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iPhone Shipments Suffered Double-Digit Drop Over Holiday Quarter, Says IDC

Hey, Tim Cook, you greedy scum, do you still think it was a good idea for the iPhone 14 to have the same processor as the previous year's iPhone 13?
 
ThomasJL said:
Hey, Tim Cook, you greedy scum, do you still think it was a good idea for the iPhone 14 to have the same processor as the previous year's iPhone 13?
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It's not the same processor and I'm very happy with the performance of my 14PM, it's a great phone and I'll thank TC for that.

Most average people don't care about the processor or internals.
 
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I7guy said:
It's not the same processor and I'm very happy with the performance of my 14PM, it's a great phone and I'll thank TC for that.

Most average people don't care about the processor or internals.
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It is the same processor that is in the iPhone 13 and iPhone 14: the A15.

You say you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max. The iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max have the new A16 processor, but the non-Pro iPhone 14 has the old A15 processor, which is the same processor in the iPhone 13.

Saying that “Most average people don't care about the processor or internals” excuses Tim Cook from his unethical practices, which reached an unprecedented new low when an iPhone update didn’t even update the processor.
 
ThomasJL said:
It is the same processor that is in the iPhone 13 and iPhone 14: the A15.
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No it's not. Similar, but not the same.
ThomasJL said:
You say you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max. The iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max have the new A16 processor, but the non-Pro iPhone 14 has the old A15 processor, which is the same processor in the iPhone 13.
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Sounds like semantics then. Yes, I have the PM.
ThomasJL said:
Saying that “Most average people don't care about the processor or internals” excuses Tim Cook from his unethical practices, which reached an unprecedented new low when an iPhone update didn’t even update the processor.
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There are no unethical practices. There is an objective list of differences between the iphone 14 and iphone 13 and the 13PM and the 14PM. It's up to the buyer to evaluate the product to see if it suits their requirements. Just like cars, not every model year gets an updated engine. Is that unethical by the auto manufacturers as well?
 
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goobot said:
These layoffs are gana start a downward spiral. These people are gana be forced to cut back which in return will create even softer sales. These companies are gana push us into a recession in the name of short term profit
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When you have a management culture that is rewarded by quarter results and not decade results, you get short term thinking.
 
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goobot said:
These layoffs are gana start a downward spiral. These people are gana be forced to cut back which in return will create even softer sales. These companies are gana push us into a recession in the name of short term profit
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What people do on a different scale. People cut back where necessary when times are tough.
 
Unggoy Murderer said:
You can still buy the 13 mini from Apple if you want one.

I have a friend who works in a pretty busy high street phone shop and he's said the 12 and 13 mini models were easily their least popular iPhones in terms of handset sales and contracts.
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Oh, well if your friend said it, it must be true!
 
sam_dean said:
I hope it is mostly attributed to the iPhone mini.

Edit: Odds are China's hard COVID lockdown disrupted supply chains that led to bad sales. Does not help that inflation's messing up user's other expenses. Take the opportunity to buy $AAPL on the dip.
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Buy the dip is the last thing I’d do in the world we live in today when it is very likely all the superpowers will turn Africa into a war zone within the next few years. They are already dividing it among themselves, money laundering crypto influencers are buying politicians to align them with China, mercenary groups like Wagner are becoming entrenched. South Africa and India are aligning with dirty Russian oligarch money.

These activities will make rare Earth metals even harder to get for manufacturers. This could all have been prevented if the US wasn’t distracted by in-fighting and short sighted greed.
 
DownUnderDan said:
When you have a management culture that is rewarded by quarter results and not decade results, you get short term thinking.
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An ironic condemnation, seeing that people here are criticising Apple for a seemingly lacklustre quarter out of what - a decade of excellence?
 
Abazigal said:
An ironic condemnation, seeing that people here are criticising Apple for a seemingly lacklustre quarter out of what - a decade of excellence?
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The market always overacts to quarterly earnings reports. But a bad quarter here or there when the market as a whole is doing poorly, doesn't refute the original posted comment, which I think is not really about market performance at all and more about how the modern Apple under Tim Cook is shortsighted and risk averse. And as he said, that seems to be the culture at Apple. Why take a chance on something truly visionary and long term, and as a consequence higher risk, when we can just continue maximining quarterly revenue by milking existing product lines with minimal, incremental upgrades. You'd think that Apple is big enough to be able to do both of these things at the same time, but alas, the last decade says otherwise. The only new product Apple came out with in over a decade where Steve Jobs wasn't involved on some level is the HomePod.
 
Odds are it isn't a demand issue. More like a supply issue. China's hard COVID lockdown really did a number.
 
rileyes said:
The market always overacts to quarterly earnings reports. But a bad quarter here or there when the market as a whole is doing poorly, doesn't refute the original posted comment, which I think is not really about market performance at all and more about how the modern Apple under Tim Cook is shortsighted and risk averse. And as he said, that seems to be the culture at Apple. Why take a chance on something truly visionary and long term, and as a consequence higher risk, when we can just continue maximining quarterly revenue by milking existing product lines with minimal, incremental upgrades. You'd think that Apple is big enough to be able to do both of these things at the same time, but alas, the last decade says otherwise. The only new product Apple came out with in over a decade where Steve Jobs wasn't involved on some level is the HomePod.
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Is it being shortsighted and risk averse to not jump on the bandwagon and do what other tech companies are doing when their efforts so far have crashed and burned? To date, Apple is the only tech giant who hasn’t conducted mass layoffs, or have a graveyard of canned projects. Maybe it’s not fear that keeps Apple from “innovating” but wisdom.
 
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