiator of the call that pays.
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Crazy. Here in the UK you do not pay to receive mobile phone calls, nor texts either.
EDIT: and if you're on a contract, your free minutes mean minutes where you have called someone - if someone calls you on your mobile it doesn't use any of your minutes - people would be outraged if they tried to introduce that here.
 
I get 300 anytime minutes and 50 free incoming text messages,

You have to pay to receive texts? Wow. I pay £25 per month and get 100 minutes, 1000 texts and receive as many texts as I want. I also got a free phone (worth £125) and £100 cashback. (to convert to US$ double). EDIT And you don't use any minutes to receive calls ;).
 
You have to pay to receive texts? Wow. I pay £25 per month and get 100 minutes, 1000 texts and receive as many texts as I want. I also got a free phone (worth £125) and £100 cashback. (to convert to US$ double). EDIT And you don't use any minutes to receive calls ;).
Yeah and all of this makes me curious about how Apple are going to sell the iphone here. If you're on a pretty expensive monthly contract, don't most people expect the phone to be free (or if it's a high end phone then at least cheap as it's being subsidised heavily by the phone company?)
 
Yeah and all of this makes me curious about how Apple are going to sell the iphone here. If you're on a pretty expensive monthly contract, don't most people expect the phone to be free (or if it's a high end phone then at least cheap as it's being subsidised heavily by the phone company?)

Since Orange "gave" me £225 for my phone ($450), if subsidised the 4GB iPhone could easily be £50-£100 on a £25/month contract which would be an excellent price. Otherwise you might get a much better tariff.
 
Yeah and all of this makes me curious about how Apple are going to sell the iphone here. If you're on a pretty expensive monthly contract, don't most people expect the phone to be free...

Yes.

Well not necessarily an expensive contract, I pay around £25 a month and got a K800i this year, worth in the region of £250 I'd say.
 
Yes.

Well not necessarily an expensive contract, I pay around £25 a month and got a K800i this year, worth in the region of £250 I'd say.
And at current exchange rates £250 = $500ish...so free iphones for us? :D
I wouldn't count on it though. They'll probably do the dollar-to-pound conversion they do for all Apple products so that we end up paying almost twice as much as in the US...
 
You have to pay to receive texts? Wow. I pay £25 per month and get 100 minutes, 1000 texts and receive as many texts as I want. I also got a free phone (worth £125) and £100 cashback. (to convert to US$ double). EDIT And you don't use any minutes to receive calls ;).

Yea, in the US you usually pay the same price for receiving and sending calls and text messages. I prefer the European model too.
 
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