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Out of the box you cant connect an iPhone 7 to the MacBook.Thats insane.Even the beautiful Apple LED on the back was removed.Steve Jobs wouldnt let any of this happen.This CEO is actually advertising thin laptops,emoji touchbars and 0.55mm key travel.What sort of a professional user cares about key travel or thinness.Who cares about touch bars when you are using last year Skylake processors with power guzzling AMD Radeon?Why do I need to carry a bundle of dongles for my "pro" use cases?This Mac is uninspired and just a throwaway bone to the complainers.The iPad Pro 12.9 and 9.7 have so many compromises just picking one over the other.I am not even getting into the Mini 4 and the Mini 2.iPhone SE still uses that old design with not a single visible chassis change

I watched both MS and Google events and even they seemed to have more direction than Apple currently does
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They are declining in the here and now


So you dump it?Dump a valuable group of creative professionals devoted to the platform when we have Microsoft supporting an OS with 0.5% marketshare.No wonder the sales are declining


Timmy is also credited with having the lowest operating margin in 7 years and being the first CEO under whom product sales declined


There is no competition for the iPad apart from Surface which is in a completely different price range so you cant outsell something which doesnt exist


And with those blunders he came out with the product which currently holds more than 60% of Apple revenues.Where is AW in that chart?I dont see it
they have declined for one quarter. Apple still has $230b cash in the bank, MVC and makes in a quarter what most competitors make in a year, and the stock is going up. So what's the important metric, Harp on declining quarter or look at the big picture. (I know the answer) All of this from Timmy who is responsible for the biggest seller ever. Period.
 
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I see more Apple watches than any other, the people who have them like them. So I don't know who gave it a lukewarm reception. They seem to be outselling the competition.

Out in the world I'm a new Apple phone person, got my first 5s. And my family now has all iPhones, 2 iPads, 2 MacBooks and an atv. This is recently. Nobody really knows where Apple will he headed, but I don't suspect downhill.
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I don't think it's incremental, so different strokes for different folks. My own viewpoint it's a new and better product. Using the logic you put forth a 2017 Honda is an incremental upgrade from a 1990 Honda. Where does it stop? The iPhone or iPod wasn't invented by jobs. cell phones with touch screens and MP3 players existed long before that based on the way things are categorized by you. Timmy had the courage to release the iPhone 6, jobs never would have. Since you and I can get to jobs through the neverworld.:rolleyes:
lol, so you came late to the party just as people are beginning to head for the exits. It'll still be a fun party for you, for a while, until the room is 3/4 empty and the DJ has packed up and left. And you'll be one of the lonely stragglers, pleading with the remaining crowd to "Stick with it, things will pick up .. right???"
 
lol, so you came late to the party just as people are beginning to head for the exits. It'll still be a fun party for you, for a while, until the room is 3/4 empty and the DJ has packed up and left. And you'll be one of the lonely stragglers, pleading with the remaining crowd to "Stick with it, things will pick up .. right???"
The last Apple iPhone user turn off the light?
 
lol, so you came late to the party just as people are beginning to head for the exits. It'll still be a fun party for you, for a while, until the room is 3/4 empty and the DJ has packed up and left. And you'll be one of the lonely stragglers, pleading with the remaining crowd to "Stick with it, things will pick up .. right???"

This reminds me of Microsoft's staged funeral of the iPhone when they came out with Windows Phones. Look who buried who.

No matter what, Apple will always be doomed. And yet...
 
This reminds me of Microsoft's staged funeral of the iPhone when they came out with Windows Phones. Look who buried who.

No matter what, Apple will always be doomed. And yet...

And yet you seem to want to fall into the other fallacy, that what's going good now, will always go good. Just like the stock boom in 1998, and the housing boom in 2006. Hard to imagine things turning for the worse. But ... guess what ... at some point, they often do.
 
And yet you seem to want to fall into the other fallacy, that what's going good now, will always go good. Just like the stock boom in 1998, and the housing boom in 2006. Hard to imagine things turning for the worse. But ... guess what ... at some point, they often do.

Of course not.

If the Roman Empire fell, Charlemagne fell, Napoleon fell, Nokia fell, BB fell then Apple, Google, Microsoft, EVERYBODY will eventually fall one day. It's just that there is no smell of any of the above tumbling anytime soon (MS was apparently going slowly downhill but now seem to be pointing upwards), particularly 250b cash hoarder Apple. To eat through those reserves, they really had to seriously screw up during a significant period of time.
 
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Of course not.

If the Roman Empire fell, Charlemagne fell, Napoleon fell, Nokia fell, BB fell then Apple, Google, Microsoft, EVERYBODY will eventually fall one day. It's just that there is no smell of any of the above tumbling anytime soon (MS was apparently going slowly downhill but now seem to be pointing upwards), particularly 250b cash hoarder Apple. To eat through those reserves, they really had to seriously screw up during a significant period of time.

Well said. I just happen to think we are at a turning point with the publics view of Apple. And you mention BB, which is a chilling example, since the lighting speed they went from kings of the world, to virtually worthless, was stunning.
BB still had a ton of cash in the bank once we all knew they were dead in the water, so Apple's reserves really don't play into this discussion much, imo.
 
This reminds me of Microsoft's staged funeral of the iPhone when they came out with Windows Phones. Look who buried who.

No matter what, Apple will always be doomed. And yet...

That funeral was never gonna happen as Steve was still alive.Now,quite plausible.Tim Cook just one of those black suit CEOs.Apple should hire Elon Musk.He is more of a risk taker and innovater than Cook.He was on the money when he said Apple car would fail as well
 
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Projections that word conjures up "I don't really know". You really don't know how Apple views it and what their take on it is, given the market. It may have exceeded their internal projections.

Since you already know why Apple is not declaring sales and seemingly know apples market research better than them you must know they already have a solid product.

If you think the aw on its own is another Fitbit think a car without gas is just a hunk of metal. Put gas in the car or pair with the iPhone and it kills the competition,
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For the last time jobs was short sighted as he has shown. Period. Samsung might have mocked Apple, however look where they both are now. Using your logic the original iPod didn't really offer more than the competition. It played music. We're the headphones or clarity or playlists special? Similarly for the first iPhone, it made calls and did other things. The second iPhone made calls and did other things. The Samsung galaxy makes calls and does other things. When you distill it down like you did nobody is doing anything meaningful .:rolleyes:

I can't believe I couldn't disagree more with someone! I completely disagree with ALL your postings! ;)

On the side note... are you Tim or relative maybe?
 
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I can't believe I couldn't disagree more with someone! I completely disagree with ALL your postings! ;)

On the side note... are you Tim or relative maybe?
Noticed the other guy wasn't asked something similar wrt jobs. Wonder why?

But seriously seeing people disagree on every point is not a new phenomenon.
 
yeah hand pain from stretching finger to a phone that is too large for my hand. Is that so difficult to understand? What a dumb comment.

Yes dumb comment to another dumb consumer. You purchased a phone that is too large for your hands and now it's a problem. Let me guess, you purchase your clothes without trying them on and then complain that they're too tight.
 
Yes dumb comment to another dumb consumer. You purchased a phone that is too large for your hands and now it's a problem. Let me guess, you purchase your clothes without trying them on and then complain that they're too tight.
What choice was I given if I wanted the latest technology?? I'm not the only one guy.
 
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