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I will never understand why some people just have to buy a new iPhone every year. Every 2-3 years makes sense but every year? I guess they just can’t stand being seen with an older model in public.

What you’re saying isn’t the ‘norm’ for the average consumer, they don’t typically upgrade their phones every single year. For those who do upgrade annually, they’re more ‘tech oriented’, but the majority keep their phones for a minimum of two years until it’s either paid off or they feel the need to upgrade for ‘XYZ’ reasons.
 
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Sales wise they still did pretty well but there is also the fact that people are keeping phones for longer and the real world usage difference for a lot of people between lower and upper end devices is not as stark as it was many years ago. The overall market is starting to stagnate.
I’m keeping my old iPhone Plus longer because the pricing of the new iPhone Max is ridiculous.

Had the XS Max been a better value, esp. with a decently priced 128 GB option, I would have bought one. However, instead Apple chose to overprice it, so I said no thanks.
 
This is rather odd...Are we sure it's the lower price that doing this?

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My iPhone X is already so good at what it does that the Xs wasn't compelling enough to me to upgrade and start the IUP cycle again. And, unless the 2019 iPhones offer some fantastic new features, I'll probably stick with the X for another year. So, like many others, I'm keeping my iPhones longer these days. Lowering the price might make a difference, but the drop would have to be dramatic, and I don't expect that to happen.
 
People have been claiming Apple sales would dip for years now -- they have been wrong every single year until now. We all knew that sales are bounded above, so all those sceptics were bound to be right some day. Granted, that day has come now, but claiming it's just common sense that led you to that conclusion is ridiculous -- it was sheer luck.

yup, and just sheer luck that Balmer tanked Microsoft..
 
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Hey here’s an idea- maybe if we all stop buying the latest IPhones here on the stateside, Apple might also drop the ridiculous prices here! Bunker down people!
 
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I just… can't imagine why that would work…

Maybe they actually raised the prices, and that's why sales are improving.

Why would people would be more likely to buy a phone selling for less?

I just can't wrap my mind around this…
They mention the ending of subsidies in China and the strong dollar having a huge impact on prices and that they were buying down exchange difference. They are actually still higher than here after that and sells are booming.
 
I’m keeping my old iPhone Plus longer because the pricing of the new iPhone Max is ridiculous.

Had the XS Max been a better value, esp. with a decently priced 128 GB option, I would have bought one. However, instead Apple chose to overprice it, so I said no thanks.
Max wasn’t overpriced at least in my opinion. Apple priced it for the tech in the phone. YMMV.
 
This is not about cutting sale prices. Apple’s MSRP remains the same. It’s about cutting the price of the iPhone to the resellers. This allows the resellers to gain more profit, thus motivating them to push iPhones to consumers (be it through discounts, specials, etc). Apple’s own prices at their store didn’t change.

Most Chinese buy iPhones overseas anyway since it’s still cheaper than the prices in China. Apple stores in Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, and even Australia are filled with Chinese buying iPhones.
 
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Chinese import taxes and Indian import taxes are a serious problem for consumers.
$749 in US vs $958 in China. Are you kidding me?
The XR retails at $1064 in India.
 

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Miss when phones were $200

This again?

Those were misleading prices. You might have only had to surrender $200 at the time of purchase... but I guarantee that you were paying for the rest of it in your monthly cell phone bill. The carriers were not giving you a gift.

The old subsidized prices were $200, $100, and Free.

Why don't you say "I miss when phones were free" ?

Do you hear how silly that sounds? :p
 
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This again?

Those were misleading prices. You might have only had to surrender $200 at the time of purchase... but I guarantee that you were paying for the rest of it in your monthly cell phone bill. The carriers were not giving you a gift.

The old subsidized prices were $200, $100, and Free.

Why don't you say "I miss when phones were free" ?

Do you hear how silly that sounds? :p
Yea but phone service didn’t decrease in price, so we are still paying subsidized prices and no cheap phones.
 
But they don't see a reaaon to drop the US pricing?! Reasonable (US) pricing would be:
iPhone SE $250
iPhone 7 $350
iPhone 8 $450
iPhone 8 Plus $550
iPhone XR = $600
iPhone XS = $700
iPhone XS Max = $800

All 64GB, except X-models should all be 128GB standard.

And if they're smart they'll release an iPhone 5/SE size full-screen-display phone with the same camera & processor as the XR, and sell it for $550. That alone would sell like hotcakes & bring them back from the brink.

It's crazy to pay $800 for a phone w/year-old or 2nd-tier tech. $800 should be for the top-of-the-line model, w/128GB. $1100 for a 64GB phone is ******* crazy. $1250 for 256GB, w/no 128GB option?! Fhuuuuuuck youuuuu!!!
 
I think need to Applaud for Macrumorus. Out of the few major Apple news outlet, they are the only one to print this out accurately

Apple dropped iPhone prices for third-party distributors in China on January 10

Apple didn't drop the official prices in China, as many of the others report, they dropped the wholesale price to 3rd party.
Apple didn't drop the prices just now, it happened a while ago.

And just to say this again, Apple doesn't have a problem with pricing. It has a problem with value.
It is not the $1099 that most people cant afford, they can they are just not willing to. It is the $1099 doesn't bring enough value that people justify to spend it.

I will ask the question again, would you have a problem with the current pricing if Apple offered Solid Battery across all the new iPhone and gives you 2.5X the battery capacity while keeping everything the same?
 
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Apple is seeing improved iPhone sales in China following some recent price cuts on the iPhone XR, XS, XS Max, and older models that were introduced earlier in January, reports Chinese site Feng.

Apple dropped iPhone prices for third-party distributors in China on January 10, allowing vendors to purchase iPhones more cheaply and pass those savings on to customers. Apple cut prices on most iPhone models, but the XR saw the biggest discounts.

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Shortly after Apple implemented the pricing cuts, vendors in China started offering discounts on various iPhone models. The XR, for example, was available from JD.com for 6099 yuan ($899), while Suning, an electronics store similar to Best Buy, started selling iPhone XR for 6199 yuan ($914).

Those prices are more affordable than the iPhone XR from Apple's own online store, where the device is priced starting at 6499 yuan ($958).

According to Feng, data sourced from Alibaba suggests that iPhone sales on the site have increased by 76 percent in China since January 13. Suning, meanwhile, saw Apple traffic and sales "explode" with the iPhone 8, 8 Plus, and XR in particular seeing purchase boosts. Apple sales from Suning have increased by 83 percent since January 11.

Apple launched the price cuts after seeing iPhone sales fall significantly in China during the holiday quarter of 2018, leading to lower iPhone revenue than expected. The Cupertino company is hoping sales will soar during Chinese New Year in February, improving overall performance in China.

Apple is also promoting older iPhone trade-ins and monthly pricing for iPhones in many countries around the world, including the United States, in an effort to boost iPhone upgrade numbers.

Earlier this week, Apple CEO Tim Cook said that Apple is reevaluating its pricing strategies in some international markets, returning to pricing that's "more commensurate" with what local prices were last year to boost its iPhone sales.

Cook also said that he does believe Apple's higher prices were a factor in the declining number of iPhone upgrades that led to a weaker holiday quarter. In some international markets, the strength of the U.S. dollar amplified pricing increases.

Apple is expecting revenue of $55 to $59 billion in the second fiscal quarter of 2019 (first calendar quarter), which is below the $61.1 billion in revenue Apple earned in the second fiscal quarter of 2018. It's not clear if the pricing changes in China and other international markets will be a big enough boost to pull Apple out of its slump going forward, but for the first part of the year, Apple is still expecting lower iPhone sales.

Article Link: iPhone Sales Growing Following Price Cuts in China
 
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The XR retails at $1064 in India.

Yes, Chinese import tax makes sense, since iPhone is made in ..., oops, never mind.

Also, why don’t they convert directly the dollar value to the other currency value?
Let’s say, Xr is $749 but in Japan it is $840. Just make it $750 everywhere.
And as for India, the price is absolutely crazy.
 
Converted to U.S. dollars, that's still a lot for the XR and I can't imagine how much it cost without the "discount". Besides, we don't know if the sales increased with the discount since Apple no longer disclose sales figure anymore. As for Tim blaming on the strong U.S. dollar, the strength of the dollar will always fluctuate. If Tim thinks sales will increase during the Lunar New Year, he will see it is a wrong assumption.
 
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