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iPhone Tethering and MMS Hacks Surface

I pay for "Unlimited Data" with the "5GB soft cap"...

As long as I stay under the "soft cap", why do they care whether I look at a web page on my iPhone or on my laptop?


I've tethered with EDGE with my Nokia E50 phone and no one came to arrest me.
 
Such trouble just for tethering. My LG Viewty doesn't have apps, but it tethers like a mofo, USB or Bluetooth. I'm on O2 and my data plan means I can never go over 98p a day. Of course I only use it for maybe half an hour a day, usually less.
 
topmounter said:
I pay for "Unlimited Data" with the "5GB soft cap"...

As long as I stay under the "soft cap", why do they care whether I look at a web page on my iPhone or on my laptop?


I've tethered with EDGE with my Nokia E50 phone and no one came to arrest me.
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Don't get me wrong, I completely agree - your logic is sound... However, AT&T has sold a crapload of unlimited plans assuming the average user would never hit those caps... I certainly don't... So for now, the network can handle it... But if alot of people just casually started tethering then the network as a whole would suffer for it... The extra cost on top is more to deter people from wanting to tether... I don't think 3G was really designed for that kind of use.
 
If ATT can't get it together enough to offer legit tethering and MMS on the iPhone...

...what on earth makes you think they have it together enough to do deep-packet inspection and "bust" people who hacked their **** to get the service they SHOULD ALREADY BE GETTING?

I'm doing this. And I'm not doing it out of necessity. I'm doing it to stick it to the man. SUCK IT, ATT. :p
 
Enuratique said:
Don't get me wrong, I completely agree - your logic is sound... However, AT&T has sold a crapload of unlimited plans assuming the average user would never hit those caps... I certainly don't... So for now, the network can handle it... But if alot of people just casually started tethering then the network as a whole would suffer for it... The extra cost on top is more to deter people from wanting to tether... I don't think 3G was really designed for that kind of use.
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So then when can we expect the infrastructure to improve to the point where your concerns are moot? I suspect that day may NEVER come, because there is no profit in a truly unlimited pricing plan, is there? Just ask AOL.
 
Enuratique said:
*snip*.. I don't think 3G was really designed for that kind of use.
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So why are there hundreds of 3G dongles on the market then?

even if 02 said £5 a month to tether or a £7.50 bolt on, I would agree and pay it. £15 is just greedy and completely unfair to their customers
 
Stargaze said:
[seeing as this post has been hijacked by MMS]

Why do you need MMS on a phone that has full access to the internet??

i dont understand this overall cry for hte ability to text message someone a picture that i can email them
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Because emailing is a pain in the ass. Not everyone has a smart phone to view their email with.

And even if they did, I want to be able to use 1 code (the person's phone number) to send texts, make calls, and send multimedia. I don't feel like collecting every single one of my friends' email addresses.

In the younger generation, email has already become obsolete, except for business.
 
ick

If I were ATT I would sue Macrumors.

I'm sorry to see this move from a serious website to this kiddie hackorz garbage on the front page.

Stealing is wrong.

Your parents brought you up wrong.
 
Stargaze said:
[seeing as this post has been hijacked by MMS]

Why do you need MMS on a phone that has full access to the internet??

i dont understand this overall cry for hte ability to text message someone a picture that i can email them
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Well, you don't have a strong need for it for the iPhone per se, but it's nice because of OTHER cellphone users. To take myself as an example. I have one friend who can only send her cellphone pictures via MMS (she sends them to me to Photoshop them). She's not technologically naive or anything, she just has an inexpensive phone and that's how it works. I use MMSbuddy as a workaround for now, but receiving her messages will be much easier when MMS goes live.
 
jointsmoking said:
If I were ATT I would sue Macrumors.

I'm sorry to see this move from a serious website to this kiddie hackorz garbage on the front page.

Stealing is wrong.

Your parents brought you up wrong.
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If ATT is giving Text plan members free MMS when they get their act together, how exactly is this stealing?

Do you even have an iPhone?
 
jointsmoking said:
If I were ATT I would sue Macrumors.

I'm sorry to see this move from a serious website to this kiddie hackorz garbage on the front page.

Stealing is wrong.

Your parents brought you up wrong.
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Yea, I'm really gonna listen to someone named "jointsmoking" about legal matters...
 
jointsmoking said:
If I were ATT I would sue Macrumors.

I'm sorry to see this move from a serious website to this kiddie hackorz garbage on the front page.

Stealing is wrong.

Your parents brought you up wrong.
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If you think "just obey" is the right kind of philosophy to be brought up on, that's YOUR parents' shortcoming, not mine.

I was raised to believe I shouldn't follow rules that are not right, and that I have the power to make those decisions myself. Sometimes there are consequences involved, and I'm well aware of that fact.

ATT is taking advantage of a large and loyal customer base, FORCED into loyalty by immoral exclusivity deals. This is not free market. This is BS, and they're gonna have to deal with the consequences of that.
 
knewsom said:
If you think "just obey" is the right kind of philosophy to be brought up on, that's YOUR shortcoming, not mine.

I was raised to believe I shouldn't follow rules that are not right, and that I have the power to make those decisions myself. Sometimes there are consequences involved, and I'm well aware of that fact.

ATT is taking advantage of a large and loyal customer base, FORCED into loyalty by immoral exclusivity deals. This is not free market. This is BS, and they're gonna have to deal with the consequences of that.
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WOOOOOO! REBEL! EVERYBODY!

As soon as I find another ATT phone, I'm going to enable MMS on my iPhone.
 
knewsom said:
If you think "just obey" is the right kind of philosophy to be brought up on, that's YOUR shortcoming, not mine.

I was raised to believe I shouldn't follow rules that are not right, .
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STEALING IS WRONG. PERIOD. you might think the rules are wrong, but it's not your bandwidth.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
Oh they will and they rightful should. Tethering uses a lot more data than just the iPhone.

As for picking it up. it is not that hard when they start watching the usage or how often the data is requested. Every person they catch will make it easier for them to catch more.

People want something for nothing. As for cost the best argument I have is look to what those data cards cost to us a month. Then the tethering seems to fall more in line.
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something for nothing? they are already paying for an unlimited data plan. Using your phone to send and receive data is not "something for nothing".

I kind of see your point, but the REAL point is that ATT needs to sell it for what it is: cell phone internet only. Selling as unlimited data is disingenious. An MMS is also data.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
On thing that should be pointed out that people are COMPLETELY pass over is ATT cost JUST for the data card is $60.
Why should the data for tethering be any less than the cost for the data card.

I have yet to see some one even attempt to debate that topic. ATT is viewing the tethering as just using the phone as a data card. ATT is in the right. Not the other way around.
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We pay $199 (or $299, or $99, whatever) for the iphone, that IS our data card. so that part doesn't matter.
 
Even if the carriers are able to notice tethering over regular iPhone internet usage, I will just turn around and say I'm using NetShare, which I downloaded legitimately.

Therefore, I think we will have to see Stevey boy push the big red 'App Kill' button before the carriers can become hostile against people using unauthorised tethering.

I also reckon it will be a similar amount of people who use the tethering hack method as those who have been using NetShare or similar methods, meaning it's not enough of a problem for the carriers to kick up a media sandstorm over.

I think we're safe for now.
 
vrillusions said:
We pay $199 (or $299, or $99, whatever) for the iphone, that IS our data card. so that part doesn't matter.
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Read it again.

Use a data card on ATT network cost $60 a month. That is not for voice just for data.

The data card and an Iphone Tethered are basicly the same thing. So why should the monthly cost for a tethering part of the iPhone being any less than the data card month cost.
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