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iPhone Upgrade Program Temporarily Unavailable at Apple Stores in England Due to Lockdown Restrictions

Tories or Labour have zero relevance with the topic. There is a lockdown and a pandemic, apple and Barclays should have found some agreement on how to avoid unnecessary travel or store visits. If Barclays can’t accept any alternative, Apple should stop using Barclays moving forward. Personally I will just pay off my loan and quit the iPhone upgrade programme, as it didn’t respect the promise of allowing an upgrade after 11 months, and I will not be getting iPhone 12 as I don’t think Apple deserves a sale considering how badly they handled this issue.
 
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Because this is Britain, where everything is much more complicated than it needs to be, for no reason other than being complicated.
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Well that's not really fair is it. Don't they still use cheques and sign for debit/credit card transactions in America while we've been using contactless for yonks here?
 
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User 6502 said:
Tories or Labour have zero relevance with the topic. There is a lockdown and a pandemic, apple and Barclays should have found some agreement on how to avoid unnecessary travel or store visits. If Barclays can’t accept any alternative, Apple should stop using Barclays moving forward. Personally I will just pay off my loan and quit the iPhone upgrade programme, as it didn’t respect the promise of allowing an upgrade after 11 months, and I will not be getting iPhone 12 as I don’t think Apple deserves a sale considering how badly they handled this issue.
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Yeah they screwed it up
 
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*sigh* People are frightened of lockdowns, and pushing against mask requirements, but then the virus does what viruses do: Infect people.

If the UK, and America had dealt with the pandemic as adults, they could be like New Zealand and Australia. Both have been able to control the pandemic, and reduce the deaths among their citizenry. It's a crying shame that the elections are so close in this country. Let's reelect the person that has allowed far too many Americans to die. Insanity. And now armed groups are demanding that the counting of votes be stopped. Armed groups demanding that one of the tenants of American Democracy be trashed, drowned in the swamp...
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Comparing island nations with a fraction of the population is pretty silly.
 
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Kylo83 said:
this is a scam its not fair the whole idea for the plan is to get a new phone each year and not pay full, now ive payed much more than I needed to and cant even get it soon, so will end up paying 4 extra months and to clean the balance its only £460 I can sell the handset private for more
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Nothing is a stopping you from doing this.
 
mazz0 said:
OK, I'm not arguing that the UK's pandemic response has been good, but you can't really say that the differences in infection rates are necessarily due to how it has been handled (or to what extent they are). There are many other factors. For example, the UK has a population density 16 times higher than New Zealand, and 91 times higher than Australia, according to a quick Google I just did.
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Not sure population density actually has much to do with spread...in the US, for example, the biggest rise in cases is in the Dakotas, which are about as rural as they come. Cities tend to get infections first, but don't necessarily have the greatest spread. For something like Covid, infections are linked to indoor spaces with poor ventilation...so subway platforms would probably be bad, but not city streets or large buildings. (One source from a quick Google search)

Obviously NZ and Aus are particular cases, but I think it has a lot to do with strict border controls and quick action by public officials.
 
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Comparing island nations with a fraction of the population is pretty silly.
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Only to a point. The UK is also an island nation, but at the height of the first wave, they were still waving anyone from anywhere through Heathrow arrivals with no checks whatsoever. Meanwhile, Australia and NZ fared so much better primarily because they locked down all flights, which had a massive dampening impact on initial infection rates, which were then contained by internal measures.

Even with today’s lockdown (which has been implemented in England only, with Scotland, Wales and NI doing their own thing), it’s too little too late, a half-arsed measure forced upon them when regional spikes became untenable, and which significant numbers of the populace won’t adhere to, not least because they all saw the farcical hypocrisy of unelected puppetmaster and policymaker Cummings’ selfish behaviour back in the spring.

Brexit and COVID, the country is a mess, and frankly anyone moaning about a few weeks’ delay to their iPhone upgrade program (for those who wanted the biggest and smallest models, not the two inbetween last month) really ought to reassess their priorities.
 
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Veinticinco said:
Only to a point. The UK is also an island nation, but at the height of the first wave, they were still waving anyone from anywhere through Heathrow arrivals with no checks whatsoever. Meanwhile, Australia and NZ fared so much better primarily because they locked down all flights, which had a massive dampening impact on initial infection rates, which were then contained by internal measures.

Even with today’s lockdown (which has been implemented in England only, with Scotland, Wales and NI doing their own thing), it’s too little too late, a half-arsed measure forced upon them when regional spikes became untenable, and which significant numbers of the populace won’t adhere to, not least because they all saw the farcical hypocrisy of unelected puppetmaster and policymaker Cummings’ selfish behaviour back in the spring.

Brexit and COVID, the country is a mess, and frankly anyone moaning about a few weeks’ delay to their iPhone upgrade program (for those who wanted the biggest and smallest models, not the two inbetween last month) really ought to reassess their priorities.
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Don't try to reason with the red hats, you're wasting your time.

 
jarman92 said:
I don't live in the UK so I don't have skin in the game, but how can you say Boris is doing "better than Labour" if Labour hasn't been in power for like 10 years?
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Just look how the Welsh Labour government dealt with their lockdown. Stopping people from buying “non essential” things in supermarkets such as baby clothes etc. They were even stopping people buying women’s sanitary products until people kicked up a stink. No one has dealt with it perfectly and it’s so easy to point things out in hindsight.
 
Kylo83 said:
also I spoke with apple today on the phone and they said I will still be able to make appointment for the upgrade plan in store so dont understand why this says otherwise
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So you’re saying you’ve spoken to Apple and this report is incorrect?
 
Hoyboy said:
Just look how the Welsh Labour government dealt with their lockdown. Stopping people from buying “non essential” things in supermarkets such as baby clothes etc. They were even stopping people buying women’s sanitary products until people kicked up a stink. No one has dealt with it perfectly and it’s so easy to point things out in hindsight.
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Didn't you know, covid is attracted to baby clothes and women's sanitary products. It's a very smart virus. Here in Ohio they stop serving alcohol at 10 PM but let you stay in and order food.. because the virus is also attracted to alcohol.
 
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Hoyboy said:
Just look how the Welsh Labour government dealt with their lockdown. Stopping people from buying “non essential” things in supermarkets such as baby clothes etc. They were even stopping people buying women’s sanitary products until people kicked up a stink. No one has dealt with it perfectly and it’s so easy to point things out in hindsight.
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It’s also relatively easy to point things out with foresight, by using evidence and expertise. Like, say, recommending a two week lockdown in September so we don’t have have to lock down for four weeks in November once deaths are at the same peak as the spring.

But they didn’t do that, because they’re idiots.
 
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It’s also relatively easy to point things out with foresight, by using evidence and expertise. Like, say, recommending a two week lockdown in September so we don’t have have to lock down for four weeks in November once deaths are at the same peak as the spring.

But they didn’t do that, because they’re idiots.
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We did not need a lockdown then, and we do not need one now. There are no excess deaths , look at the Office for National Statistics if you don't believe me. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...andandwalesprovisional/weekending9october2020

The model used to justify the lockdown on Saturday was debunked on Sunday by other scientists and proved wrong by Wednesday as their model said we would have 1000 deaths a day in England linked to COVID we had 250.

Yet Labour keep pushing hard for lockdown? Its insane we are having one, its wrecking peoples jobs, there will be no life worth living soon, because for some reason only COVID deaths matter now, no other ones.
 
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MrGimper said:
So you’re saying you’ve spoken to Apple and this report is incorrect?
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I spoke to Apple and was told they aren’t offering iUP, at least for the next month. He didn’t have a clue what’s happening after that.
 
sterumbelow said:
I spoke to Apple and was told they aren’t offering iUP, at least for the next month. He didn’t have a clue what’s happening after that.
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A month lockdown does not seem to be enough time to tell if that helped reduce the death rate.

Due to long incubation periods, it would take longer than a month tell if you were able to "flatten the curve".

Probably will last longer than a month in the UK...
 
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Veinticinco said:
Only to a point. The UK is also an island nation, but at the height of the first wave, they were still waving anyone from anywhere through Heathrow arrivals with no checks whatsoever. Meanwhile, Australia and NZ fared so much better primarily because they locked down all flights, which had a massive dampening impact on initial infection rates, which were then contained by internal measures.

Even with today’s lockdown (which has been implemented in England only, with Scotland, Wales and NI doing their own thing), it’s too little too late, a half-arsed measure forced upon them when regional spikes became untenable, and which significant numbers of the populace won’t adhere to, not least because they all saw the farcical hypocrisy of unelected puppetmaster and policymaker Cummings’ selfish behaviour back in the spring.

Brexit and COVID, the country is a mess, and frankly anyone moaning about a few weeks’ delay to their iPhone upgrade program (for those who wanted the biggest and smallest models, not the two inbetween last month) really ought to reassess their priorities.
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US population 320m, UK population 66m, AUS population 24m, NZ population 5m. You cannot compare island nations with low populations to places that have quadruple the amount of people. The UK is much easier to access by all of it's neighboring countries than Australia is to any of its neighbors. You can compare cases per capita as that's an accurate measurement.
 
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