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Iphone to move to Verizon
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Yes, I'm the one that makes that argument.
How will it screw with their profits? Opening up the iPhone to the largest cell carrier in the US? Yea, that seems like an AWFUL business move.
Child, you don't understand the first thing about bulk manufacturing. Verizon's maximum potential market? 304 million people.
Any GSM iPhone? 7 billion. END OF STORY.
Which is why Apple didn't agree to their terms.
I am so glad that I didn't switch to AT&T and sign that 2-year contract for iPhone.
I had the iPhone fever for one full month and I was going to get it no matter what. However, at the last minute, I decided to stay with Verizon at a low month-to-month rate and buy an iPod Touch instead of an iPhone with A&T.
It really did the trick for me. Now, I have an access to all the great Apple apps for almost free, and I can wait for my new favorite smartphone HTC Hero coming to US at the end of year. That way, I can experience both world although people here would tell me I don't know what I am missing by not having an iPhone.
I had the iPhone fever for one full month and I was going to get it no matter what. However, at the last minute, I decided to stay with Verizon at a low month-to-month rate and buy an iPod Touch instead of an iPhone with A&T.
It really did the trick for me. Now, I have an access to all the great Apple apps for almost free, and I can wait for my new favorite smartphone HTC Hero coming to US at the end of year. That way, I can experience both world although people here would tell me I don't know what I am missing by not having an iPhone.
the HTC Hero doesn't hold a candle to the iPhone. Any other device simply doesn't / can't compair. My GF used the G1 for 6 months before we ported her over to iPhone.
Verizon missed the boat not partnering with apple. I think it was just a corporate ego match, and verizon didn't realize that apple was the one wearing the pants in the relationship.
As a jersey resident, and heavily traveled guy, I miss verizon 'bars' , but I'm happy with the device so much that I don't ever look back. I will go back to VZW if it ever happens.
That being said, no one can dispute, the iPhone simply saved AT&T.
Verizon missed the boat not partnering with apple. I think it was just a corporate ego match, and verizon didn't realize that apple was the one wearing the pants in the relationship.
As a jersey resident, and heavily traveled guy, I miss verizon 'bars' , but I'm happy with the device so much that I don't ever look back. I will go back to VZW if it ever happens.
That being said, no one can dispute, the iPhone simply saved AT&T.
Seriously, everyone on the planet? Why are you counting billions of babies and children as potential customers ? Not to mention a lot of the world's GSM countries have no 3G coverage, or spare income for a data plan or home computer.
If you're going to tout potential iPhone GSM world market, here's a better idea: add up the actual GSM cellphone customers in the countries that Apple sells to. Thanks.
In any case, this discussion is about making an iPhone for the majority of the USA market which is CDMA based, has the money to buy one, and the infrastructure to support it.
You mean, Verizon wouldn't agree to their terms, for a phone which didn't exist at the time, and which sounded crippled. Apple wanted Verizon to sell a non-GPS, non-3G smartphone, with no third party apps, all ringtones/etc available via only Apple, and no phone sales through Verizon's partners. Plus they wouldn't allow Verizon to subsidize the inital phone, and they wanted to force all customers into a data plan, something Verizon didn't do at the time.
No wonder Verizon politely said no over a year's attempts by Apple to get them to carry it.
That tells how desperate AT&T was back then. AT&T(Cingular) was really pathetic before iPhone.
Just because Verizon is using LTE doesn't mean the iPhone will come to them. LTE is a data-only standard, most of the carriers and companies commited to LTE are working on a VoIP standard for calls, but as of now, carriers will be using GSM/UMTS or CDMA for voice calls. Verizon could elect to use CDMA for voice and LTE for data, like they do with CDMA for voice and EVDO for data. In that case a dual or tri mode GSM/UMTS/LTE iPhone would only be partly compatible with Verizon.
Namely the U.S.
So 304 million to 1,635,264,326.
That's adding up the population of every country in which the iPhone is offered and dividing by half (to get rid of the children that you don't think can have iPhones), taking into account the wealth of India and the African nations, as well.
That tells how desperate AT&T was back then. AT&T(Cingular) was really pathetic before iPhone.
correction: it still is.
The difference is that all of us iPhone users are pathetic too. We stick to AT&T which sux
Cool. Let's go with that latter number. (You'll be glad you didn't keep 7 billion, btw.)
The following calcs are semi-rough, but even if you manipulate them hugely, the outcome is basically the same. I'm even going to lean pretty far in your favor.
Let's say ~20 million iPhones sold. Of those, ~13 million sold overseas. So...
13/1560 = only 0.8% of all those non-USA potential buyers actually got an iPhone.
7 / 75 = 9.3% of USA potential buyers really did get an iPhone.
So a good guess is that around 9% of Sprint and Verizon customers would also buy one, which is 12 million... or about the same as overseas sales. In other words, CDMA could easily end up being about a third of world sales, which is nothing to sneeze at.