That’s obviously because Apple discontinued the iPhone mini. 😁
At some point they'll have to start putting the prices down.
I mean, there has been no significant design change in years and perhaps most people don't care about AI features... there are so many times we can buy the same phone every year.
3? I used to be a 1 year, then 2, then 3. Now I seriously think I’m a 4 year man.I've asked my wife if she wants to upgrade her 13Pro to a 16Pro and the response was "meh". I'd take over her 13Pro to replace my XS which is my work phone (I do work/life balance by not having work email and apps on my primary phone). But even with a new 16Pro resulting in basically two upgrades, we still haven't bothered to pull the trigger. The AI features that I got on my 15Pro are not the slightest bit compelling so far either. Is three year upgrade cycle the new two year upgrade cycle? Maybe.
Before the announcement I was sure to do the same thing. Exact same upgrade. But I just couldn't find a reason to, there wasn't really a single thing about it that would've been really exciting to get.[...]I upgraded my 13 Pro to a 16 Pro, only because my employer paid for it. It has been the most boring, lateral upgrade of any tech in recent memory. A month later, it feels exactly the same as my 13 Pro did.
Even numbered iPhones are the S modelsWell, there wasn't a massive difference between iPhone 15 and 16 apart from a dedicated camera button which no one asked for. Or the delayed AI fiasco.
We need, as our American cousins say, something tangible that's worthy of upgrade. This will be unpopular opinion but there is nothing incitcing me to upgrade from my iPhone 13 Mini.
Wholeheartedly disagree there. On the Android side they are constantly trying new things like phones with multiple displays that fold into tablets and whatnot. Apple has been fixated on the same form factor (more or less) for 15 years.There really isn't much to do in terms of form factor, materials, or hardware performance at this late stage in smartphone development.
Apple supports their products for a long time almost 7-8 yrs. which is great value, what they need is more innovation.I have an iPhone 13 Pro and it's still going strong. If they want more sales they need to make the products more fragile (which they are rumoured to be doing for the 17 Pro).
by now the 13 should have been losing battery capacity and the XS (!!!) should be long past its Use By date...I've asked my wife if she wants to upgrade her 13Pro to a 16Pro and the response was "meh". I'd take over her 13Pro to replace my XS which is my work phone (I do work/life balance by not having work email and apps on my primary phone). But even with a new 16Pro resulting in basically two upgrades, we still haven't bothered to pull the trigger. The AI features that I got on my 15Pro are not the slightest bit compelling so far either. Is three year upgrade cycle the new two year upgrade cycle? Maybe.
you rarely, if ever, see an Android foldable screen in use in public here.Wholeheartedly disagree there. On the Android side they are constantly trying new things like phones with multiple displays that fold into tablets and whatnot. Apple has been fixated on the same form factor (more or less) for 15 years.
It would be fun to see Apple cannibilize their iPhone sales with the next big thing.
the sales data doesnt show that.Small sample size of course, but I've never seen more people either switching to Android outright, or talking about switching more seriously than ever before, than I have over the past couple of years.
I'll always enter these discussions to say this: The fact that you don't feel a need to upgrade your phone most likely has more to do with how good phones are now, such that you'll use them for the 2-3-4 years you mention. That's a testament to the greatness of Apple phones.3? I used to be a 1 year, then 2, then 3. Now I seriously think I’m a 4 year man.
With no new compelling features why upgrade and pay the Apple tax?
I love my 13 Pro! It’s gonna take something big to pry it outta my hands!I have an iPhone 13 Pro and it's still going strong. If they want more sales they need to make the products more fragile (which they are rumoured to be doing for the 17 Pro).
At some point they'll have to start putting the prices down.
I mean, there has been no significant design change in years and perhaps most people don't care about AI features... there are so many times we can buy the same phone every year.
Not increasing prices is reducing them in real terms, since inflation has been so high and biting into the value of money. Samsung and Google have been increasing prices by hundreds of dollars.
This. The problem is this goes counter to stockholders that demand infinite growth. My biggest hope as a consumer is that Apple crumbles under it's own weight and ends up taking itself private. Investors are nothing but locusts.This article makes it sound like Apple is selling fewer iPhones. They’re not, the number just isn’t growing as fast as others.
That’s not a catastrophe. Far from it. That’s expected, given Apple has been making these to last MUCH longer and still be useful compared to most of the comparable Android phones out there.
If I didn’t have a 15PM right now, I’d have leapt on a 16 Plus as an upgrade from my 13. But I DO have it, and I feel no driving need to upgrade till maybe the 17 or 18 series. It’s just that good.
If I had an android? Sure, I’d be looking to upgrade sooner because it would already be showing its age.
Plus, Apple makes a metric ton of cash off of their services these days. They can afford to sell more-but-slightly-less-more-than-desired bits of hardware due to that.This. The problem is this goes counter to stockholders that demand infinite growth. My biggest hope as a consumer is that Apple crumbles under it's own weight and ends up taking itself private. Investors are nothing but locusts.