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Cannot believe they had the nerve to raise the price on the entry level iPhone. What an awkward and unattractive price point. Guess they're just not making enough money over there at Apple.
 
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What is the problem with Android itself? It's actually an excellent OS for mobile devices.

That would require a long post and we’d probably disagree anyway. But let’s just say: I like to get OS updates regularly, for 4-5,years guaranteed, without waiting and for a long time. I prefer the App ecosystem. I prefer how the OS looks and feels. I prefer how it integrates with my other devices.

And I didn’t mention specific problems with Android, just that some people don’t like it, or like it but like iPhone much more.
 
As the owner of a 12 mini, I can unequivocally say that the new SE is a much better value than the 12 mini.
As Mini 12 owner I can attest that it is not, nothing for me would be better in SE, price difference aside, the rest is worse in SE and trust me, I did my research, handled SE multiple times in store, didnt convince me in neither aspect.
Unless buy/wont buy is ruled by lack/presence of touch ID that is.
 
The problem is the “Android” part. If you want an iPhone, you want an iPhone. This is not the cheapest phone you can buy, it’s the cheapest iPhone you can buy.
You really need to have a craving for iOS to be willing to put 200$ extra (i.e., twice the price) compared to the competition.
If you are already deep into the ecosystem (i.e., Apple Watch, Mac, iPad), I can understand, otherwise, it's harder to justify.
At 400$, you can have a very nice Android phone.
 
With the improvements, $30 extra seems ok. Should be getting software update for many years to come.
 
You really need to have a craving for iOS to be willing to put 200$ extra (i.e., twice the price) compared to the competition.

A lot of factors can go into the purchase of the phone beyond price. Some of these include resale value, how long it will be eligible for OS and security updates, etc. Which 5G Android phone can you get for around $200 (half the price) that you think compares well against the 2022 iPhone SE?
 
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You really need to have a craving for iOS to be willing to put 200$ extra (i.e., twice the price) compared to the competition.
If you are already deep into the ecosystem (i.e., Apple Watch, Mac, iPad), I can understand, otherwise, it's harder to justify.
At 400$, you can have a very nice Android phone.

I guess I have a craving for iOS then, I'd be more than willing to put $200 extra for the iPhone because I like it more. I think that's enough to justify it.
 
A lot of factors can go into the purchase of the phone beyond price. Some of these include resale value, how long it will be eligible for OS and security updates, etc. Which 5G Android phone can you get for around $200 (half the price) that you think compares well against the 2022 iPhone SE?
Not 5G, but the Redmi Note 10 Pro is a good contender.
Don't forget the 5G in the SE is 2x2 MIMO and no mmWave.

I agree on the resale value tho'. Nothing beats the iPhone on that one!
 
That would require a long post and we’d probably disagree anyway. But let’s just say: I like to get OS updates regularly, for 4-5,years guaranteed, without waiting and for a long time. I prefer the App ecosystem. I prefer how the OS looks and feels. I prefer how it integrates with my other devices.

And I didn’t mention specific problems with Android, just that some people don’t like it, or like it but like iPhone much more.
Fair enough . But a lot of these issues are on Mobile phone makers (infrequent OS updates) and App developers(App ecosystem) specially for tablets. But if one gets a top end Android flagship phone from Samsung or One Plus without bloated customisation , then the phones are pretty good with guaranteed 5 yrs of seamless service. Android actually has its own ecosystem and it can do wonders as well.

Nothing to take away from iPhone and iOS. It is in a league of its own when it comes to stability and optimization. Android on the other hand does allow lots of customisation and it has its own fun.

As far as cell phones are concerned I see they both have pros and cons depending on use case. It's the tablet segment where Apple is miles away so far but looks like Google and Samsung is finally trying to address the gap there with latest offerings.
 
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apple should have stuck with 200 even with inflation it would grab more new users a taste of apple ecosystem and it wouldn’t cost apple much in the long run sadly , I think this is a bad decision in the long run
 
I'm laughing... the only reason I'd want a 2022 iPhone SE is because my iPhone 6S is down to 82% battery lifespan remaining (so it doesn't last as long) and the flaky charging port... oh, wait... I just cleaned out my charging port with a safety pin (darn lint keeps messing things up!)... works fine now... and iOS 13.4 is still doing fine for me (I don't want the Covid-19 tracking and the battery-draining extra features of iOS 15.3.1)... so it's just my battery life. I might upgrade, if the battery life is really good on the 2022 SE. Or I might grab a 2020 SE, if I can get one cheap at our local Verizon (they're out of stock, currently).
 
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