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Given your current PM, the feeling is getting to be mutual. It is too bad people do not have a better grasp of history. You are describing the 1960s. Look up the term "The Ugly American". To me, nothing is new.
?? Who is my PM? And we are living in 2025, in the here and now. Trump and his cronies started this. The guy can't even remember his own deals.
 
Vietnam is now implementing tariffs on China. Vietnam has agreed to a trade deal with the United States. They are turning back Chinese made products that were being relabeled as being made in Vietnam. The BBC has reported this, and Vietnam will joint the WTO.
 
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Vietnam is now implementing tariffs on China. Vietnam has agreed to a trade deal with the United States. They are turning back Chinese made products that were being relabeled as being made in Vietnam. The BBC has reported this, and Vietnam will joint the WTO.
I think it’s time for you to include some links to back up the statements you are making. Definitely not on my front page with the BBC. And not when searching either.
 

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Given your current PM, the feeling is getting to be mutual. It is too bad people do not have a better grasp of history. You are describing the 1960s. Look up the term "The Ugly American". To me, nothing is new.

Really you’re comparing Starmer and DonVan. 😂
 
Given your current PM, the feeling is getting to be mutual. It is too bad people do not have a better grasp of history. You are describing the 1960s. Look up the term "The Ugly American". To me, nothing is new.
You talk about history, do they actually tech history in the US, some of the comments from your fellow countrymen suggest otherwise, my favourite has to be we are accused of stealing US place names for the UK!!!
bad mouthing even the French, who without their help America would probably not exist in its current form (probably no bad thing) did you even thank them? was you wearing a suit? so I suggest you dont mention history to Europeans
 
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You talk about history, do they actually tech history in the US, some of the comments from your fellow countrymen suggest otherwise, my favourite has to be we are accused of stealing US place names for the UK!!!
bad mouthing even the French, who without their help America would probably not exist in its current form (probably no bad thing) did you even thank them? was you wearing a suit? so I suggest you dont mention history to Europeans
Sadly, they don't, I once was a research Archivist at the University of Wyoming. I am an economic determinist. As for the history of Europe, I study the history of the British Isles, especially Romano-Britain, and the transitional period after the Roman Army pulled out in 410 AD till William the Conqueror in 1066. As for the History of Europe, I am mainly interested in the Holy Roman Empire (800 -1806). Especially the skullduggery it fostered between Britain and Scotland during the War of The Roses. It was officially dissolved in 1806 because of Napoleon. As for North America, the parts of my family were in New France in the late 17th Century. They migrated to Louisiana C.1750, becoming Cajuns. Most of the rest were Scottish Protestants who immigrated to New England because of the English Civil War, C.1650. My ancestors fought in the French and Indian War, the Revolutionary War, and the War of 1812, and on both sides during our Civil War.

It would be a waste of my time to mention history to most Europeans.

This current Tariff battle is fascinating to me. Until WW1, the Federal Government was mostly financed by Tariffs and port fees, starting in 1911, a 1% corporate excise tax. Tariffs are often used as an economic weapon. This was done during the Civil War against British Textiles. The UK was sympathetic to the South because it was a big source of cotton. The US was worried the Royal Navy would get involved.
 
You talk about history, do they actually tech history in the US, some of the comments from your fellow countrymen suggest otherwise,
We were taught...er...revisionist history.😑 They told us the Puritans fled England for religious freedom. Now I know y'all were glad to be rid of those Christian sharia.😔
my favourite has to be we are accused of stealing US place names for the UK!!!
That's backwards, innit? We're stealing UK names for US places: New York, New England, New Hampshire, and so on.
bad mouthing even the French, who without their help America would probably not exist in its current form (probably no bad thing)
Blame the French.😚 If not for them we would still be speaking English.😁
did you even thank them?
Well...we stole a name of their place to use for a US place: New Orleans.😙
 
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I used to get in so much trouble when I taught in High School. First I pissed of the other teachers because I refused to be called a social studies teacher, I was a historian and they were going to call me a history teacher.

Does a high school kid give a crap about European history? I taught local history. Cheyenne, Wyoming, and Wyoming in general have a very entertaining history. Since my family has been ranching in North West Wyoming since the 1870s, we were around for most of it. My Great Grandmother knew Buffalo Bill, was his Chuckwagon cook. She knew Calamity Jane. and Annie Oakley. The thing that got me into more trouble than anything else came from the Archive side. My teaching mantra is "It is better to know where to look it up than to know it." I taught my students how to use a textbook. There is a magical thing called a bibliography in the back of the book. Teachers would whine, "I wanted them to read the whole chapter."

You have to come from the moldy world of an Archive to appreciate what an iPhone or an iPad brings to you. I was very good at my job, but the mold gave me migraines, and I had to get out of it. In my hands is a device with worldwide knowledge. My Mantra is a perfect fit for these devices. Had they been around when I was teaching, I would have instructed my students how to get that knowledge out of them. That would have given the other teachers strokes.
 
The rest of the world, especially Eastern Asia and Africa, is just as tired of being ripped off by the Chinese as the US is, and are very anxious to become trade partners with the US. 195 countries are in talks right now. You can see this reported in several News YouTube channels from that region. The Democratic Republic of the Congo is a good example the Chinese have plundered its natural resources for decades. The Congo is a prime source of China's rare earth metals, timber, diamonds, etc. Félix Tshisekedi, President of the DRC, wants, China out, and the United States to take over the DRC's natural resources. The US plays fair.

China is being backed into a corner.
Good points. It’s a tough one.
 
SECSTATE Rubio has brokered a Declaration of Principles between the DRC and Rwanda. This is a conflict that China tacitly supported. It weakened the DRC government's control over areas of Congo that China was exploiting for raw materials. China imported its Chinese workforce to steal all of this stuff for the price of bribing area warlords. Chinese exploitation like this is happening all over Africa.
 
SECSTATE Rubio has brokered a Declaration of Principles between the DRC and Rwanda. This is a conflict that China tacitly supported. It weakened the DRC government's control over areas of Congo that China was exploiting for raw materials. China imported its Chinese workforce to steal all of this stuff for the price of bribing area warlords. Chinese exploitation like this is happening all over Africa.
It is not china’s fault that American companies decided to get china to start producing all there products decades ago & as a consequence of that this is why the west are now in this situation in regards to goods produced in that region
 
It is not china’s fault that American companies decided to get china to start producing all there products decades ago & as a consequence of that this is why the west are now in this situation in regards to goods produced in that region
Another wumaos. This is a long-term strategy that China has. China took advantage of the West for its goal to dominate the world's economy. China has done this by IP theft, currency manipulation, and gaming the WTO. Not China's fault, the CCP is laughing at you. 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤑🤑🤑
 
Another wumaos. This is a long-term strategy that China has. China took advantage of the West for its goal to dominate the world's economy. China has done this by IP theft, currency manipulation, and gaming the WTO. Not China's fault, the CCP is laughing at you. 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤑🤑🤑
Ok so did china force companies like Apple to make their products in china rather than some where else?

Ok if china has done IP theft then what electronic products have they done that with that they sell in the west?
 
If I wasn’t locked into the Apple ecosystem, I also would have switched or at least trialed another device. There are many superior phones in terms of hardware, and their software is really tuned to make the most of it. As a device on its own, non-Apple phones work really well.
Maybe you forget what the Apple ecosystem really consists of, things like Apple Support https://support.apple.com/
Apple Care, easy trade in support, I recently traded in an iPhone 13 Pro Max on a 16e the process was so simple. Take the provided QR Code to the Post Office, they pack and send the device for free. I got more than half the new price of the iPhone 16e as trade in. Then there's Apple Assist, the genius Bar and an iCloud storage system thats never been hacked.

I have tried two Samsung Galaxy's, a Windows phone and an Oppo none of them offer any of the above listed services with the possible exception of Samsung but even their customer support is limited. It took me two days on line to work out how to erase a Galaxy to factory settings because of it's circular Catch 22, outdated security system. With an iPhone it takes 3 steps and your Apple ID.

I recently tried to talk a person on another forum out of ditching his iPhone in favour of a ZTE Nubia Focus Pro 5G. Of all things. Sure it looks good with it's ESR looking camera but try getting after sales service on something like that. At least when you ring Apple Assist you get an English speaking operator and I don't mean ESL (English as a second language).

Last but not least de Googling an Andoid phone is still difficult, the software offerings of Samsung and Oppo were rubbish compared to Apple's and that's coming from someone who doesn't use Safari or Apple Mail.

All up; buy a Chinese or Indian Phone and you get Chinese or Indian service and support, need I say more.
 
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