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iPhone SE 4 to Complete Apple's Switch to OLED Across iPhone Lineup

gphome said:
They'll still need to produce all those chips for the iPad, iPad Mini, and iPhone 15's
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It’s literally in the post that there’s the assumption that by the time the SE 4 comes around, both the regular iPad and iPad mini will have been updated. Rumours indicate A18.

iPhone 15 is a wildcard - also in the post - but regardless, than they get to drop A14, A15 and A17 Pro.
 
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Lounge vibes 05 said:
Blind person here, and you absolutely do not speak for us all.
Just like sited people, some of us get used to it and the rest will eventually get used to it.
And, especially for VoiceOver users, FaceID and TouchID are identified by the exact same unlocking sound, so it absolutely isn’t any more or less difficult to know if it worked or not because it literally will tell you if it worked or not.
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I'm fairly certain I at no point said ALL. I in fact believe I said "many". Perhaps I should have said "some". As someone who takes care of a blind person & frequents the local association for the blind, the SE has been the primary recommended phone of choice. Touch ID has been turned off in many cases, for fear of when the phone does ask for one to randomly input their passcode in to confirm it's them. For older blind persons this is a daunting task, that basically locks the phone for them until someone can input their ( as you know, since there are no tactile buttons it's a chore to input the code & for some the left & right swiping can be frustrating if one is panicking ) code.

I don't know how many times I have said or heard others point out the sound the phone makes when the screen goes dark, but some persons aren't aware of it & then the phone isn't taking input. So they wonder what's going on, and so on...

Reverend Benny said:
Just use the ActionButton and assign that as a home button.
Many older have issues with the touch ID as fingerprints doesn't work as well with older peoples fingers as well.

  1. Go to shortcuts and click all shortcuts
  2. and press + to create a short cut
  3. type in “Go to homescreen”
  4. Go to settings>action button>shortcuts>type in “go to Home Screen”.
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I will try that. As I said, the ID can be turned off, so that isn't an issue, making the home button a comfortable input. With older persons going into the settings is not something they may want to do. So if there are any changes when the phone updates or whatever they may not care for that. I just worry that once I change it for them, it stays that way for them. Having the home button as a default has been a selling point of the SE.
 
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Lounge vibes 05 said:
Same in 2020, the SE2 was only $399 while the XR was $599, but the SE had a newer chip, night mode in the camera, and other internal improvements it's more expensive brother in the XR did not.
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While your overall point is right, and user Ctrlos seems to not believe this has been the case with all three iPhone SE, to be fair, the SE 2020, with an A13, didn’t have night mode, while the equivalent major iPhone (iPhone 11, with an A13 as well) had night mode. In fact, it was the model that introduced it night mode to the iPhone.

But not only that. With the SE 3 carrying an impressive A15 just like the iPhone 13, it doesn’t have night mode either, for some reason. And night mode is achieved mainly through the processor, not the lens, AFAIF.
 
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I just bought a spare 11 and may get the current SE before the refresh to make sure I have PWM free phones to use for some time going forward. Let's see how long the 11 with get iOS updates. I kinda think 18 will be the last major version.

I don't care about having a flagship device, I just wish there could be one decent option without PWM. Same goes for MacBooks and iPads. The Air I can use, the Pro I can't. I haven't tried the M3 Pro though. The Watch is no issue, because it's a tiny light source and I look at it for seconds at a time.

Having flicker sensitive migraines suck, but I'd rather use outdated devices than suffer from migraines 24/7.
 
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Ctrlos said:
There is no way Apple are going to make a USB-C iPhone 14 for £399, even if it does only have one camera. The iPhone 13 is still £599. The iPhone 14 itself will drop to this price next week as the 13 is discontinued. Assuming they're reaching for the same price point as the SE I'd expect an A16 max processor, 4GB of RAM and the regular mute switch.
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More likely for £499 with the iPhone 14 being discontinued in the spring of 2025. A18 and 8GB of RAM for AI.
 
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platinumaqua said:
I prefer LCDs for its longevity, but I guess the ship has sailed
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modern OLED displays are a lot better on burn in than they used to be, and the OS plays some tricks with slight changing of pixels to avoid it as well. I'm personally not worried about the longevity these days on a phone. On a mac, with large static display assets like the menubar it might be a bigger concern still
 
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jonnyb098 said:
So what’s the excuse for not bringing OLED and face ID to the rest of the iPad lineup like they did with the phones?
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The type of OLED used in mobile devices (as opposed to TVs) are more expensive in the larger sizes used by iPads as the yield is lower. They also have a tendency to warp a little causing the image to shift as the substrate is not rigid. That is why they used the dual-layer OLED on the IPad Pros as it provides more stiffness and compensates for burn-in. It is also significantly more expensive.
 
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one more said:
You never know, Apple might throw in 10-12 GB into their 16 Pro, while giving 8 GB to the masses.
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They won't. It's apple. They knowingly gimped the Iphone 15 with 6gb of ram even though they knew apple intelligence would likely require at least 8gb, thereby ensuring planned obsolescence. Games like this are becoming more and more tiresome.
 
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Populus said:
While your overall point is right, and user Ctrlos seems to not believe this has been the case with all three iPhone SE, to be fair, the SE 2020, with an A13, didn’t have night mode, while the equivalent major iPhone (iPhone 11, with an A13 as well) had night mode. In fact, it was the model that introduced it night mode to the iPhone.

But not only that. With the SE 3 carrying an impressive A15 just like the iPhone 13, it doesn’t have night mode either, for some reason. And night mode is achieved mainly through the processor, not the lens, AFAIF.
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That’s my mistake.
It was smart HDR, which I was thinking of, a feature enabled by the A13 that was advertised with the second generation SE.
 
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Tagbert said:
The type of OLED used in mobile devices (as opposed to TVs) are more expensive in the larger sizes used by iPads as the yield is lower. They also have a tendency to warp a little causing the image to shift as the substrate is not rigid. That is why they used the dual-layer OLED on the IPad Pros as it provides more stiffness and compensates for burn-in. It is also significantly more expensive.
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That makes sense….unfortunately inherently it has more grain since the PPI is much lower than the iPhone which hides it.
 
Japan needs to build a oled plant, there technology is much superior & reliable in comparison to South Korean display manufactures like LG & Samsung.

I own two Sony oled TVs and both which use LG panels have dead pixels, but Sonys in house tech & audio is awesome. It’s because of this that I am a bit hesitant to upgrade to a MacBook Pro with oled display on day one.
 
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